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According to USA TODAY, on Monday's live show they will have "Donald E. Grant, an expert on diversity, equity, inclusion and justice, and nationally acclaimed trauma therapist and life coach Anita Phillips" as guests. If anything, they should have had these two on (or other guests with similar credentials) the day after the trainwreck, while Osbourne was still on the show. Osbourne is the one who would benefit the most from the conversation, why wait until after she's gone to bring these two on ? Waiting a month after this debacle without Osbourne - the one who needs to be part of this discussion the most - has much less of an impact.
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They better sneak in a few 'View Your Deal' s from Oprah and Gretta - otherwise I'm boycotting the show.
Wouldn't it be funny if their research shows ratings are up NOT because of the tension Meganutz brings to the show, not because of the guests, not because of the political topics...but because of 'View Your Deal' segments ? A daily garage sale is what is pulling the audience in by the millions??? 😛😄
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2 hours ago, Medicine Crow said:
If "producer credits" means she's benefiting (financially) from the show, then yes, I think it behooves her to make an appearance. Otherwise, it's her life!!!
Since it's her 'creation', yes she benefits financially from the show until it's over. (Same with Walters and 'The View').
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1 hour ago, rcc said:
Holly and Leah on a new talk show. I would watch. Hopefully they get one.
They were fired ten years ago. The two of them have moved on to other projects where they have made their marks. I don't think these two want to revisit a 'talk show' format. They would have gotten together and pitched the idea years ago if it interested them in the least.
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I finally watched the show last night when I got home. It seems like after the first Hot Topic, the 'teacher' left the room (Sara, where did you go?) and the kids took over the classroom. What chaos the rest of the show was. It was as if they couldn't wait for the bell to ring and they were all out of there.
Again, Goldberg's facial expressions to Meganutz's rants are priceless. She put's that 'WTF ?' look on her face, then mutters something before commercial. Reminds me of Dorothy's classic reactions to Rose's long-winded stories on 'The Golden Girls'.
That said, the brief time Sara was on the show yesterday - who thought it was a good idea to dress her for Halloween? An orange top with black shapes all over it (and the shapes looked like bats) ? Appropriate for the month of October, Sara..not April. Dress in some pastels and something more cheerful.
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On 4/7/2021 at 5:11 PM, catlover79 said:
I thought she was no longer involved with the show, period.
I think she has exec producer credits still, and besides - this is 'her creation' as she has said over and over. She (supposedly) chose Osbourne for a cohost back in 2010, as well as the other hosts (according to interviews back then). This show is her legacy, as she has taken credit for it over 11 years. If she wants to save her legacy, she should step in for one day, address this issue (and racism on a talk show is an issue), and then set the path forward for them. When she left, she made the obligatory 'promise to return from time to time' - this is the time she should return.
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14 hours ago, tinkerbell said:
today's Book Review on The View - the book "The Good Sister" sounded familiar, so I looked it up on Amazon. There are SIX different novels with that exact title, and I'm sure I read one of them at some point, but now I'm confused.
Haven't seen the show yet, but I'm betting they are talking about this newest one, which will be released next week. https://www.amazon.com/Good-Sister-Novel-Sally-Hepworth/dp/1250120950
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7 hours ago, DanaK said:
In regards to Tina, I recall Tina performed a series of duets with I think Beyonce on some awards show and Beyonce introduced her or called her The Queen of Soul or something like that, and Aretha complained about it the next day in a press release! A lot of people thought that was a really petty move
Yes, indeed. I remember that well. And like I said earlier, she called out Warwick publicly for 'lying about her', shortly before her death. The lie? Warwick reiterated that Franklin was the Godmother to Whitney Houston, which has been said publicly (even by Whitney and her mother Cissy) for decades. So Warwick mentioned this in an interview.
Franklin got bent out of shape, and asked Warwick to 'take that back' and wanted the paper which the interview was published to 'retract' Warwick's statements. Talk about petty! So she starts this public feud with Warwick (I want to say it was early 2017) and Dionne - the lady which she is - walked away from it. She wouldn't respond.
Warwick, Streisand, Houston, Ross, Knight, Turner, LaBelle - even Natalie Cole when Cole had her great successful comeback in the early 90's - Franklin was very envious of them all, and felt threatened by them (especially Streisand in the 60s).
