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That's the thing, the cop was shown to do what he can do to get what he wants. He even spelled it out for Cary when he took his watch away, told him he was sick of lawyers thinking they are above everyone. Working with people like Bishop and then coming to him talking about the law. However, considering what he has done, his affair with Geneva. He is not an angel either and sad to say, there have been known arrests and SWAT team mistakes due to emails being put in spam folders or hitting department firewalls since they are outside the department or agency. Where they have simple information such as addresses or in this case "export" instead of "import".
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One is the Loneliest Number: Unpopular GG Opinions
readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
Yeah, big UO was when Emily trying to ruin Luke and Lorelai by getting Christopher to get Lorelai back and she called Georgia a "Thing" in his face twice. Rory even referred to Georgia as just being a half sister and nothing else. I'm sorry, if anyone would have called my child a "thing" I be like: "Get the Hell out of my house and never come back." Especially when Chris talked about how much Lorelai and him belong together. He spent almost 2 years never talking to either of them and in the season 3 premiere he acted like Lorelai could be his side gal when he said he was going to focus on marrying his new baby's mom. Why Rory blew up at him because he wanted to choose to be there more for his second kid when she had been there the last 17 years. He chose kid 2 until he was left raising GiGi on his own and didn't know what to do. Even worse, this was part of ASP classic: "She left her own kid." "Chris is the victim here because Dave Sutcliff is mine again to use. Hehe." "Down with L/L!" I know Georgia was a plot device but why, the poor kid had no choice in her existence and the only person who gave a damn about her outside of Christopher was Lorelai and she had no connection outside being George's half sister's mom when Big Sis at one point said she had no sister. -
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readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
Exactly! Same with Logan's grandfather, he was all school where kids got married while still finishing college and the man worked and the woman stayed at home with the kids and then later moved on to working or other events after the kids were in school. To really throw a big WTF was when Emily and Richard was saying how it would be great if Rory married Logan when they first went out and Lorelei pointed out how short they had been together or that Logan didn't even admit he was her boyfriend yet. Let they were off on one of their little fantasy worlds where the universe revolved around them. It also made Shira and Mitchum come off as major hypercricts when people know Shira marred for money and most likely because she was pregnant with Honor and that Mitchum was known to still be sneaking around. Shira was very disconnected from her son's life or how people were now a days in college even places like Yale. If she really knew anything, she would have seen that Logan was about having fun and yes Rory was different but at the same time. He was showing no signs of wanting to settle down or anything and Honor who was a few years older than him had a nice guy who from what was revealed came from a similar upbringing as Rory just that his parents got married and then had him. Rory was so narrow minded she still at this point wouldn't admit that Georgia was her half sister until Chris came back into their lives because his wife left him. Rory really should have said: "We just started dating." "I'm not here to do anything." Shira and Logan's grandfather either could have accepted that answers or not. No, it took Richard and Emily tearing them a new one and Rory getting back on her feet that finally convinced them. -
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readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
That's why everything went out the door and why I thought everything was horribly written and acted with all of this. I never got mad at how Mitchum told Rory she didn't have it. He actually did it very professionally it was just the build up was that the Hutzburger family had it out for Rory and then add in this horrible build up with the Economics class where the professor told her, it was ok. She wasn't alone, he did it very professionally too and even kindly. Yet, Rory's bubble was burst and instead of Lorelai saying: "I hate to tell you Rory but there are going to be a lot of people who tell you, you can't do it or you will find you aren't good at everything." "You have to do either two things, either prove them wrong or accept it, learn and move on." Yet, Lorelai's response: "Oh well, you are perfect." Richard did it, Emily told her. Rory had this constant talk and even a backing of her home town that she was this perfect little girl who could do anything and as soon as she received any feedback she wasn't, she shut down. That was the problem when she decided to drop out of Yale and move in with her grandparents. It was a complete 180 of who the character was. Same with Paris, why I had such a problem with Paris with her little breakdowns. She