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I thought Paige looked awful & am puzzled why everyone thinks she looked so good. Her hair was a huge rat's nest or like it had been in chlorine all day. I usually go for the scruffy look, but her hair looked all kinds of weird. But def an improvment over the bangs and short hair she had when we first met her. This ep was kind of boring. And I got an "up to something" vibe with Ali when she was talking to Fitz. She seemed to be threatening/warning him in a vague undertoned way. I couldn't figure out what was going on there. In the beginning with Ali on her bed I too thought it was Hanna. I'm really beginning to dislike Ali. At first I was excited that we'd see more of her because the actress is so good, but everything is so vague and sinister and seems to go nowhere I kept falling asleep.

Writing Wrongs, that was my favorite line in the entire episode. Love Hanna. I wondered the same thing about Alison, was she smiling as they removed her mom's dead body? I don't know if the dad was in season 1 as I didn't see the first few eps. I think I came into the show during ep 3 or 4. Did they use the same actor? Speaking of Allie's dad, I wondered if he wanted Ashley to figure out how to get into her bank account or he just wanted her to look for clues as to where she may be. I love the dog, but I worry for him. I hope we don't get to see his demise. The only downside of bringing pets into the show. Otto, do you mean like Mrs. D's twin sister? I thought that Allie was dressed like A because she was hiding from reporters, etc. I didn't realize that she did look like A or an A clone during those scenes where she was wearing the hood. Good catch. Lorikauai, yeah, I expected Allie to remove something from the doll too. And what was with her in the mortuary with the rose?

Ladle, seeing the first few eps would not have helped your confusion at all. You didn't miss anything. You ask a good question. I've seen all the eps and I don't know the answer to it.

I'm happy for CT that he's with someone he loves, but I still think she's going to break his heart. Ultimately, I don't think she thinks he's good enough for her.

Sounds like we finally get to meet the dad. This should be good. I'd forgotten that there was one.

I wish Nani hadn't caved too. Would have been AWESOME if CT got to sit down & Johnny & Nani had to go up there. Nani caved because she's a wuss. Didn't surprise me. She didn't want Johnny coming after her. He seems like a total pain in the ass if you go against him. What was their reasoning for voting Cara in anyway? I didn't notice the Boston in Cara's voice. I may have to rewatch. I was surprised to read that she & CT grew up in the same area as I've never heard Boston in Cara. And CT's is so pronounced.Seeing the show after this, that fan favorite thing, I liked how CT said he liked thinking of himself as being the old man. I was surprised that Johnny voted him in. Mojo, your comment about CT not being an asshole reminded me that on the showafter they showed his fight with Adam and he's changed so much (for the better) over the years. It's hard to remember that version of CT. I like the strong,mellow silent CT of recent years so much better. I'd like to see more puzzles too. I was shocked that Johnny actually got through one. I love the relationship between Cara & CT. What a breath of fresh air to see 2 challenger who sincerely seem to like each other & in a non-sexual way. Theresa is a touch competitor, but at that point I think Camilla was done before the ilimination even started. I saw it as kind of an easy win. You could tell that Camilla had nothing left. She was a wreck before the elimination even started.Are Zack & Johnny Reilly from Boston too? I don't know much about either of them. I would love to see Laurel throw the win to Cara, but what are the chances of that? I have visions of her breaking Cara's other hand in this elimination.

I loathe Snookie. I almost turned this off, but I am a Challenge junkie. Apparently. I didn't mind seeing Kenny. I kind of miss Mr. Beautiful and seeing Johanna was a shock. She hasn't been around in ages. Didn't her and Kenny hook up? Didn't Wes fight him over it? Or am I thinking of another chick? Some of these girls all blend into one. I wonder if that was a recent talking head of CT because he looks better without the beard. He really still seems to care for Diem (yuck) and seem to get all misty eyed remembering. Johnny Backpack never gets old. I kind of like Abram. He is fucking nuts & I enjoyed the challeng where he and Cara got together. I miss Katie too. Some of the crazy ones I've become fond of (against my will & better judgement) over the years. Still can't stand Veronica. Loved that messing with her harness this time around too. Although that was pretty evil. Yeah, I liked Zack in his talking heads. He's so much better without Frank who is the challenger I loathe the most. I'm shocked that Laurel can draw the line. I'm hoping (insane I know) that she throws the elimination so Cara can stay. Or what are the chances she breaks Cara's other hand?

