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Can someone help me out with why the boy’s bunk beds in Randy/Brad’s original bedroom don’t have any bedding? They have pillows, but no sheets or quilts. I’m doing a rewatch and it’s bugging me. Do we ever see a scene in that room where the boys are actually in bed instead of just lying on one? There’s bedding on Brad’s single bed when he has his own room, and on the bed in Randy’s basement room, but none that I can see on the built in bunks.

I get the time period was different, but even with that, especially in the early seasons Mary didn’t seem to do any actual ‘producer’ type work, she just functioned as Lou’s assistant. Her refusal to call him anything but Mr Grant also grates. She’s far to deferential. I thought Rhoda had the better job to be honest. And it apparently paid better as well.

Can anyone help me out here? I’ve been doing a rewatch and Rhoda’s apartment is driving me crazy, where is the bathroom? Why does she have everything crammed into the main room but doesn’t seem to use the ante room for anything? Why isn’t the bed up on the platform? It’s just such a badly designed space. And for all that everyone says Mary’s job was revolutionary in tv, I thought she had a weird hybrid job where she was supposed to be the associate producer, but Lou treats her as his secretary, getting him coffee, shopping for his wife, even as late as season 5 he has her looking for a plumber for him. I doubt very much he’d have treated a guy in that job the same way. And she never complained about having to do his crap.

I just wish they’d categorically state what is and isn’t canon. Jackie was heavily pregnant while owning the Lunchbox, yet no mention of Andy. Leon bought Bev’s share, yet somehow she owns the building. The whole reboot premise is built on the idea that fans of the old show want to see these characters again, yet they ignore the fact that at least 90% of the people currently watching used to watch the original and know the characters and what happened. Drives me nuts.

EW interview with Leah about the end of the series. Can’t wait to see what stage 2 involves. Hope it’s epic.

I just love how much she is not having any of their bullshit. I wish the media would jump on this more. Every time one of these CO$ asshats is in a show and does press the media should be asking Scientology questions. I’m avoiding shows/movies/etc that have any Scientologist in them, no matter what. I don’t want to be a party to making DM and his phoneys any more money. Unfortunately, the world at large doesn’t care that Tom Cruise is the pseudo head of an organisation that continues to wreck people’s lives.

And now Leah’s calling out Elizabeth Moss, Kirstie Alley and Giovanni Ribissi. Leah Remini Sounds off on Hypocrisy of Elizabeth Moss She’s totally right, I can’t stand how much the media cow tow to EM as though she’s some kind of righteous feminist while she belongs to a piece of shit cult. I’m totally dreading the sycophantic crap we’ll have to put up with when Tom Cruise goes on tour to promote Top Gun 2. Meanwhile, Leah continues to be the best kind of badass. I could not love her more.

According to this, it’s done. Aftermath to end with two hr special Leah essentially says they’re going after them in a different way.

And in more good news. Danny Masterson and CO$ sued by four women

Yeah, Norma was a piece of work. Especially against Lamont’s steadfast goodness. I found all of the cults horrible, especially the ones that involved sexual abuse against children, but that wack-a-doodle cult with the weddings and guns was something to see. The best episodes were where they spoke to the groups of survivors. I found it fascinating how each of them seemed relieved to find the connections in the other cults and realise that though their backgrounds differed, they all had experienced similar things. A lot of relief about having other people understand what they’d been through, which is understandable. I also loved how many of them were trying to help others adjust to being on the outside. So the FLDS and NXIUM have had legal victories, let’s hope the others get theirs soon.

That’s awesome. I hope he runs and wins. Surely that’d make Dave’s head explode.

I get what they were trying to do but that could have been accomplished without revealing quite so many details. And it makes me wonder why even bother going with a Jane Doe pseudonym if you then reveal those items in the suit and make it simple to identify her. Maybe as you say, it’s some legal manoeuvre, you’d think the CO$ would be smart and lay off fair game for this suit, but I’m kinda hoping they don’t, just so it’s easier to bring them down.

Wow, the next thing her lawyers should do is sue the Tampa Bay Times. The ridiculous level of detail they gave about her made it completely obvious who she is, even though they refer to her as Jane Doe and say it’s for her safety. How stupid is that reporter? I knew who they were talking about before I was halfway through the article, and then they provided exact details of her involvement with Aftermath and Leah just to drive the point home. Although if they do come after her for the lawsuit it would just prove her point. Still though. Don’t reporters have any level of duty of care?

I didn’t realise someone had actually filed. Let’s hope everyone who has been on the show piles on and adds some weight. These guys are despicable and deserve to get everything they have coming to them. One also has to imagine that these lawyers will now be fair gamed as per the CO$ rules and should be able to add their own evidence to the trial documents.

