HistoryGirl

Yes, the No Fly Zone. But the No Fly Zone was where the Hydra head was that Fitz took a photo of when he was there. Was it off limits because that's where Hive was, or was it off limits because Will-as-Hive didn't want Jemma to find it? And why didn't Hive kill Simmons in that moment? It didn't take him very long to kill Stephanie or the Transia employees or those innocents? While I'm at it, I'm wondering if the damage to that guy's brain is permanent? Does Simmons also have similar damage? Hmm.

Part of the problem was the Daisy had cut the power/feeds. Fitz and Simmons were on their way to restore the power when they stumbled upon Malick's open door. Fitz had made a comment that there were back up generators or something. So presumably, Daisy cut everything on the base. She certainly had the know how. Additionally, she also is a power-figure on the base. If she told the guards that Coulson wanted them elsewhere, they'd have believed her. I think this is a question that we've yet to receive the answer to. Keep in mind that Lincoln's been talking about how each Inhuman serves a purpose and they're destined for something, etc. etc. So maybe Hive didn't want Lincoln for his endgame? And Hive specifically said that he doesn't kill/eat Inhumans. Or maybe Hive's goal was to get Daisy, and not Lincoln? Remember, Ward never knew Skye as Daisy. She changed her name after the S2 finale, at which point she never had contact with him. So Ward would know her as Skye and thus so would Hive, who retains the memories of his hosts. I feel like all of the dots are starting to be connected and I really think that FitzSimmons are the key to this all. It can't have been just a coincidence that Fitz said "what is Hive, he couldn't even get off a deserted planet without us." Which is very true. Both were able to do what hundreds of years of Hydra never could, in months. I also don't think we've seen the last of Jemma's adventures on the planet. Jemma was in striking distance of Hive for months and yet he never "deboned" her to gain strength? I have the same questions about Will too.

I'm still laughing about grandma, several days after having seen it. That was such a funny moment.

A few things: - Maveth/Goblin Ward is based on the comic character Hive, who has no real long term story attached to it aside from it gobbling up Hydra agents and being just a pain to kill. So I think the writers are going to make this one their own variation. - Lash killed "unworthy" Inhumans. Or at least that's what Andrew seemed to argue. He deemed Daisy "worthy". It's unclear where his loyalties are. Did he kill them off because they weren't worthy enough to be in Hive's army? Or did he kill them off because he thinks they're an abomination or some such racist ideology? Or is there still a piece of Andrew in there fighting to protect the team? I agree that I think the season will come down to Lash versus Hive/Goblin Ward. What I'm most interested in is how much of the host body's memories does he retain? Will he go after Jemma? (Will's memories) Or will he go after Coulson/Fitz? (Ward's memories) I'm still living on the hope train that when Will was killed protecting Jemma it was actually way earlier than the viewer was led to believe by that statement to Fitz. I think/suspect there might be a long con at play, and maybe Jemma was his plaything for a while until Fitz came for her. It would certainly explain why an astronaut didn't really have any understanding of the space science Jemma was explaining and why she was so dazed sounded right before the flare went off.

A lot of people are making a big deal out of Will dying to save Jemma. I think we're forgetting that so did Fitz. In S1 he gave her the last breath so that she could live. I think Jemma cared for Will, but I don't think her love for him is even a fraction of what she feels for Fitz. Fitz is her lobster, essentially. Once she mourns for Will, she'll be back to Fitz wanting to make up for lost time. In fact I fanwank that she's going to be all up in Fitz's grill and he's going to be telling her that she's sending him mixed signals. And in fact I suspect it's going to happen sooner than later. I'm curious as to whether Maveth retains the memories of the host body. Because I have a spec that when Jemma fell down the hole (and was "saved") that's actually when Will died and Maveth took over. But someone mentioned that Fitz smelled the stench of the wound, so maybe it's as simple as him dying when she left with Fitz. But I still can't get over that she was so jumpy and then not-so-much when she was on the planet. It would make more sense to me if she'd lived a fogue state for 3 months while Will was actually just Maveth in disguise and he'd tried to kill Jemma to hitch a ride in her via Fitz's rescue. That way, subconsciously, maybe she actually knew she was in Maveth's company but managed to overcome it. I think it's important to remember that whenever Maveth was displeased with her, he kicked up a sandstorm. When she was running to Fitz maybe he was trying to hide his ultimate plan? I dunno. It's so holey, it's Swiss cheese at this point.

Malick also gave the Goblin a gender. Calling it a "he". This is the first time that it's received a gender! I'm still on the bandwagon that Goblin has taken on the shape of Will and that the Astronaut is actually the Real Will.

