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50 minutes ago, TeeMo said:
What I DID mind was that she was basically the only person I noticed in that dance because she continually put herself front and center. It wasn’t even like she put herself and her partner front and center which I could forgive a bit more but there were multiple times when the focus was on her, just her. It was obnoxious. She already mugs for the camera like crazy so it’s hard not to notice her even in the background. There was no need to make herself such a focus.
Yes, this! Watching that dance I kept wondering why SHE was front and center and I didn't have a clue where Adam was.
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38 minutes ago, spunky said:
P.S. I was more entertained by team 1950s tennis than team football.
Me too.
37 minutes ago, LexieLily said:It irritated me so much that Jenna, who has only been a pro one season and was eliminated on the first week, was taking charge and taking over in the team dance, but then I thought, well, her co-choreographer teammates are Keo, Gleb and Alan. I suppose out of that lineup I'd take charge too, though Alan did good work with Heather.
I'm sure Val was also making a ton of coaching appearances via Facetime/Skype.
4 minutes ago, saber5055 said:It was a pretty entertaining night, but the team dances were all over the place for me, i couldn't tell who was whom with everyone wearing the same thing and (almost) all the women being blond.
During the team dance, Sharna being the only non-blonde really stood out to me tonight.
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I'm sorry to see Kareem go because he just made me smile. No idea how Jennie survived since I thought she was toast. I guess in the competition of male pros who are just meh, Keo beats Gleb by a nose.
Very impressed with Tonya, more than I expected to be. I really like Josh and hope he makes the finals. He seemed to get really hosed tonight so I wonder if he's giving Adam a run for his money in votes. Or rather, if Sharna is giving Jenna one.
Jenna irritates me so bad. I thought she overpowered Adam in their individual dance and I couldn't help noticing she was front and center not only choreographing the team dance but in dancing it too. It's a shame in such a short season with some good dancers that the winner was predetermined before the season even started.....but I guess we need to keep Val happy if we want him back next season (with the rest of the fam in tow).
I really wish this season wasn't so short. I'm having trouble getting really enthused knowing it's over in a couple of weeks already.
Wheeeeee! How could I forget the best part of the night.....RASHAD!!!!!
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31 minutes ago, crossover said:
Agree. TPTB have given Sharna plenty of partners to win with. I'm beginning to think she wouldn't have won even if she had Jordan or Rashad. But even she could've won with Alfonso. This is a shortened season. Name recognition means a lot--even Kareem made it through. Josh seems to be one of the favorites. So again Sharna has a great chance.
Sharna is what Maks used to be -- the one who's had plenty of chances to win, but hasn't been able to make it happen. I just hope we're not in for a future season that's totally scripted to give her the win like we had to suffer through during Season 18 for Maks. But since Sharna doesn't whine constantly about never having won, I'm optimistic.
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1 hour ago, boyznkatz said:
I agree a mini-season in the middle of spring was a horrible idea, and they would have been better off going to the summer. However, I do think they are confusing controversy with high ratings. A lot of people simply don't want to see trash like Harding being glorified. You can tell TPTB are setting her up to be in the finals and it makes me sick.
You would think they could get some fairly big names for an athlete season. I know they will never get Brad Pitt, but would someone like Aaron Rodgers be out of the question? Maybe Josh was the biggest football star they could manage, but surely in the off season they could get someone bigger?
I don't think they'll ever get an Aaron Rodgers or a Derek Jeter or a LeBron. Why would they need to do this show?
One thing I do think is that there's too many Olympians. They're of no interest to me because I couldn't care less about the Olympics.
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1 hour ago, madpsych78 said:
For the team dances, the teams are DIVIDED up as follows (in alphabetical order):
Team 1950s Tennis - "... Baby One More Time" by The Baseballs
Chris Mazdzer and Witney Carson
Josh Norman and Sharna Burgess
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Lindsay Arnold
Tonya Harding and Sasha Farber
Team 1970s Football - "Instant Replay" by Dan Hartman
Adam Rippon and Jenna Johnson
Arike Ogunbowale and Gleb Savchenko
Jennie Finch Daigle and Keo Motsepe
Mirai Nagasu and Alan Bersten
I suspect Team Football is going to win. Although I don't understand why Josh is not on Team Football.
