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Yay! I'm glad I am not the only one who thinks this!

What reduced me to a puddle was Daryl's reaction to seeing her!

Laurie Holden is almost 45. Melissa McBride is 50. Sarah Wayne Callies is 37. I am so thrilled that women "of a certain age" are in this show and are playing characters that are so complex. I'm even more thrilled that Carol is still on the show and looks to be staying.

I don't think Shane was wrong to think this. I did, too. And, given all that had just happened between the two of them, I think Rick was okay with just leaving. But when Rick got back to where the vehicle was and saw the the two cops (who may have been partners in preZA days), he knew he couldn't just leave Shane. He had to save him even though it would seriously complicate life back on the farm to return with him after the brawl. But that is Rick's character and the story line.

I tend to knit or do other things while watching TV, so I did not see all the nuances in the conversation/fight between Andrea and Lori about Shane. I heard the significant emphasis on the word "boyfriend" when Andrea was taking Lori to task and wondered if she got the reaction she was looking for. I should go back and re-watch. I am certain that Andrea would probably have thrown her fling with Shane at Lori at some point down the line if things hadn't changed so dramatically. However, if Lori had lived, and Shane hadn't been knifed and shot, and Andrea hadn't been separated after the horde came through, there would have been another triangle to deal with. I'm glad the show just killed them all off.

I see that, but she also just told Rick that Shane was dangerous and wanted Rick's family for himself. Someone in the forums said she went Lady MacBeth and that seems to fit. I think she liked the drama that centered around her. I thought Andrea's truth telling to Lori after leaving Beth alone to decide whether to live or not was accurate. Andrea would know!! I thought that when Rick told her what had happened with Shane, her physical reactions were telling. She raised her head off his shoulder, then let go of him, then backed away a bit, then started looking around, then entirely lost it when Rick told her that Carl had to put Shane down. I think she was okay with Rick killing Shane but not her son.

I think Herschel and Daryl's accents were spot on. I also think Rick has such a difficult time with his son's name because folks who speak the Queen's English don't really have "r"s in their speech. They tend to do the Bahston thing and make "r"s "ah"s. I think Andrew Lincoln was just overemphasizing the "r" in Carl's name to make up for it.

I think in that moment, Rick may have thought that he deserved it. He had just killed his partner and best friend. Take away all the mitigating circumstances and stand there with him. He had just put a knife in the gut of one of the people in the world who knew him best. And was okay with it. Then, he turns and sees his impressionable young son standing there as a witness. All the reasons for killing Shane - which were pretty darn good and long overdue, in my opinion - fly out the window because his kid had just seen him murder a person they had all known and loved. When Carl raised the pistol and Rick began sputtering, I can see just a moment where he thinks to himself, well, damned if I don't deserve this end. When Carl shoots past him to put Shane down, he is confused and it takes a while for him to realize what he had just seen. On another note, I blame Lori for Shane flipping out. After the battle with Rick while in the police yard, Shane seemed to have come to a resolution regarding his relationship with the Grimes family. If given enough time, he would have left the group to start over elsewhere, possibly taking Andrea with him. When Lori went over to him and "made nice", it slipped his gears and he went nuts. What on earth was she thinking?

I suppose this can be attributed to logic, but I got the distinct impression at the time that they were simply panicked. I think if they were thinking logically, they would have u-turned the Cowboys - who were standing right there - but chose instead to go with the Afghanimals who were nowhere to be seen. It strikes me that they reacted to the u-turn out of their own injured sense of self and wanted to hit back. The logical choice would have been the Cowboys, but since there were standing right there watching them make their decision, they wussed out and used it on a team that wouldn't SEE them use it. Then, as they were on their way, Leo and Jamal were suddenly there and were going to discover what they had done, so to cover their reaction, they attempted to smooth it over by helping them through the task and raised their own war-cry about the indecency of being u-turned themselves. Deceive and deflect. I don't think the Country Girls or the Globetrotters entered their equations at all.

Did anyone else see Bugs Bunny massaging Elmer Fudd's head during the shaving task? Just me? Okay.

This is a good point which you completely negate with - What was that about defining merits? Some people see whining and hypocrisy - let them and stop defining the terms of what others may think.

I stepped out of the room for a minute - dinnertime! - and when I came back, there was a dead woman hanging from the ceiling. I thought, "How did the dog change the channel to one of those police procedural shows?" I was thrown off a bit, for certain. I am also confused about the whole marijuana plot line. Did it get resolved? Or was this a way to get Owen back on screen? It seemed to evaporate after the intervention.

Dave, grow up. I loved the classic cars! I think, based on his reaction at the mat, Dave thought they had won one of those cars. He jumps to conclusions pretty quickly, obviously. I found myself feeling the effects of altitude watching the teams slog their way to the mat with Phil. Whoo wee, 10K feet? Zounds! I also thought Jet's comment at the hotel was a joke so it didn't bug me. What DID bug me was that it was another non-elimination round. FFS. Dave, grow up.

After Peter hung up on the conversation with the senator, I had to fan myself. Mercy! But then, Chris Noth, I mean - mmmmMMMM.

You are a 60 year old man, Dave? Really?

I signed up at TWoP in 2005 but had been reading the forums since Shack re-capped the first season of American Idol. Miss Alli was teh bomb and Jacob and M. Giant - oh, I will miss them... I'm so glad this place exists!