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To be fair, the guy who plays Gregory Manes is half First Nation Canadian, everything else, you´re absolutely right, Tyler Blackburn is not Indigenous, definitely not half Native American, nor he has any real attachment to Indigenous culture. I was also surprised they cast Amber as Mexican American, tbh Jeanine is kind of an odd choice, sure she´s Latina, but she´s a direct descendant of the Cuban white elite that came to the States as asylum seekers during the early stages of the Cuban revolution...so when I see her and Nathan together playing Liz and Max, I really don´t see much of a difference in terms of race. Being an ally to a specific marginalized group should never be an excuse to marginalize and erase other underrepresented groups, if you put people down in order to lift others up, you´re a garbage person, period. I think people like Carina fail upwards, she´ll soon be writing for another show, even if it´s on the downlow.
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holy smokes! this is some comeuppance, funny she deleted the tweets about Ruby Rose...about Nathan, he´s not that active on social media, so who knows, what I know is he was and probably still is an All Lives Matter hashtagger, so for Carina to have been so close to him and claim to be so close to Amell, who is so blatantly ignorant and bigoted it´s astounding, to this day, says a lot about Carina´s performative wokeness.
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So much this, she saw this coming, prior to the episode airing she was teasing " a lot of people are going to want to talk to me about SOME THINGS in the episode" her oh people are so mean/ I never said I was woke charade is quite shameful, I´m against bullying and harassment, but people who do those things aren´t right in the head to begin with, so if it´s true people are telling her to kill herself, that´s wrong. I´ve seen people giving very polite and respectful criticism, though, and reminding her she has told the fandom time and time again her work was up for criticism, so now changing the tune and whining, and alluding to her mental health, which to my knowledge never mentioned prior to this, and how she has no access to her support system at a time like this, when so many people are going through hell, it´s quite distasteful really, she´s only interested in your opinion if you praise her for, I´m paraphrasing, bringing an underrepresented minority to the screen ( polyamorous folk) which, is that what´s going on here? I don´t think it is, at all. These are three adults who should have had a conversation, like adults. Are they going to blame it on the meteor shower? Is Michael going to act like a jealous ass when Alex gets together with Forrest? I bet he will.
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Yeah, if it was a threesome, how does that help solve the messines amongst them? If, on the other hand, was some kind of tag-team sex fest, does Michael grade them individually and that´s part of his decision? Apprehensive is a better word, considering she initiated this. Was she doubting her decision at that point? I hope so, instead of giving that crossing the line question to Michael, maybe have her say something instead?
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I completely respect your opinion, but in this instance, there was this conscious effort to present Alex and Michael as the ultimate star crossed lovers, destined to be together, etc, so when they first had a fallout and Maria and Michael first got together, back in season one, there was backlash, and right from that moment the dynamic was inbalanced, as in Maria as a character didn´t stand a chance to be on equal footing, and the love triangle or whatever was inbalanced from the get go. My complaint before this episode was always how they managed to completely sideline Maria, who´s coincidentally the only black character, so for me personally, my criticism comes from feeling the cards she´s been dealt are shitty from the beginning...also, I respectfully object to solving personal issues and tangled relationships with sex...they could have just talked about it as adults, sure Alex being in a threesome doesn´t negate his sexuality, but what about his friendship with Maria? What about it all being a test? Isn´t that hurtful?