Probably because they know he'll make it through either way and they have to pretend they're being fair.
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2 hours ago, lavenderblue said:
I have to say I do find the emphasis so far on Adam and Mirai being BFFs hilarious after the past quad, for those following skating, had put so much focus on Adam and Ashley as training mates, best friends, and I think at one point even roommates. I do believe Adam and Mirai are tight, they're of the same skating generation, but the narrative now might've been a different one if Ashley had stepped it up this season and gotten to Pyeongchang. (That said, I prefer having Mirai on DWTS.)
I hope they don't cram the friendship down our throats like they did with the married couples last season. I did notice that at the end of the night, it was the two of them Erin was talking to on stage before the results.
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7 minutes ago, kazza said:
If they had to do an abbreviated season, it should have been all skaters and shown during the Olympics.
Then their ratings would have really tanked since I can't imagine anyone but skating fans watching that.
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55 minutes ago, ChicksDigScars said:
I Tweeted at @ABCDancing to FIGHT for their show the next time the network wants to sacrifice them for an unnecessary American Idol reboot, and that cramming this into 4 weeks is rushed and will not let us see any kind of improvement or progression for an athlete such as Arike, an athletic tomboy who has never worn heels. I'd like to see how someone like that IMPROVES. She's never going to beat the figure skaters, but this is part of the show. How the fuck is that going to happen in this format. I basically told them that they're shafting this group of athletes. All in the name of bringing back Teenager Idol. Fuck that.
I've been reading some blogs and message boards, and the comments on articles today, and I have yet to see anyone say they think the short season is a good idea. In fact I see so many people saying they're not even bothering to watch.
The top three complaints I've been seeing are no interest in all athletes, Tonya Harding and the lack of any known pros.
I have never been a fan of All Stars (I hated S15 almost as much as S18) but someone suggested that this would've been a good season for that since the celebs and their relationships with their pros are already known and I have to agree. This would've been the right season to bring back 10 champions or 10 second/third place finishers and have them compete against each other with their original pros. That could've been pulled off in four weeks. What they're doing now cannot. And the irony of it is that for the most part they got a pretty decent cast this season, most of whom would've been great choices for a full season. It's a shame they won't get to experience the whole DWTS process.
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19 minutes ago, ChrisMcGraan said:
Do we know if they'll start doing two dances a night in say week 3 and 4? I'm just hoping there is some way we see more dances from the celebs. Now that I've seen the celebs dance, I think the all athlete idea is really great and I'm surprised they haven't thought of it sooner, but it just bums me out we only have these celebs for four weeks. Imagine the journey of someone like Chris who has no rhythmic background at all or Jennie who seems very invested and stepping out of her comfort zone? These celebs understand body movement if nothing else and I just think it would be great to see a full season with them.
I actually really hope someone other than Mirai and Adam win if I'm being honest...
I thought Erin said at the end of the show that in addition to their individual dance they would have team dances next week?
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4 hours ago, Emily-D said:
Having caught the dances online, if Sharna can’t pull out a win this season then she might as well give up. She’s got the charming likeable non ringer with the stand out opening dance. Basically Rashad 2.0. Thought the right two went home, Arike’s score just gave her the edge over Jamie but I suggest that she’s toast next week. The second one is tougher to call, I think Kareem could knock someone better out, maybe Jennie? Final two will be Josh and Adam.
That may be beyond Sharna's control since it seems Adam and Jenna have already been scripted this win.
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47 minutes ago, Caseysgirl said:
Mirai is a bit full of herself and that vocal fry will drive me insane!
Another thing that reminds me of Meryl Davis...that grating little girl voice!