Like I said earlier - this was the very public side of Franklin, yet the movie didn't cover any of this.
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I think 'The Talk' should take a page from 'The View' from 15 years ago, when the show returned without Star Jones - as she was fired over night from the show.
Barbara Walters - creator and exec producer of the show - was joined by Joy and Elisabeth and explained to the audience what happened, and why they had to get rid of Star, and the plan going forward. It was quick and to the point - and then they continued with the show. But they removed the elephant in the room right away. (Walters did something similar when Rosie left a year later - Walters even cut her vacation short to return to the show and address the audience. Classy.)
Sara Gilbert is still listed as an exec producer, and she has taken credit for 'creating' this monstrosity. So really, she should return on Monday and explain what has happened, why they removed Osbourne, and what the plan is going forward. Only she should be addressing the audience - no one else (certainly not Sheryl or any of the other hosts).
That's what they should do. What they will do is a whole other story.
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Yes, once again a reminder that 'The View' (in it's 24th Season) is the #1 daytime talk show this season. They have beaten out 'The Real', 'Wendy', 'Dr. Phil', 'Kelly Clarkson', 'Kelly & Ryan', 'Today with Hoda and Jenna', 'Ellen', 'Drew Barrymore', 'Tamron Hall', 'Rachel Ray', 'GMA 3', and especially 'The Talk' (which is hanging by a thread in last place, despite all the publicity over their racist host).
You really think ABC is going to mess with what they have ? Believe me - they want the letters flying in, demanding that Meganutz be fired 'or else' ! They're loving it - it's confirmation they're doing something right, and for every letter they receive, their ratings have gone up further. If you've noticed, their advertising time seems to have increased (it feels like 45 minutes of show, 15 minutes of ads) - I wonder if it's because more advertisers want in, and they had to make room for them. After all, they are paying a premium to ABC to air on the #1 daytime show.
My advice to everyone is to sit back and enjoy, or tune out and see if it has any effect on the ratings (it won't). Meganutz isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
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7 minutes ago, catlover79 said:
Maybe the viewers need to start writing to the show's sponsors to complain about The Princess. If the sponsors actually watch her and see what we see, they can complain to ABC. If the sponsors are unhappy and ABC sees dollar signs potentially going bye-bye, they'll think twice about keeping her on.
Sponsors are watching - and they love every minute of her on the show. They are slapping the execs of ABC on the backs, and telling them 'great hire'. Ratings are through the roof in the show's 24th season - why would sponsors ask ABC to get rid of her ? No sponsors are unhappy, no money is going bye-bye. You can write all the letters you want about Meganutz, but she's not going anywhere.
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47 minutes ago, Tammy12 said:
I thought Sara's thoughts on the passport were the most in line with my own and very well put.
I found her to be vapid and boring. This is why I usually don't watch live, but DVR - so I can FF her responses. (This week I've been watching live).
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3 hours ago, catlover79 said:
Have we heard anything about a new co-host yet, or are we just going to learn who it is when the next new episode airs on Monday?
It was reported this weekend the show will return with the four hosts (how boring will this be?) on Monday. They have guests hosts scheduled after that for the foreseeable future. I guess they don't want any guest host on Monday, and I can't blame them - why put someone in the cross hairs when discussing why Osbourne is gone ?
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So Whoopi goes to Sara after the commercial break (because Meganutz had to respond before commercial break, taking over Sara's time) and Sara blabbers on and on about the vax passport, putting everyone to sleep. She's finished, and an exhausted Whoopi looks into the camera and says, 'Uh..ok...' and moves the show along.
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Ahhh...Meganutz has gone back to the janky extensions from Dollar General, and went with the 'Ariel the Mermaid' look today.
And again, she's showing her support to 'free' the NY naval academy! What a movement to support!
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8 hours ago, MsTree said:
Thanks for all the info...very interesting, and probably why I didn't enjoy the movie as much as I thought I might. And at the risk of sounding like a broken record, I still contend she definitely did not deserve the title "Genius" as the movie bestowed. Now if there was a series titled "Bitch", she'd be Number One with a bullet.
