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@cocobeans I totally cried too!

I was so impressed by that comment from Nick. I have to say he is actually having meaty conversations with these women that we have not heard from Bachelors past. And his ability to roll with that DolphinShark convo was pretty endearing too. A blog I read compared Vanessa to the actress Nancy Travis and now I can't unsee it!

The farm they went to was in Omro, my friend said it's right down the street from her house! It's about an hour and a half from Milwaukee. Waukesha looked pretty beautiful. Whitney and Astrid were sitting next to eachother and looked like twins! I haven't heard Whitney say a peep and actually thought her name was Lindsay until coming here. How does one develop a Nick Cage phobia? Was it the accent from "Con Air"? I was very bored by this episode because it was all Corrine and I could really care less. How boring must the rest be if they have to focus so much on her? Also I would like a Nickerdoodle.

Cherry Coke Zero! What was with the soccer cards on the table when the Cardinal first came in? Then they weren't there, just the book he wrote? And then Sister Mary, who just arrived minutes before, knew to come take the book and replace it with the red bag of cigarettes? The parallels to the US right now make me a little queasy. I'm enjoying the scenery--the Pieta was one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen in my life.

Thanks for bringing up the floral skinny tie.... yikes. I think I would break up with someone for using "planned dancing" because they did not know the word choreography. When the girls talked about having Backstreet Boys on their binders I felt very old. That was a pretty good get Bachelor-wise. And Danielle did definitely stand out, she is crazy hot. I totally heard Atlanta and as I am always multi-tasking watching this show, asked myself if they flew out of state for the date. I love Vanessa. But it pains me to say that whenever I see her now all I think is puke breath. It looked like the handler on the plane was cleaning the ground--could she have spewed worse than just daintily into the bag as shown? Embarrassing. I thought Nick was being very sweetly doting but yeah the kiss was....unsavory. Josephine's singing made me laugh so hard, it was Casey (The Guardian and Protector)-level bad. And then when she doubled down on it, singing like Belle in her talking head I could feel her watching the replay at home mortification from my home.

Not to mention they changed outfits three times (and apparently showered and redid their hair) for her to tell the whole story of: We got drunk at a wedding and hooked up. I also liked the producer stoking with the Nose Ball Girl (you dig your fingers in your nose ONE TIME on National television and look what happens!)--Nick says, totally unprompted, "Tell me about your past relationships? Were any of them good for TV? One was a girl?? No way!!"

Agreed! She looked stunning but her quick wit caught my attention. She probably will get lost in the shuffle sadly. The slap was so over the top and I think it actually did hurt him. You could tell by his facial expression when Crazy continued her fake break-up (which, breaking up as a date? One of the more stupid things they've done)--he was totally over it and wanted her far far away. I liked the swift dismissal of Liz, I wonder if he could've instead just admitted they had a past on the first night? I hated all the sloppy kissing on that photo shoot date. As one girl said "Tastes like Danielle" EW. I liked that the next date's interactions there was less kissing.

BWAH! "You're a wiener in my book" -"I haven't eaten a raw hot dog since I was six". I thought she was toast for sure but he kept her around. She is in a Mesa Verde all her own.

Thanks MaddingCrowd I am also a former Milwaukeean and MU grad! I wonder if I could've ran into Nick on the East Side when I was in college as we're the same age--although he was probably still working with that Peter MacNichol fluffy hair. In the previews by the time he's popping the question his hair has gone Full Jordan/Robby Bouffant. He does have a lisp but I think it's also what Joel MacHale was saying on Jimmy--that he talks while he smiles! The lisp was never more obvious than his multiple takes of saying "Bachelor". I think he's really taken with that soft-spoken nurse--when he seemingly nervously asked her if she worked in a hospital that was pretty cute!

There's more than one Jasmine? I had high hopes for her, in her package she said she went to Johns Hopkins and I was impressed but she came off bad in this episode. In the season preview, there's a scene of her in the spa where she looks like Jaslene from Top Model (dating myself?) I am kind of in love with Rachel and especially Vanessa. She is a knockout, a kind-hearted special ed teacher and fluent in sexy languages. I was confused that Rachel said she went to law school "by" Marquette. Was that a nervous stumble? Or did she go to like UWM or something. Also kind of weird because Waukesha is so close to Milwaukee I wonder if she realized that? Nick's little sister is adorable and I loved how he called her "sweetheart" or something similar when they were kicking the ball around. So did that girl really call Neil Lane and ask him to come?? Drinking game: Drink when Liz, Stage 5 Clinger says "nine months ago". And why the constant emphasis on nine months....is there a surprise baby this season?

I am very confused. Maybe I need to rewatch but to me it also looked really long-abandoned/old? Or do they not figure out he's a host and just assume he killed himself? Why would Arnold just leave him there? During the Man in Black scene with Charlotte when he's like "Stooop! I told you don't interrupt me when I'm playing!" all I could think is, what a dork! He's on the board. "Guys, Man in Black won't be at the meeting today because he's busy following the maze or whatever."

DangerousMinds Yeah I found a 48 Hours episode shortly after posting this that went into a lot of the details I was looking for--like her being sexually harassed in prison. Still I think the filmmakers should have poked around Rudy more!