38 minutes ago, Ladyrain said:Has it been mentioned here - or explained by ABC in general - why this season is so abbreviated? They've done the same thing with Idol. And I hate it! Do they they think we all have such short attention spans that they have to rush things through in what seems like 10 minutes? And also - is this a one-off or will all future seasons be condensed like this one? Gawd, I reeeaalllly hate this. It's so unfair to the dancers (and singers on Idol) not to get a proper chance to develop.
Because they blew the budget load on Idol.
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I'm already bummed this season is only 4 weeks long. I think there are several people who we could've really seen grow and get better in a regular 10 week season. Instead, I think people were just power voting the hell out of their faves tonight so they didn't get eliminated, rather than splitting votes to keep people around they wanted to see more of.
Adam and Jenna are already on my nerves, as is Mirai. Her dancing reminds me so much of Meryl Davis and that brings back horrible flashbacks of my least favorite season ever. I really liked Josh a lot (he reminds me of Rashad) and would love to see him and Sharna win but I think the script is already written for Adam and Jenna. Val in the front row in a bright orange jacket didn't hurt. All that was missing was the dog inside his jacket.
I really wish Lindsay would've given Kareem a bit more to do than just having her and Haley dance around him. Yes he's 70 but he can move a bit and could've pulled off a few more steps.
Tonya surprised me, she was good. I also wanted to see more of Chris and Jennie. But with the two skaters and Josh pretty much a lock for the finals, I think only one of them will push through to the end.
Not surprised Jamie went home, bummed about Johnny. I don't think he would've won, but I think in a regular season, his personality would've come through and he would've stuck around for a bit.
No more short seasons please!
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Rashad will be guest judge next week. I couldn't care less if he knows how to judge, I just want to look at him and see him interact with Emma!
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1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:
Me too. But it's because he's the most attractive to me lol.
Team Baseball here, so it's Johnny Damon for me.
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With such a short season that so many say they're not watching and none of the "big" pros on, I think this season will come down to the fans of the pros trying to push their pro for a win rather than the actual contestants.
The wild card will be just how big a "turnout" there is from the C fam fans and voters who will be pushing for Jenna. Honestly, I don't see any of Maks's fans watching/voting just for Jenna, but since he doesn't have that many of his own fans left, that won't be a big factor. I also don't see Peta's fans watching and voting just for Jenna. Val's fans, yes. They'll be out in droves. The thing there is that there are a lot of Val's fans who don't like Jenna.
Sharna's fans will be out in full force, football players generally do well.....so I can't help but wonder if Sharna and Josh will take the whole thing if he's charming and can dance even a little (Rashad 2.0).
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I don't like Jenna and I'm already sick of her and Adam and all the focus on them. She may be a good dancer (though I've never seen it because she's always too busy mugging for the camera) but I can't help but feel she was given such a ringer to pacify Val for her not being allowed to tour with them and to ensure he comes back next season.
I agree the male pro lineup is very weak but I don't think the female lineup is much better. I like all the other girls well enough but if we're being honest, this isn't Cheryl and Karina and Anna and Edyta we're talking about here. That why I disagree completely that the show needs new blood. They keep trying it and I'm more bored with each new person they bring in. As I've said in other posts, I think the opposite, that they need to make sure they have at least one or two of the old pros each season if they want to hang onto the non-teen audience.
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I love that Johnny Damon is dancing to Centerfield!
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6 hours ago, spanana said:
My theory on Val has always been that Val wanted to keep his options open in case somebody "better" came along. And by better I just mean more famous or known. That is not a dig at Jenna. Then I think he probably eventually realized that he was better off dating a Jenna, who would make her world revolve around him and give him the attention and admiration he wants, without eclipsing his fame. Anybody more famous wouldn't have time to coddle his ego like he needs.
Funny, that's always been my theory on Maks as far as Peta was concerned, only he settled when he was ready for a kid and realized he had no other quick easy options.