Most of this info - especially her history with Streisand in the 60s at Columbia - is detailed in her own 1998 memoir 'From These Roots'. Much of the other info can be found in numerous interviews with, and biographies on Franklin over the years. She never hid the fact that she didn't get along with any other black women in the business - Ross, LaBelle, Knight, and especially Warwick.
She and Warwick recorded a number of the same songs, but Warwick had the most success on the Top 40). About a year before her passing, Franklin met Warwick at an event, and Warwick asked Franklin to come over and 'give her a hug' (Warwick said it was a gesture to let bygones be bygones, as she realized the two of them weren't getting any younger). Witnesses say Franklin told her to 'stay away' from her, and later publicly continued a feud with her from years ago. Warwick ignored her.
In the 70s, after seeing Streisand star as Fanny Brice and Ross star as Lady Day, Franklin wanted to break into movies with a 'musical biopic'. Rumors were floating around that she was going to play Ethel Waters, and an Oscar was sure to follow. However, the project was never created for Franklin, and she chose 'Sparkle' instead. She blamed Ross for wanting the 'Waters' biopic for herself (Ross denied this - she wanted her next film to be on Josephine Baker) and Franklin never forgave her. (Later, Diahann Carroll was rumored to star in the project, but the project was shelved indefinitely). Again - an important setback in Franklin's career, but never mentioned in the movie ?
This 8 hour movie seemed to ignore more of Franklin's life than it included.
1 hour ago, lovinbob said:I don't understand why they used actual footage of Aretha with Annie Lennox but went back to Cynthia Erivo and NotGeorge Michael for Knew You Were Waiting. Very odd choice.
I believe that all had to do with getting the license agreement from her duet partner. George Michael's estate most likely declined the licensing agreement, so they couldn't use the footage.
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What is it with every politician who goes on the show feels the need to pay homage to her father ? Is that part of the deal when they book them?
1 hour ago, Haleth said:Personally I’m reaching for the brain bleach after hearing about Whoopi sharing her vibrators.
That comment deserved a smirk at most or an eye roll. Sara acted like it was the funniest thing she ever heard in her life. Again - is she 14 telling jokes in the cafeteria with her friends and one of them said 'vibrator' ?
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I just finished the series, and all I can say is the producers did their best to put Franklin's life through the 'positive' spin cycle in the washer, and take out as many stains in her life as possible.
For example, her tenure at Columbia Records: When Aretha was first signed to Columbia, they promised they would make her their premiere artist as they were looking for 'new' in the 1960s. Shortly after she signed, Barbra Streisand was signed to the label and she took the spotlight away from Franklin. This did not sit well at all with Franklin, and caused a 'frosty' relationship between the two new artists. This also caused a war between Franklin and Columbia, as Franklin claimed the label was favoring Streisand and ignoring her (Streisand was recording 'tin pan alley' songs and Broadway tunes, while Franklin was recording R&B and soul music). Franklin left Columbia mainly because of this favoritism towards Streisand, while Streisand has been with them for nearly 60 years. The movie never addressed this.
In the 60s, Franklin was not the only black female singer breaking out onto the charts. Dionne Warwick, Gladys Knight, Patti LaBelle, Tina Turner and especially Diana Ross were taking over the Billboard charts in pop, R&B, and Soul. There was a lot of jealousy between Franklin and these ladies (especially Dionne) over the success they had and she didn't - and Franklin had notorious feuds with them till her dying day. She could be very nasty to each of them -even when they were all in their 70s. The movie never addressed this.
By the early 70s, Franklin was notoriously envious of the movie careers of Streisand and Ross. (Streisand was an Oscar winner for her debut in 'Funny Girl' back in 1969, and Ross was nominated for an Oscar in 1973 for 'Lady Sings the Blues'). Franklin wanted to be like them and break out into Hollywood - she had the flop 'Sparkle' instead of an Oscar-worthy role. She wasn't too pleased about that, either. (Gladys Knight also tried to break into acting in 1975, with no luck starring in the bomb 'Pipe Dreams'). Again, the movie barely mentioned her failed acting career.
