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  1. 1 hour ago, Future Cat Lady said:

    Does David R. actually get paid for his printing ministry?

    And if his business was doing so great that they needed a bigger place (according to Jill), why did they move to another state? Wouldn't they lose their clients? They could always ship the documents, but it would cost more?

    We've seen the fruits of his scanty labor, so I'd say "no" to your first question.

    I'm also leaning towards the "narrowly escaped CPS in WV" speculation being actuality.  The part where Jill (re?)posted an old anecdote about a CPS visit in which Timmy was still at home as though it were fresh, and waxed indignant at the very idea that anyone would infer she and Shrek neglect their kids, told the tale IMO; and we only have Jill's word for it in the first place that the CPS person was favorably impressed. 

    I mean, c'mon, if/since we've seen David R juxtaposed against the kids and have been horrified for months, there's no way the CPS worker didn't ask if he's the primary person in this family getting fed.

     

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  2. On 1/1/2020 at 9:01 PM, jcbrown said:

    It's nice to see Joy so seemingly besotted with her little boy.

    Yeah, I've very much been a party of one on this topic, but I don't think Joy will be/is blanket training Gideon.  Even when he was a newborn, she was driving everyone on the thread crazy petting his wee baby feet, like she couldn't quite believe he was real.

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  3. 10 hours ago, Giant Misfit said:

    Over at the Bethel mega-church in California, the two-year old daughter of a church member died. Very sad, right? Well, now the parents and the church are asking people to pray for the child's resurrection via a viral social media campaign and the parents would like to have $100,000 of the public's money for "unforeseeable expenses." 

    These people are lunatics.

    The child was a little doll (the picture the newspapers are going with is clearly one of the worst available; maybe they think it's more controversial if readers think she's wearing Baby Amish garb 24/7); and thus I certainly understand their impulses.

    However, I wonder if it's possible that when she doesn't get brought back to life 🙄, that it will be a big and much-needed jolt of disillusionment to the church that eventually leads to its cultish demise.

    https://www.newsweek.com/church-raising-100000-raise-child-dead-1478511

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    Bethel congregants have previously turned to the power of prayer to cure ailments. The church has maintained a "healing rooms ministry," and Johnson claimed that brain tumors and other diseases were cured there.

    One of Bethel's more controversial initiatives is the "Dead Raising Team," founded by a graduate of the school's School of Supernatural Ministry. The volunteer groups tag along with first responders and attempt to pray for deceased individuals to come back to life. According to their website, they have "brought about 15 resurrections amidst the 60 teams worldwide."

     

  4. 10 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

    I had waist length hair in my 20's.  I had it cut to shoulder length, and I did get fewer headaches after that.

    Jill looks great.  It's nice she's donating hair.  Yay!  🙂

    As per my mother, hairdressers still call shoulder-length hair "long" (source: her regular hairdresser makes her book two time slots on account of it).  Jill's hair looks great and I hope she keeps it there.

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  5. 43 minutes ago, sleepysuzy said:

    I don't agree. I worked in childcare for years, have an MEd in Early Childhood Education, and have four children. Bruises are just blood from broken blood vessels, and can happen pretty easily in active children. I had to file numerous "incident reports" in the center where I workwd because we had to document every bump or scratch, and most were caused by minor accidents. Children do literally trip over their own feet and fall down for no reason on a pretty regular basis. 

    I even had hamdouts for parents about bruising and how long it takes a bruise to appear, change color, and heal. 

    Yeah, I'm with you, I've bruised easily all my life.  Partly because I am cousin to a ghost crayfish; partly just because.  I think I was about 45 before my mother gave up asking me "How did you get that bruise?!?!" 

    Me:  "Um, I have zero idea?" 

    "How can you not remember that?!?" 

    Me:  *shrug*.

    I go to the allergist, and the flu shot I got 2 days ago has given me a livid bruise.  "Did I do that?" asks the nurse practitioner in awe.  Sometimes when I see a new specialist I've been known to bring a copy of my latest blood tests to prove that I don't have anemia (they've tested).

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  6. 1 hour ago, fonfereksglen said:

    The vasectomy choir ..... oh please!

    Reminds me of someone on the popular Gosselin forums from 10 years ago.

    From the 1995 Dallas Observer:

    https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/virgin-academy-6404353

    The five functions, [Bill Gothard] explained, are for a woman to teach her children; to offer hospitality to guests; to possess a basic knowledge of medicine and healthcare, with special attention being given to natural childbirth (one of Gothard's stranger quests is to gather a 1,000-voice choir of children born into the world after their parents underwent reversal surgery for vasectomies and tubal ligations); to operate a home business; and finally, to teach others--"going out into the community and helping people."

    Unless BG was trolling this reporter, I don't have difficulty extrapolating that a choir of far less than 1,000 people were collated at some point and shown around.

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  7. 48 minutes ago, BetyBee said:

    I read the Reddit AMA several days ago and can't get it out of my mind. I feel so bad for the innocent children in this cult. Because we have snarked in such detail, I was sorry to learn that much of what we suspect is actually true (according to the Reddit poster) and it's even worse than we suspected.  She sounded so messed up from what she'd been through (and is older than Josh and doesn't seem to know the Duggars personally, so I can understand her getting some facts wrong) and is still struggling today. Her parents sound like monsters. The family they wanted to marry her off to was awful too. It is astonishing to me how much abuse goes on in these various churches and cults. I feel sick to my stomach thinking of what innocent children go through.

