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Apparently doctor boyfriend is oblivious to the fact that music/musicians have the ability to "save lives" too. ;)

Well, another season of this increasingly hot mess of a franchise is in the books. I'm not around social media very much, I've seen enough to want to stay out of the petty ridiculousness that often surrounds it, especially as it relates to all things celebrity. So, it's kind of nice to come here and participate in some rather level-headed, mature, humorous discussion regarding this manipulated fluff of shows. :)

About 30 seconds in, I had to switch to an old ep of Criminal Minds, I couldn't stand listening to Jade's baby voice any more and I just didn't care enough to see it through (I'd read spoilers anyway). Sad to say BiP was less entertaining than I'd hoped. And my hopes weren't high to begin with.

I don't join the Kirk hate. Probably because I've had a few boyfriends disappear without a peep, no decency to say they wanted out of the relationship...so I don't see it as all bad that Kirk tried, awkwardly, to explain his feelings of pulling away. No matter what he said or when or however sincerely, it was going to hurt. No surprise so many men (and women) are hesitant to open up and talk, if they've been disparaged for doing so. And, it's hypocritical to think it's always the other person who's making missteps in a relationship. Please no more Sean and Catherine.

Bugs, thanks for the link to the Auburn paper's interview with Ashley S. I wonder if TB is still her favorite show now that she's seen behind the curtain. She further confirmed why I would never want to appear on a so-called reality show, you have no control over what is shown and the character they create for you. It must suck for some of these people to have an advanced degree and/or your own business etc. and be portrayed as little more than a dimwit/villain/cuckoo. But this franchise has been around for a while, so none of them should be surprised, so there's that. Fame is a bitch. I learned more about Sam in her five-second exchange shown with Dan about Indian food and what she does for a living than I have all season. That's apparently all the real-life reality the Show will allow per person. And I had high expectations (what was I thinking?) for Ashley's I's proclamation letter to Jared, given her Master's in Journalism.

I can't believe I watch them, either. And then post my thoughts about them. haha

At the end of the show when everyone was mixing and hugging, it appeared Jared and Ashley weren't too motivated to exchange a glance with each other, let alone talk. I won't read much into that (they probably talked moments later that we didn't see), but I did notice he never(?) says anything bad about AI.

Jaclyn was a breath of fresh air, coming in and not giving a f*ck, it was funny. After weeks of weeping and drama, it was a nice change. It would've been interesting to see what she would've done with Jared. He really doesn't seem enthused about Ashley I, Jaclyn got that right. Why be attached to AI, I don't see "couple" with them at all so why join her in a fantasy suite. Ew. Men are giving roses this time, so it's not even a strategic move.

I think Nick could've been an entertaining Bachelor if they gave him a crop of more intelligent, conversational, sporty, artsy types over the vacuous, pageanty, drama queen dime-a-dozens they cast so many of. [eta: And throw in a sex coach contestant, like Kaitlyn had in her batch of guys. heh] Ben will wade through a lot of women he typically wouldn't have much interest in if he was out on his own meeting them, since the Show casts more for ratings than who may appeal to the Bachelor/ette. Because their 'finding love with a husband/wife they can see in the room' theme is b.s. ;) Which is not to say I won't tune in. Ha!

I see Samantha resembling the Wicked Witch and Joe her Flying Monkey.

I don't suppose we're NOW done hearing about the Joe-Juelia saga?! Please put it to rest. Please. And the Joe-Samantha plot too.

I initially fell for the Nick fake-out because I was paying more attention to the computer screen than the tv screen. I can't multitask! ha I'm cool with Ben H being TB, hope his appeal holds throughout the season.

Michelle's head and limbs look a lot larger than everyone else's on the panel. When they were standing around before the start of the show, I'd have guessed she was in the 6'5 range. eta: She is almost as tall as Ben, it looked like at the end, so I'm not far off. Look forward to seeing how things pan out for Ben H on TB. I hope he gets better-quality women than the norm for this franchise!

I was googling Michelle Collins because I've never heard of her and was wondering how giant she is...looked up to see "Ashley I and Carly never participated"...what was the first part of the statement I missed as the show went to commercial? My opinion that this After show is lame still holds.

The "save Juelia" storyline was b.s. Dating in this paradise isn't a very solid option for a single mother looking for love, and certainly not the only option (did I hear Carly right??). I hope Juelia doesn't fall for Mikey, only to have a new woman arrive and hook him. But then maybe she'll head home to her daughter? I don't get a feel for the alleged strong friendship between Juelia and Samantha prior to their BiP appearances.