In 1980, she signed to Arista AFTER Dionne Warwick signed in 1978. There was a bitter rivalry between the two divas during their years there, no matter how much Clive Davis tried to keep the attention on them equal and positive. All hell broke loose when Warwick's cousin Whitney Houston signed on in 1985, and Houston took the spotlight away from Franklin (though Houston only spoke of 'Auntie Ree' respectively). Occasionally, Franklin would say nice things about Houston when put on the spot, but while Houston was getting heavy promotion from Arista and MTV, Franklin was pushed to the side - none of her albums after 1984's 'Who's Zoomin' Who' matched the success of WZW once Houston joined the label. Houston even did a duet with Franklin for Franklin's album 'Through The Storm' in 1987 (a duet which Franklin would not allow Houston to put on any of her albums, even though they shared the same label) but Arista was promoting Houston's solo success and the duet flopped big time, while Houston's solo singles were hitting #1. This cooled her relationship with Houston after that (she asked Houston to stop calling her 'Auntie Ree' and stop saying she was Houston's Godmother) - but the movie never mentioned Whitney Houston. (Franklin didn't show up to Houston's funeral in 2012 and sing as promised, using an excuse she was ill , due to her rivalry with Houston. The movie never addressed this. )
Aside from Houston challenging her on the pop charts, there was also the comeback of Tina Turner in 1984-89 who grabbed all the attention. There was no love lost between Franklin and Turner over the years, and Turner was now in the spotlight. (Rumor has it that 'Sisters Are Doin' It For Themselves' was written as a duet between Turner and Franklin, but Franklin didn't want to work with Turner - so Lennox took over for Turner).
More than anything else, by all accounts Franklin's career and her success was driven by anger, envy and jealousy of other women in the business. That's who she was, and that is what drove her. Despite the recognition, despite the titles, despite her own successes, she wanted the success that others had - from Streisand to Houston.
So if you're looking for a movie which only shows a positive light on Franklin, making her out to be a very 'positive person' who took everything in stride and got along with everyone - this is for you. If you're looking for a more true account, this is not for you.
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How old is Sara ? 15? She still keels over with laughter at the mention of the word 'vibrator' ?
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Thank heavens Meganutz ditched her make-up kit from Crayola this week, and threw the janky hair extensions from Dollar General into the trash. She looks 'attractive' for the second day this week.
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17 minutes ago, ifionlyknew said:
It was in February 2020. I remember him being on but I had forgotten how much he monopolized the conversation. Joy even asked him if he was doing a stump speech.
She may have forgotten that EVERY politician who goes on the show does their stump speech, to be fair.
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When Gaetz was the guest, Meganutz had plenty of opportunity to let him know 'everyone in the capitol knows you're a pervert and sex offender' but she didn't.
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3 hours ago, statsgirl said:
I was disappointed in Dr. Murthy failing to answer questions today. Whoopi asked about not taking other medications before getting the vaccine something about not needing to. The reason is because at least 2 studies have found that if you take drugs like Tylenol or Advil that lower your fever, the immune response is not as strong as it would have been if you hadn't taken it. He also talked around Sunny's question of whether this vaccine should be on the list of required vaccinations for school instead of answering it directly.
I was very unimpressed with him. Not a good guest at all. Some people are just awkward when being interviewed on television - especially when it's not part of their job, and they're not used to it. For most celebs and politicians - sure, they can handle interviews. For someone like him, not at all. They come off as uncomfortable in front of the camera.
Add to this the fact that because of his job, he's very guarded in what he says - he has to be as vague as possible. Which is why when Sarah asked him her idiotic question, he was probably thrilled - he just had to be put a positive spin on the vaccine, which is his job. As for Sunny and Whoopie's questions - he will dance around those.
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53 minutes ago, Haleth said:
I had to laugh about eyewear and skin care products as O deals of the day. Just what you wanted to see, Let’s. 🤣
Thats an interesting sweater Adam is wearing.
He should end the segment with "You know the drill. You have 24 hours to order and take advantage of these View Your Deals. After that, call your credit card companies and let them know you will have to declare bankruptcy. But get Oprah's favorite readers first! "
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Yes, indeed. A month too late - Osbourne should have been part of this in-service the day after the fiasco. She may still be part of the show today if they included her. Or may not - depending on how the show went.