I feel like the last line from Malick there about how Fitz was the sacrifice to lead Death through the door is a hint that Hydra actually KNOWS that FitzSimmons have been actively trying to bring back Will and they're okay with that. I think Jemma's reaction in that clip speaks volumes; I think it's actually just dawned on her that Fitz is going to usher the Goblin through because their motivation is the same as Hydra's: Bring Will Back.

ABC promo'd the heck out of the FitzSimmons kiss, so I definitely believe they requested them getting together sooner rather than later. lol Personally, I feel like Jemma was staring at the Will photo because she's conflicted. She's got Fitz-feels happening, but Will's not there for her to see if the feelings she has for Fitz hold a candle to her feelings for Will. I think she was trying to decide how deep her feelings go for Will. That's my fanwank in any case.

A friend of mine suggested that the reason Malick wanted Coulson alive (through Roz and I guess, Ward) was relative to the "Death" manuscript. What if the only way to come back through the portal is to have died or survived death? Both Fitz and Coulson have survived death. And it links with the description for 3x10 "Maveth" wherein Fitz and Coulson seem to be working together on something dangerous. Maybe when Malick got his intel (from whom??) that Jemma came back through he'd assumed that it was Coulson as basically everyone at this point knows that Coulson survived his impaling. In reality, it was Fitz-- whom few (one of which being Ward) know survived his own death. I have a theory that the astronaut was trying to protect Jemma and that when Will fired off the gun he was aiming for Jemma. I'm not sure how it works out exactly cause there are a crap-ton of plot holes stemming from 4722 Hours that need to be cleared up first, but it's a theory I'm running with. I think the Big Bad is, in fact, Will. And I suspect that Jemma's adventures with Will are a false memory implanted by the Big Bad.

A spec on the secret society angle.

I don't think everything with Will is as it appears. It seems from the various articles/snippets from EW that Fitz grows increasingly suspicious of him with every episode. So I think there's more to the story and more to Jemma's adventures on the planet that she's (potentially) forgotten.

What if the astronaut was protecting Jemma? I kind of dig that idea. We never see whom Will fired the gun at. He could've aimed for Jemma and the astronaut (keeper of the planet? the planet itself?) prevented him from getting Jemma. Also someone later mentioned to me that the sandstorm is the very reason she found water in the first place. Some more evidence.

Elizabeth said it at the Rose City Con. I'm not sure what the time stamp is on her saying it, but a fan specifically asks about the rose-drop necklace that Simmons always wears. Ann has been talking about her costumes A LOT lately, especially with it being Halloween and her getting an Emmy nod so I don't have any direct links. But I know since Liz dropped that the necklace was going to show up as a talking piece, people immediately asked a lot of questions of Ann in relation to it.

Yes. I think she's still referencing the editing cut that happened when Will found it. Saying otherwise suggests that her and her team are terrible at their jobs because it's their responsibility to make sure that EH is wearing the same thing at all times to ensure continuity of look and they had only 2 actors to take care of for that episode (3 if you include Fitz). If it was a mistake (they didn't remember to put EH in the necklace while filming the scene where Fitz called for her), then I would've expected her to own up to it by now. She's clearly gotten a bunch of questions about it and there's no shame in owning a mistake. But she hasn't. She's artfully dodging it by repeatedly referencing Will having found the necklace/returning it to Jemma. Alternatively if there was a lost/cut scene where Jemma took the time in the sandstorm to take the necklace off and leave it for him, I'd have expected her to have admitted that too. There's nothing to hide where THAT'S concerned. But if the missing necklace when Fitz comes for her is a hint that not all is as it seems, that's a major, purposeful choice and she's going to remain mum on. Both EH and Ann Foley have been talking about how the necklace is going to play a big part in the plot coming up (this was prior to 3x05). I can't imagine it was just because she'd left it for Fitz and Will had found it. That's not nearly as exciting as EH and AF have been making it seem its meant to be.

No, it's not explained. How she got it, is explained. Not how she then LOST IT again at the end. Ann Foley said that there's a deleted scene of Will giving her the necklace and saying that he'd found it. So that explains it's appearance while she's with Will (sort of, stick with me here). But it doesn't explain why it's there at her sunrise date and promptly disappears when Fitz sends the flare, then reappears when Will calls for her and disappears when Fitz calls for her. Could it be a continuity error? Sure. But Ann Foley keeps replying to questions about it and evading the crux of the matter that it disappears. If you go to this post and scroll down you can see the actual tweets/tumblr asks, at one point someone does ask if it disappearing was a coincidence and she replies with "nope."