Not sure if I can post this because it’s not about Aftermath specifically but if they can get this guy (and his lackies) for racketeering why can’t they go after CO$ the same way? We already know there’s a ton of victims who’ve spoken up, so frustrating that nothing happens. Keith Raniere of NXIVM found guilty

I found this season to be a chore, so was about 10 eps behind and then had to binge them. I did myself no favours with this plan, because watching that many episodes in a row was not fun. I’m not going to bother commenting on anything that went before the two part finale because it’s not worth it, but I found the first part of the finale to be better than the last part. The actual last episode was terrible. I found Sheldon’s speech cringe-worthy, not because of what he said but where he said it. By no means did I find that a believable scenario. And having each of the friends stand up was a **crickets** moment, not helped by the dead silence in that scene. Seriously, if someone did that at the Oscars they’d be roasted on social media. For mine, it would have been better for them to finish the show in Leonard and Penny’s living room with Sheldon giving the same speech and then giving his friends tickets to join him and Amy in Switzerland as a thank you for all they’d done. The end. There is also no universe in which I believe that Mary (and also Georgie and Missy) wouldn’t have attended that ceremony. Ending the show with the idea of them all heading off to watch the award ceremony rather than subjecting us to it would have also negated that ridiculousness. They should have ended the show last season with Amy and Sheldon’s wedding.

Maybe it’s because I’ve spent so much time watching Leah Remini’s Scientology series, but I find this series frustrating because it barely touches the surface of the issues with these cults/religions. You could easily devote a season to each one. I also don’t find Elizabeth Vargas very... compassionate. There’s just something about her that irritates me, but I can’t put my finger on it. I’ve found the main cult survivors to be compelling in pretty much all of the episodes. Especially Amy, Elijah and Teddy. The things that happened to these people, but especially the kids are just awful Haven’t seen even the last two episodes yet. I’ve been bingeing these and watched them out of order so the JW one was last one I watched. For some reason I just couldn’t connect as much to Romy in the JW episode. Her story was tragic but I found the whole ‘delivering the letter’ thing to be a bit dramatic. The Scientology episode on JW’s affected me more.

How Tom Cruise’s kids are rock stars in the Scientology World Kidman and Cruise’s kids step up in Scientology Not surprising but still sad, Katie did the right thing getting Suri the hell out of there.

Agree, I don’t get this at all, if there’s some legal reason they can’t show it then just tell us that. Otherwise they’re also guilty of pandering to the Co$ which makes a mockery of the show.

This is what I don’t get, I can see that keeping them in maybe 10 years ago, but nobody would give a crap now. Especially since everyone already thinks they’re gay/bi anyhow. I think TC likes the attention, he certainly seems to lap it up. Not sure what they have on Travolta, but I have to assume it’s more than just being gay/bi.

Here’s another article about the 60 Minutes interview. 60 Minutes Shelley Miscavage This just proves how dumb Co$ and Miscavage are, all they need to do is clean Shelley up and then plunk her in front of a camera to dispute this stuff but instead the let it be a big mystery. I loved how Leah said “Sue us, we welcome the lawsuit” she’s such a badass. 😁👍

I don’t watch I’m a Celeb, but this was in the paper today. Interesting take on CO$ from someone who’s never been in it. Katherine Kelly Lang talks Scientology KKL second article

I live for this day. Surely somehow, at some point, Miscavage and/or one of his top goons will be deposed and the light will shine on the filth they are.

This above all else is what makes me believe pretty much everything that anyone who’s been on the show has said. If it was untrue, the CoS would surely take great delight in dragging these people into court, but they take no action other than sending ridiculous letters, setting up stupid websites, and dragging out the same tired lines about all detractors. One can only assume it’s because they know if they sue, then they will also be deposed in order to prove that their detractors are lying, and they do not want that. I do have to say though, when Leah said ‘we have someone new who escaped’ I had this feeling of hope and then that blond chick came on and I groaned. I didn’t believe her in her episode, and after the genuine misery of the other contributors, she seemed too sort of gleeful about her knowledge. She’s seems so fake, I don’t believe her at all and I wish their ‘new person’ was more credible.

When I first saw who was going to be on this I thought it was just going to be another recap episode, but the info about Gold Base and the frustration these guys feel at having to tell their stories over and over with no one doing anything was heartbreaking. To sit with the FBI and think they were finally going to do something, for the FBI to have done an investigation in 2009 and yet nothing has changed in 2019, I don’t even know how these guys keep going. When Clare said they do it in the hope that they can save their friends and family even if they then hate them, and then watching them all break down, I gotta say, I was teary too. The sacrifices made by these people are huge, and I hope the justice finally served on Miscavage and his goons is many times greater.