went from realizing she wasn't perfect but was still good at things after her little meltdown where she blamed having sex with her boyfriend the reasons why didn't get into Princeton. She then makes it into Yale, has a good things going for her, then sleeps with her professor. Then recovering from his death and problems with his family, gets into a relationship with Doyle. Then builds a crazy hut when she can't handle the pressures of being editor so Rory can get into the position and rebuild her reputation after out of nowhere breakdown. Then she decides to become a doctor. The writers especially ASP just threw out story ideas and tried to see what stuck and instead of following through or have people you know... react in a normal way. They had to be wacky or do wacky things no one in their right mind would do. Its also why I was happy with how Lindsey's mom told Rory she screwed everything up but did one person really yell at Dean outside of Lindsey throwing stuff out the window? No! Lorelei's reply with their relationship after everything: "It makes her happy." Yeah, great parenting skills there. Now, if Lindsey would have attacked Rory when the face to face happened, that would have made sense for a 19 year old girl who had her husband cheat on her with his ex girlfriend. Instead she looked like she just wetted her pants and then that was the last we ever saw of her. There were just bad follow throughs on these story lines because when it came to the big drama of stories. There was no follow through, things were just dropped. -
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readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
Misworded that. Liz telling Luke that him keeping April a secret instead of just asking Lorelai for help. Not flat out saying: "Hey, I have an almost 13 year old daughter I never knew existed." It should have been more: "I... have a problem and I don't know what to do." She said it best: "Who keeps something like that a secret?" As in Luke getting the baby bomb on him and just being hush hush. Because he basically told Jess just before he showed up and Jess handled it pretty well even though he was shocked by it too. Not with how April's mother never told Luke. Which was also pretty stupid too. It was also a shout out by the new showrunners saying: "Yeah, it was a stupid idea for a story and now we have to plow through this mess." -
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readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
I agree because they never felt guilt on it until called out on it. Even with Luke when Liz told her about why she kept April a secret and how he handled it better with Jess just because he was "family". Even Emily by the final episode when Lorelai hugged her was having her taken by it and then patted her daughter. It was thrown in just to give some closure with the show ending but the look was like: "I guess she does love me." Well duh! -
April and her mother was one of the worst ideas that ended up taking over the show. This entire plan by the Ps to mess up Luke and Lorelai's relationship. Plus prove: "Luke can't handle surprises" was so horribly thought up and executed how anyone thought it was a good idea is beyond me. GG was not the first show to think of an idea and have no idea where it would go. Tons of TV shows, books, comic writers have done this for years. However, they are so ready to throw a wrench into their own writing it takes over the show and ruins it. The best example was on one of my favorite TV shows, Everwood. They decided to make the character of Madison pregnant and the creative team said: "We wanted to see where it went." The problem was, the actress was already cast on another show, the main creator of the other shows were busy getting another TV show off the ground and when it was all over. They admitted: "Maybe we shouldn't have done it without a plan." On Gilmore GIrls even after the show has ended, the creators still admit that April was an idea that took on a life of its own and didn't work out as they envisioned. Not to mention they still don't get why the audience reacted so negatively about it. They never thought for one second that the character of April would completely undo the character of Luke, especially how he reacted to it. Never mind the actress playing April's bitchy mother was busy with other TV projects so her filming would be limited. Not to mention her character was so one dimensional you couldn't understand how Luke ever got involved with her 15 odd years ago. Then when they admited they were almost at a dead end with the story, Rick Suttfliff was free again and they went: "Hey, Christopher can put the nail in the relationship, let's do it!" When they admitted when season 6 ended, they had no idea how to resolve the storyline, the Ps left the series and the new showrunners had no idea what to do but have Christopher and Lorelai relationship play out most of the season with the general plan they would fall apart in the end and move on with their lives after over 20 years. Then with the ratings tanking and the showrunners saying they wanted another season like the Ps wanted. They told them, they ruined the show, so they could either end it on a good note or not. Sad how some creators get so caught up in their egos they ruin their own shows. April being a great example.