I wanted so much more--what was it like being in prison?? That's a long time! How was she treated? When did she see how huge the tabloid coverage was, did people bring her clippings? How did she react? What is she doing now? Living alone with three cats making meatballs? Is she working? Does she feel like she needs to be isolated? How often does she talk to Rafael? I wish they would've explored Rudy more. The "journalist" : "I can't just go check out everything people tell me! What if my competitor beats me? That's not what this job is about!" Umm....it's actually exactly what the job is about. Facepalm. There were times when she was sitting there silent with a face that made me honestly terrified. Something is off with her.

Grant is really dumb. I can't stand listening to him. Josh is full of shit and bugs the hell out of me. Sometimes Carly and Evan make me want to vomit and I am not compelled by Nick and Jen since I know the ending. What was the point of bringing on Chicken Girl on almost the last day?

Me too and I noticed at the ending when everyone was congratulating Nick they were standing off on one side together and I thought "YAY!" but they were probably trying to stay as far away from the psychopath in the pigtails and choker. Jared is gutless and I hope he enjoys his clinger for life. I REALLY wanted to hear what made Caila so horrible. Nick will be entertaining--he seems a little more sexy and flirty than past Bachelors. He's going to be 35-36 for filming, if they cast 23-25 year olds I won't be happy.

Josh's "good talk" after waking her up to make sure she didn't want to sleep was suuuuuuch a dick move. Then the next day his "Next time you pull a Houdini act..." What act? The act of going to bed? So freaking controlling. And it will not get better when she needs to devote attention to her children, he won't be able to handle that. Did he say his dog got chemo every day? Really? I love dogs but him justifying his shitty behavior with "My dog was fighting cancer and I couldn't go anywhere to meet chicks for six months!" made me laugh because it was ridiculous. Ashley is the absolute worst and I am counting the seconds until I never have to see her again. How she began that terrible, cruel, selfish conversation with Calia with that cheerful faux-friendly "Hey Caila!" was just disgusting. I can't handle her delusions! If Jared doesn't leave with Calia or grow a pair and tell Ashley to back the eff off in the least delicate way possible, he deserves to be handcuffed to her for an eternity.

It was cruel to make Vinny watch the extra scene of Izzy and Brett hitting it off, complete with a little screen so we could see his pained reaction. And this after trotting out all of these people to say "You are not a pathetic loser that was dumped for a much hotter dude!" I don't think he really appreciated their "advice". And Izzy did not like it when the mom came on at all. Me too! And I loved when Michelle complimented his clean kitchen. LOL That guy definitely would be the sexiest Bachelor they've had. I forgot about her! She was stunning. I just googled her and it came back with an item that she dated Chris Harrison??

Wow Nick is almost 10 years older than Jen! I think Nick does approach this situation with some maturity--I kind of like their slow-burn romance developing rather than just a hookup. It's pretty amazing how Nick has really grown on me--I used to compare him to Peter MacNicol now he's my favorite!

Carly basically crammed every rom-com cliche into that one speech "He was there the whole time and I didn't see it...Even when I look like shit he looks at me like I'm the most beautiful woman in the world...." Sorry she is full of it. To quoth Chad: "Are you seriously vibing this guy??" I wailed when Evan got the date card, why not someone like Nick? Did you catch Jade's reaction when Josh's name was mentioned? She no like him.

What is the point of eliminations if you can just come back? What is the point of date cards if Grant can just plan his own date (or ask producers to plan his own date)? The massage, hot tub and champagne was a hell of a lot better than the booze cruise "date"! That said I could really care less about Grant and Lace, I am so uninterested. Me too, it was hilarious because it was 100 percent, all of America's reaction. Carl is hot. The other new guy with the beard who Daniel said should be on Seniors Paradise (!!!!)...I felt bad that his only option was one of the twins--she's sooo young for him.

The "draw first blood" thing was wild. No filter on that guy for sure. I want to tell Sean not to cross his legs. I honestly don't believe that Jared and Ashley were ever "on"--mostly off and only on in her delusions. "We snapchat every day" isn't really a deep connection.

How about how Nick was dressed up like Book of Mormon at the rose ceremony? Drinking. Out. Of. Vinny's. Bellybutton. Freaking disgusting!!!

Are the deleted scenes presented without the glossy Bachelor filter? I noticed that the people always appear redder or more unkempt! I think Michelle is funny but her presentation can sometimes be off-putting with all the little snarky jabs that she doesn't wait to land. Chad said on his twitter he felt a little ambushed by her. For all his complaining about how fake everyone is and how everyone is promoting something he is just as much of a fame whore if not more than the rest of them: from twitter: "Y'all want a Reality Show of me selling Real Estate in LA, pumpin iron, hittin on babes, hangin with Daniel, & general badassery?! #ChadShow" Although I did find it weird that Jubilee immediately grubbed on the cold cuts, speaking with her mouth full with a piece of meat on her lips, I thought she was pretty bravely tough on Chad.

I don't know how I forgot about the clown, I was certain it would haunt my dreams after that disturbing thrusting bit.

The most ridiculous: Chris Harrison acting shocked and appalled at Chad's behavior, kicking him off the show with "I'm so sorry this happened, we thought it would work". But then they not only feature him in the closing credits but he is also on....the freaking next episode. They love him, like they're thrilled to trash him and cross their fingers that he might hurt someone! It's sad. And now what? We'll get another 30 minutes + After Paradise reunion presumably all about Chad. Chad called Sarah Arm-y McArmingson. Seriously. Who goes to bed with a mimosa? Don't the twins find it insulting to be counted as one person? I thought Jubilee came off better, more light. She really has been working on her RestingBitchFace. Evan's "workout" scene in the beginning....BWAH!!! I am so pumped for Nick v. Josh.