    I did feel that she didn't clarify what exactly JB's thoughts are on the marriages he makes for his kids. She repeatedly said that the Duggs don't have status for inter IBLP marriages. But she also made it sound like Pa Keller has achieved higher status marriages for his kids. I don't really think so. Esther is married to a fool. Anna is married to a sex pest and Nathan is dipping into the Rodrigues pool. None of that sounds to me like they are moving up the fundy ladder. Only Prissy has a "royal" Gothard marriage and what she says Pa Keller traded for that one makes it clear why Priscilla hesitated!  

    It all just sounds awful!

    Didn’t she also say that Joy was the one who married best when she married into the Forsyths?  I remembered thinking... ‘Joy as the Elizabeth Bennet of her sister cohort... that is pretty unexpected.’  Maybe that’s because the Forsyths are making more bank at their camp than we heretofore suspected?

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  8. Joy seems like she might be the most naturally successful "earth/soccer mother" of the married girls so far.  I think she would really dig carpooling everyone, and chaperoning museum trips and away games, etc., etc.  Maybe some day she and Austin will send their children out to school.

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  9. Lauren2 is blessed indeed in the restrictive pool of suitors IMO, as James is usually to be found in the background of a Duggar picture making googly-eyes at some baby niece or nephew.  For what they want out of life (Breeding machines 4-eva!), he'd be my pick of the litter, as I think he'd really be enthusiastic about being a father.  (Now, don't go and disappoint me, James!)

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  10. 53 minutes ago, awaken said:

    Speaking for myself and the homebirth communty here, we have post graduate degrees, in the health sciences, my midwife has a PhD in midwifery, her team has masters degrees, and none of us are fundie, or even Christian.  All prenatal care and testing done with full informed consent, with integrated medical care and backup. There certainly may be some who do it for unrealistic or religious reasons without trained providers, but that’s not remotely everyone who chooses homebirth. As with homeschoolers, Christians in general, etc, it’s an extremely heterogeneous group, and aren’t all be painted with the same brush. The Duggar Way definitely doesn’t represent the broader community in any of those areas. 

    I was going to say, surely it depends upon where you are, yes?  I imagine, for example, that San Francisco has lots of midwives and secular pregnant women who seek out midwives.  Or Seattle, I’m sure I could go on.

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  11. 9 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

    Watched the last episode of the Plath family. Rebel Cousin Amy has nothing on the DIL in the Plath family. I think the DIL is young, naive and out of line, but it would really be interesting to see what would happen if the Duggars, Bates or Rods ended up with an in-law like Olivia Plath.

    Olivia and Mrs. Meggs are like the forum dream fundies.  They met the Plaths at some sort of event sponsored by the Pearls.  The Plaths continued to drink the Kool-Aid.  Olivia and her mother, however, went home so disturbed by the things about Gothardism that had been done and said during this retreat, that they decided as a family to get the hell out. She should be the thread mascot, lol.

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  12. 3 hours ago, ethalfrida said:

    I have friends and cousins who refer to their parents in those terms even though they are speaking with their siblings.

    It's funny the Plath kids would, though, IMO, as I was raised in an authoritarian fundamentalist family myself, and my mother would (and in fact did) lose her shit on the infrequent occasions I would say to my sister "because your mother/father doesn't want you doing XYZ".  "I am YOUR mother!" (foams at mouth).

  13. 18 hours ago, floridamom said:

    I have to wonder, in Jinger's case, how Jeremy justifies his more worldly approach to life..the pants wearing, dancing at that reception, etc to Jinger regarding her parents' rules. She was brought up to believe that HER FATHER and all MARRIED FATHERS have the direct line to God's preferences and will for us here on earth. Her whole life, her parents told the children that dancing, pants wearing was not right and could lead to sin...so they avoided it altogether not to risk sinning or causing someone to sin. (Which is ridiculous.) How is it now, not sinful to participate in those things? Did Jeremy just come right out and tell her that he parents are wrong about these things and unnecessarily severe with themselves and their children? Did she have to live such a severe life and was it all for nothing, really, in God's eyes?

    Wouldn't you, the first chance you got?  

    Although, she's probably mighty confused because hasn't Mechelle come out several times in public and claimed that "skirts only" is right for her and her decision; but she can't speak for anyone else and their purported convictions?

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  14. 2 hours ago, Zella said:

    I went to church a lot for the first 21-ish years of my life and never attended one that had a cantata for, well, anything. I am more familiar with cantatas from the realm of music. I assume it depends on the denomination and perhaps the formality of the individual churches on whether or not they have one? 

    Wikipedia seems to think that a Christmas cantata is just like any other cantata, except Christmas themed, so hopefully the church itself knows what they did and whether or not it has multiple movements.  🤔 

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  15. 3 minutes ago, PikaScrewChu said:

    The J'Slaves (and Josh) were prominently featured and people were able to assign personalities to them, even if they were one dimensional. Kind of like the Spice Girls. Jana was CinderJana, Jill was the snitch, Jessa was the beauty/vain one, Jinger was the rebel, and Joy was the tomboy. 

    TLC was able to create personalities for them even if they didn't have them. 

    But they're pretty much still those people, with the exception of Jessa who must be too tired to play princess around the clock, so "create" might not exactly be the most useful word...

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  16. 2 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

    Jimmy Kimmel does all sorts of mean challenges. Throw snow at sleeping relatives, serve meatballs made out of snow etc. I rarely watch his shows but you tube has plenty of them.

    He was also responsible for half of the terribly sexist "The Man Show"; so he doesn't fool me.

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