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One is the Loneliest Number: Unpopular GG Opinions
readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
I agree, the writing staff constantly threw out the "Moonlighting Effect" with Luke and Lorelai saying that it would get boring or sighting certain soup operas or fellow writers. With their excuse: "The best characters never change." Both those analogies are very stupid in my opinion. The basis of the Moonlighting Effect was a result of a writers strike, poor timing and the actors having a problem with each other. The talk about "the best characters never change" needs to be that what makes up their core doesn't change. When you take shows like Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, Dallas and so forth. The characters at their core didn't change but did they learn from their actions? Sure. Did they regret or enjoy who they became? Of course. That's how you do it, you keep the basis of who they are but the characters need to grow either for the better or for the worst. S1 Emily especially with what happened with Rory and Dean in that episode. It all worked, when we saw her help Lorelai with getting a loan to get her house taken care of when termites came in but then how she wanted to use the Inn for her DAR meetings. That worked. However, getting Emily to break up Luke and Lorelai and her excuse because of Christopher's gene pool and family, that was too much. Emily not realizing that maybe, just maybe the Huntzburgers were asshats until Richard confirmed that everything was true. That was all badly handled. Then when they tried to get Emily to buy a house for Luke and Lorelai to smooth things over, that has small glimpses of those the past Emily. At that point, even if she was my mother I would have told her to go jump off a cliff, her idea of helping was backwards. -
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readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
Exactly. I'm sorry, but at some point you have to move on with our lives and the way Emily and Lorelai were going. I was waiting for them to travel back in time to just before Lorelai revealed she was pregnant when it all started. They kept going backwards. -
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readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
I get the anger but it gets to the point that afterwards after over 20 years. It was time to get over it. Their granddaughter went to Yale, Lorelai became a successful business owner. Yet, it was constantly implied: "Why can't you just marry Christopher and be a completed family." As if Lorelai marrying someone outside their society was a horrible thing. I lost all respect for Emily when she did her best to break up Luke and Lorelai and then I wanted to smack Lorelai for constantly going back to Christopher. Something that drove me nuts about Christopher was not becoming a father at 17 and then barely being around. It was he got a second woman accidentally pregnant in his 30s and then didn't have any idea how to handle raising Georgia. Revealing he basically became his father, working all the time and barely being home. Then had no idea how to handle a toddler, I get he was in a panic and to find out his parents basically told him: "You are on your own again." I was like: "Christopher had some really horrible parents." but instead of trying to rise above them, he did his entire: "Someone else can help me instead." I think it also spoke volumes when it was revealed that the grandfather left everything to Christopher not only because his father died before him but also the grandfather had no respect for Chris's mother. You can argue that he did it for Christopher because he was in his late 30s, in great health and leaving it to his daughter-in-law wouldn't work since his own son passed away a year earlier. However, it also continued that most of the parents of the main characters had no respect for their children's spouses. Trix hated Emily because she felt Pennlyn was better for Richard. Emily didn't want Lorelai to marry a "diner owner". Logan's mom and his grandfather didn't want Logan together with Rory because they thought she was trash. Considering Logan's mom was a former cocktail waitress and the grandfather was known for his partying and sneaking around. Then add in Chris's parents, Strobe blamed everyone for his son's horrible life instead of the fact Christopher made all the decisions himself. His mother just nodded with Strobe and never said anything. If there was one thing to be said to all, Emily should have had a wake up call when she read Trix's letter and realized she was being her for the same backwards reasons. Instead she just got drunk and laughed over Trix's ideology. However, I will never understand why Richard was secretly having lunches with Pennilyn for over 10 years he revealed. That was so OOC for Richard and even more, how do your wife would react to find out you were meeting your ex for lunch for over a decade. Richard never gave an excuse for the lunches outside of: "Well, we were engaged." That was the worst excuse I have ever heard. If I said that to my wife, I can tell you, I would be a dead man. -
There were many times that I really wanted to know what fantasy world Emily and Richard lived in. Especially to the points that Emily went to break up Lorelai and Luke with Christopher. Even when Lorelai told her they were done, a week later she was shocked that Lorelai was actually serious. Emily expected Lorelai was just mad and would calm down. She couldn't grasp the fact she was trying to break them up because she didn't want a diner owner for a son-in-law and kept thinking Lorelai would take her place in the DAR. As my mom put is simply: "She stopped caring about the DAR before she was even pregnant." Plus, she basically told Christopher he wanted Christopher before of his family and genes. Like he was a horse, this is why I still hate Christopher to this day. He should have told Emily right there: "Screw you, I'm not a horse and I'm done getting women pregnant." Yet, the moron proved why I never liked his character. The biggest problems I had with Richard was what happened with Digger because he dare to date his daughter and believing that the Huntzburgers didn't call Rory trash. When they then admitted it when they said that Rory couldn't be a DAR spokesman either. Then all of a sudden they realized that it was all true. Then don't get me on the point they couldn't believe that Rory who was almost 21 was having sex with Logan. Hello, Logan!