3 hours ago, vdw84 said:I have to say I was bit afraid of emma and sasha relationship during season 24 because it seemed like Emma had a serious attraction to her partner and I dont think it was a puton either. I mean some of the ways she was interacting with him was inappropriate and im not talking about onscreen but offscreen as well if u followed her instastories. Rashad was fine, so I get it but she was engaged and her fiance was right there and she didnt care. I find it interesting that sasha never followed Rashad the whole season and even on tour but he has followed emma other partners.
Oh man, if I were Emma I would've been all over that, Sasha or no Sasha! LOL But I also noticed that Sasha has never followed Rashad, even when they were on tour together, while he followed the Property Brother the day partners were announced.
2 hours ago, truthaboutluv said:No words really. And yeah this is not surprising considering how quickly things imploded with those two as soon as the season was over and Janel didn't hide how pressed and bitter she was towards him.
The partnership of Val's I've always been curious about is Rumer Willis. I know Maks and Val's partners always become fam, at least for awhile, but Rumer seemed to get much more involved with the family than most, and her attachment seemed to be more to everyone else than Val. I remember she used to hang out with Maks and Peta all the time, right after they got back together, and Val was never with them. Peta even asked her to be in her wedding the night they got engaged. Then she disappeared for a long time but suddenly there she was in the wedding. And we haven't seen any sign of her since.
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1 hour ago, kayma said:
I love that Chris Mazdzer is on and wish they'd gotten one of the gold medal curlers, too.
They were talking about the cast on my local radio station this morning and the hosts were most excited about Chris being on. They think he's going to win the whole thing.
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33 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:
Particularly interesting because putting the age differences aside with both Val/Jenna and Derek/Hayley, I would hardly call either of these relationships "goals" and it is sad that so many of these young fans see them as such. Val has jerked Jenna around for years, hooking up with multiple other people and going back to her when he was done having his fun (Amber Rose anyone?) to the point that Jenna wrote about this in a blog she has. She never mentioned Val by name of course but people aren't idiots. She essentially admitted in those blog articles how toxic the relationship was, how it did a number on her self-confidence, made her question her self-worth. Of course once Val decided to publicly claim her and has gone around acting like a man in love for the first time, she's since deleted the articles.
Derek meanwhile played the "I'm single" game for almost a year of his relationship with Hayley, essentially hiding her. One of the most pitiful things I ever saw was when she went with him and Mark and B.C. to some tropical island and Derek posted multiple pictures with Mark and B.C., the entire staff that served them at the resort and not one of Hayley. Then there were the multiple unfollowings that told people he dumped her multiple times. Then he finally deigned to start acknowledging her, only to embarrass her in one of the worse ways on social media. I still to this day am curious about what the hell that whole mess was truly about.
From the outside looking in, all it appeared as was that Hayley posted a picture of her and Val from their contemporary number on the tour and made some comment about chickens. Next thing Derek unfollows her, then comments under the picture about seeing how it is and glad she found a new home. The new home line really struck me because all I could think was, "what is she, a stray?" The shippers went into full panic, "the sky is falling" mode, some convincing themselves it was just Derek being funny with his odd sense of humor. Until Hayley came and flat out said that he wasn't joking.
Then her mother gets involved, getting into it with the nuts at Pure Derek Hough. The whole thing was a train wreck - amusing as hell for me to observe but a mess. Then of course less than an hour later, the comments were gone and he was cooing about missing her. What most stood out to me in that mess was the venom of Derek's comment. I've always said I think Derek is one of the most passive aggressive people. But yes, by all means if those teens want to see those as "couple goals", do you I guess.
And let's not forget the ones who see Maks and Peta as the great love story of the century. Apparently the story he's shilling now is that he dumped her because he was soooooooo in love with her but too scared to tell her. I buy that as much as I buy that he knew instantly the breakup was a mistake and he spent years hovering around her, trying to get her back. I guess all that hovering came in between PR-dating Kate Upton and JLo, banging his personal trainer and laying around a beach in Hawaii with Karina.