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Yes, this is exactly it...for me it´s also Michael is the one who gets to question whether they have crossed a line, meanwhile Maria is waiting in the trailer, expectant. For those who see this as not so much a threesome, but both Alex and Maria having sex with Michael separately, isn´t that even worse? The two of them taking turns to pleasure Michael, whose depiction is more and more ridiculous as time goes on... Whether or not a shocking scene makes for good tv, when it´s at the expense of an already marginalized character, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth...don´t present a coupling as "cosmic" and endgame, and then have the one character who is in the dark about the main plot for almost 2 seasons and consistently sidelined be the one looking bad, because one doesn´t have to be too smart to know the storm of hatred this would cause. Yes, nobody held anybody at gunpoint, but there was a a lot of prodding going on. Oh, give her time, lol. She´s been surprisingly quiet about the whole threesomegate...the moment she saw negative reactions, she changed the subject and now all she talks about is Liz and Max´s meet cute, and his amnesia, blablabla Edit: Actually not that quiet...she´s complaining it sucks, and if someone wants to post criticism on her feed, to go elsewhere,she´s been sharing messages from polyamorous folk who saw themselves represented in that scene...which, fair enough, but since they are clearly not going the polyamorous route...does it really count? Anyways, she says she wanted to do something nice for Heather, the writers, Alex, and Michael, since they have, surprise, been getting a lot of hate...did she really think everybody was going to be cool with this?
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Roswell, New Mexico Spoilers and Speculation
Bloga replied to Chas411's topic in Roswell, New Mexico
I have seen some promo pictures for next week's episode, and I realized Max has been wearing lots of blue since he got back, hmmmm -
But can Alex and Maria be seen equally as poc, though? Genuinely asking. On another note, it seems like it was Carina´s idea that Maria starts wearing her hair natural after she finds out about the aliens...I don´t know what to make of it, other than Heather is BEAUTIFUL
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Roswell, New Mexico, Roswell (OG) and Roswell High
Bloga replied to tessaray's topic in Roswell, New Mexico
Zorra is definitely an insult in my circle, as in whore, so I didn´t like it one bit, but anyways... -
https://the-daily-popcast-with-lance-bass.simplecast.com/episodes/the-one-with-jeanine-mason-NQAhRtoM Jeanine was on Lance Bass´ podcast yesterday, in case anyone wants to give it a listen.
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Yes, sorry, I didn´t mean to say it is what I personally believe, I mean it´s how it´s been perceived...I agree with you, this isn´t Roswell, this is a soap opera with aliens and not so veiled racism sprinkled all over, sorry if I didn´t make myself clear...
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I don´t think she cares what other people think, period. She likes what she likes and her very twisted version of wokeness doesn´t admit criticism ( she´s now saying she never said she was woke, okayyy). I think she gives this vibe of the whole writing process being collaborative and how the actors have a say...but ultimately it´s her vision, is that a reflection of her own personal views? I don´t know, for starters she has a very twisted idea of intimacy, something like sex as the ultimate expression of love between life-long friends? Something like elevating a bisexual man as the ultimate ideal everybody should chase after and feel honored to share, what?
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I think you´re right on the money re: consent. They have made such a huge deal of making sure Max doesn´t take advantage of the effect the handprint has on Liz, but everybody else, including Max, is fair game. Like you said, hands healed against will, keeping people in the dark even when their lives have been in danger, bringing people back to life against their will, this whole messy mess with Alex, Michael, and Maria. That interview is...something else. It does contradict the enthusiastic consent defense Carina has tried to peddle, but even without that interview, who saw enthusiasm in that scene?
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Also I don't think it's fair to compare Isobel and Alex, those defending the threesome and saying people are biased because they are not outraged by Isobel's lesbian encounter seem to overlook the fact that Isobel had a fling with someone she had no attachment to, a stranger...whereas Alex and this whole cosmic love, starcrossed lovers deal he has with Michael, added to the fact that Maria is pretty much family to him, equal an unnecessary messy mess that doesn't solve anything, puts Alex in a really sad situation, and paints Maria as incredibly insensitive and, the morning after with that scene in the semidark inside the trailer, as nefarious, as it's all part of her machinations to make Michael choose. So it's not fair to compare the two situations. You're right, also I forgot about the Writer's strike! It's been postponed I believe, but once things go back to normal it may be a problem.
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I understand what you are saying, but after reading the interview, it seems like this was the intention, to pretty much throw Maria under the bus once again. I doubt Michael and Tyler will be asked about it, they threw that load on Heather, I hope it doesn´t get too bad for her.