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One is the Loneliest Number: Unpopular GG Opinions
readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
That's the thing, the lawyer came off like a complete idiot even telling Richard to go to Hell after Richard told him he screwed up. For someone who apparently had been an attorney for years. You could tell this was an episode and situation that was written by people who didn't even bother trying to make it semi realistic. Of course for the storyline to work with Rory's "downfall" we had to suspend belief that Emily and Richard had to be so unaware of what happened and what lead to the situation. Especially, when Logan offered not only his help but his lawyers knew how the judge worked too. -
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readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
Speaking of UO, something that really bothered me was how they handled fallout from these situations. Rory's community service and her reaction from Logan's dad telling her she was horrible at journalism was a really horribly handled story line just to get Rory to live with Richard and Emily. The judge threw the worse punishment outside of jail time on Rory. Yet Logan, who had multiple arrests, fines, etc and was publicly known to do this stuff was off to Europe for the summer. He didn't even check in on Rory during that time. Really? Fight Face is also such a horrible episode, if I heard "show your fight face" one more time in that episode I was going to travel back in time and attack the camera crew. Plus, how Richard and Emily thought it was from Lorelai not being around for Rory to help her with the pressures of college life that the reasons why she stole the yacht were so out of character for them. "Oh, it couldn't have been Logan's influence or the Hutzburgers." "They are high society like us." "Why would they treat Rory like that and also why would Rory go overboard like that." "It must have been you and the pressures of college." It was then the reaction to when Richard and Emily found out the truth. Richard has been shown to be very resilient to anger but I was waiting for Richard to kill them both. The look on Emily's face spoke volumes. Speaking of that, the fact that Emily wanted Lorelai and Christopher together was because of how it would make her look. From all 7 seasons and so forth. The only one who truly hated Lorelai for getting pregnant outside of Richard and Emily was Strobe. No one ever seem to care or notice. There was never any talk and even Trix apparently didn't care and still carried her distaste for Emily for almost 40 years. Now, that was anger. -
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readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
Ugh! I hated Nicole. Especially when they were trying to divorce and all of her fellow lawyers kept stalking Luke that he must want something because Nicole was "a lawyer" and no one wants simple clean divorce. Even worse, the excuse was because Nicole was like a little sister to them. Oh please! The entire relationship post "cruise wedding" was so stupid for words. All of a sudden Nicole was like: "You know, let's just try this again even if you have no interest." Luke's reaction and thoughts behind it were so out of character for him as well. He was not in the relationship at all but considering this was post Jess, of course Luke was thinking he had to fix things. What really was crazy was the reason Nicole wasn't around the last couple of episodes that was the cheating with the Sock Man and the final notarizing was because the actress was filming a movie. Luke owned a diner, Nicole as a partner in a firm. They were married a whopping month. There was no baby, no owning of an animal or property. The divorce was even stupider than the marriage. -
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readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
Funny thing about Digger was I actually liked him but then his write off the last few episodes was horrible. "Hey Richard, my son is dating your daughter." Richard: "Forbidden!" "Sure, I'll come back to work for you, Digger is out." Digger: "I'm suing my own father and your father for screwing me over." Lorelai: "Then go away!" R&R: "Hey Lorelai, I'm going to follow you everywhere until you have me back." Then his shack catches fire and we never hear of him again. -
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readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
I didn't mind Lucy and Olivia but they we had an entire season of character build up and face time with Rory and Paris's freshman roommates. They they just dropped them. Put Doyle front and center with Paris and then here were Lucy and Olivia to of nowhere and they were quickly BFFs and then you had that fallout with Marty. UO here but I really feel Marty was a character that should have had more shine and the fact that much like Jared and Milo, when Wayne Wilcox was not busy with shows on Broadway. Amy P just was like: "Oh, I have an episode for you, let's make you one of Rory's new friends boyfriend and then have two episodes of complete fallout and then you can head back to Broadway. Only actor who was introduced that they wanted to be more of a part was Adam Brody and once The O.C became a hit they turned to hooking Lane up with Zack. -