Even Emma and Sasha, who I think are the most genuine of all the current DWTS relationships had their own breakup for awhile, where they continued living together but she seemed to have her sights set on Val. When that didn't go anywhere, she went back to Sasha. At least she didn't have to unpack.
I honestly thought when Sharna broke up with Paul that she had her sights set on Val so the two BFFs could be with the two brothers. But she never seemed to pursue that and I give her credit for it. I'm so over all these DWTS relationships.
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1 hour ago, spanana said:
I don't think there is anything odd about shipping itself as it's a normal part of adolescence. When it's middle aged women throwing fits over Maksyl then that is another story, but when it's coming from teenagers I think it's generally okay. I agree the immediacy of social media has changed things in that the pros themselves can egg it on or not as they wish, not just in responding to gifts, but they can egg on the shipping altogether based on what they post on their feeds. They can post couple pics and post public comments back and forth with their person for the delight of the fans to ooh and ahh over.
It's no secret how I feel about the whole Maksyl nonsense, but to be fair, it's not just what they post in their social media feeds. Maks and Meryl used not only social media but the tabloid media to continue egging those shippers on long after the expiration date.
And Maks and Peta continue to use the media in all forms to try to keep themselves relevant outside of what has become a very young fan base of girls who worship Peta and see their relationship and the revised history they've invented as the greatest love story ever told.
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8 hours ago, Uke said:
I think they will always have a spot for Mark and/or Derek if and when they are willing. I just think both are moving on to other things.
Mark seems more interested in Broadway acting roles and promoting/producing his wife's music. (I do hope Mark returns to his own music soon! He has such a beautiful mid-range voice and an unselfish way of composing lyrics.) He had turned down S25 and apparently had something else in the works. When that got postponed AND DWTS promised him Lindsey, he came back. Now he on his bi-annual month-long vacation aka belated honeymoon.
Derek has gone onto judging on World of Dance. I don't know if his NBC contract restricts him from ABC/DWTS but I've no doubt DWTS would take him back for a season regardless of his jumping ship to NBC.
I think the same could be said of Cheryl. If she wants a spot and has time between her other projects, she'll be there. But there was such excitement when Maks returned the first time (until he wouldn't go away). Same with Edyta when she returned, but they gave her Geraldo and she was out the first week. I'd be excited if they said Karina was coming back for a season, or Tony, or Anna.
I know they cater to a younger audience now and the current lineup of pros have a different type of fan base who are very vocal about them. Back in the day, each pro had one fan site/Twitter and now these pros have tons of them, holdovers of the people who used to tweet at the troupe members and get retweets and responses about them going pro (Henry was the worst!). But I don't think this pro lineup is as appealing to people who have been watching a long time and (no offense to anyone) people over the age of about 25. I know none of my friends who used to watch the show religiously watch anymore because they don't give a damn about any of these pros and they miss trained champion ballroom dancers and true ballroom dances.
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1 hour ago, spanana said:
The troupe has evolved over the years. When it started, weren't several of the troupe dancers Maks former students? See in addition to Nicole and Teddy, also Kiki who was just on SYTYCD this past season (shockingly picked by one Jenna J), and is now on tour with the Peta and the boys. I don't know entirely what happened but eventually all of the Maks people got dumped by the show. I do remember Val I believe pitching a fit online when Kiki got dumped.
Yes, I forgot about Kiki. And Val did throw a fit when he was dumped.
I thought at the time they put the Volynets in the troupe to lure Maks back to the show. It was when he was off in Ukraine doing The Bachelor and first started making noise about moving on from the show. I thought he'd be too embarrassed to come back once that leaked out. LIttle did I know back then that Maks lives for that kind of publicity and attention!
S26.E02: Week 2
in Dancing With The Stars
I thought he was one of the best judges they've ever had. He spoke from experience but also from watching. I thought all his critiques were really good.