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readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
Deep Fried is really all over the place. I was even shocked that Jackson did the deep fry for the turkey. Do he not know how anal Sookie was about how things were to be cooked especially after being married to her at that point. Not to mention when she tried to go overboard like the Lord of the Rings birthday party making green mac and cheese? It was like all the characters had no brain cells and expected everyone to just shrug their shoulders and enjoy the meal. -
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readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
Richard's final line was very heartbreaking. Since this was Trix's funeral. -
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readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
Did some checks on IMDB and several fan wikis. Charles died when Richard was 10 and he had outgrown his custom made suit before he could wear it. So, I was off by 2 years but Richard has been without a father since he was 10, pre-teen years. -
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readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
Yes and then magically they healed when Liz called him that Luke still had his car. Revealing that Jess couldn't work things out with his dad so he came back. So, remember kids, the moral of the story is. If you have problems with a parental member in your family just live with them briefly and you will heal the problems with your other parent. -
Raincoats and Recipes Lorelai: "I'm loving you like a $2 hooker." Fred Applegate's Character: "Thanks, Lorelai." "I'll remember to let my wife know that." Cracks me up every time. Fred Applegate's response on the phone was just priceless.
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readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
Perfectly said. I love flawed by gifted characters. However, with most of the male characters they were so flawed they were laughable and sadly Luke went that way too and Jess. They went from flawed but good people to: "Please leave town." -
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readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
Doyle was annoying and now that you put in Paris's lack of a father in her life, I just realized, all the main characters in this show had a lot of father issues verses mother issues. I mean, Lorelai and Richard, Jess and his father, Rory and Christopher, Christopher and Strobe, Emily's father was apparently always working, Richard's dad died when he was 8. Paris had no father, Marty found out his uncle was his real father, Kirk's dad died young too, Jess's father revealed his dad ran out on him. Luke tried being like his dad, TJ's father was non-existent in his life and after him and Liz's daughter was born he admitted he was going to be more of a father than his own was. Lane's father was never explained why he was never around. Taylor and his brother said they tried being like their father. You can even go as far as Jess's father's girlfriend and her daughter living with them was because her ex-husband walked out on her too. When it comes down to it, Lorelai and Emily and Emily and Trix were really the only "mom" issues on the show. Christopher's mom barely ever spoke. -
Very true, and Rory should have just said: "Yeah, you look horrible." "Let's reschedule for next week." No, it was; "You got into a fight with Dean didn't you? Didn't you! Admit it." I'm sorry but at that point Jess should have just came clean going: "I got attacked by a goose ok?" "You think I'm happy I just got a black eye from a damn bird!" "There, happy?" "If not, then go ask Dean now."
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One is the Loneliest Number: Unpopular GG Opinions
readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
That's what makes it worst, Paris pretty much knew it was a bad idea and with Asher, he was having a relationship with someone his grand daughter's age. I really felt bad for Jaime, he really didn't do anything wrong and when Paris ended up with Doyle in the end. She got what she wanted in-between, an older, educated boyfriend that was pretty much a fall in relationship. I still feel the roommates were wasted potential for Rory's "breakdown" which was really poorly handled. Many people defended it saying that Rory needed a reality check but she took it like the Dean of Students or the President of the US told her she sucked. It was her boyfriend's father and while he was a big name in journalism. It came off that Rory was so attacked by the entire Hutzburger family except for Logan, Honour and Honour's fiance. She felt like she was crap. Funny considering her other grandparents saw her as non-existent, that would be more damaging and harmful in my opinion. Yet, she defended them even after Strobe died telling her Dad she was so sorry and he was an OK guy. I was like: "What?" He hated you and while you can be sympathetic to your father, your other grandfather was a major ass.