Thank you for the answer to my question, I'd forgotten that we learned Mona helped Ali because Ali told us she did. And far can we trust Ali? I'm curious to see where Ali will live when they return to Rosewood as her mom is now dead. Or at least we think she is. And what is it that Mr. Hastings doesn't want Melissa to tell Mrs. Hastings? I think Lucas looks different because the actor has matured a bit rather than gotten a new haircut. He also looks taller.

Didn't Mona Initially help Alison to hide back in the beginning? Something we found out last season. And now suddenly Mona's all, let's get her. Makes no sense (not that this is the show to watch if you're looking for things to make sense). She had Ali at her mercy when she was helping her to hide. Let's all pray that the actor who plays Ezra gets bored this season now that he's no longer the villian & decides to leave the show (again) cause it's the only way we're getting rid of Ezra.

Jessica seems really stupid. I'm glad she's gone & hope we don't see her again on the next challenge.

When the episode opened with the 2 criminals on the run I didn't know what was going on. I was quite surprised when one of them was revealed to be another clone. I couldn't figure out the deal with this clone then. I thought maybe she was a butch Lesbian from Chicago/mid west somewhere. As the episode went on though I remained confused but realized my gender mistake. I didn't notice any "package." When Chaz Bono was being interviewed he indicated that the surgery for that still isn't a good option so I didn't even bother to look for this. I'm willing to go where they take me, this show is that good, so I wasn't too concerned about whether Tony was believable or not. I thought they did spend too much time with him. And during that Felix kiss all I could think of is, I bet Jordan is loving this because he really raves about TM, this must be a dream come true. So, with that alone, maybe I wasn't really buying this clone if my mind was more on the actors themselves than the part they were playing. I expect more from this show than to introduce Tony just to give us the info about Paul being a ghost. Too much time was spent with Tony for that to be his only purpose. I did think it was surprising, but cool that they introduced another clone this late in the season. Maybe we've become too complacent with the clones we already have & tossing another one into the mix makes you wonder how many others are out there, who are they & will we get to meet them and when. Shakes things up a bit. I completely bought the outfit (but yeah, not the hair) Tony had on. I know too many people who dress like that.

Yeah, I agree. I like Devyn. Wasn't overly fond of her during her season (which was the last Real World I saw), but after seeing her on these challenges I find that she has a great sense of humor and good attitude about herself.

They're certainly making it look like Cara leaves, the impression I got from the Aftershow at the very end when they showed a clip of next week. Laurel was trying hash it out with her and Cara wasn't having it. It looked like she on her way out the door with her stuff. I hope that was a total mislead because I'd love to see Cara win. I have no words for Laurel. I can't believe they were geniune friends in the first place. I only cut Laurel slack because of how she stood up for Cara during that whole Wes/soda scene on a previous challenge. Would like to see Cohutta return. And also found it curious that Mosely did not ask Nani on the Aftershow if her & Cohutta were still in contact after the Challenge. It seems like an obvious omission.

That's a very good point, Zuleikha. I hadn't considered that. I guess probably because I like Art a hell of a lot more than Angie. He could be considered a dirty cop although I've never looked at him as such.

Thanks, System. I'd forgotten all about that. Who knows what Angie would do with any info she acquired. Art could find himself out of a job and under investigation.

Thanks, Lantern. Way too much Bachelorette.:)

Lucky, that's exactly how I saw it. :)

As to why Art doesn't bring Angie in, I don't think he trusts her enough. Beth & Art covered each other's butts on that Maggie Chen shooting & I don't think Art is about to trust Angie with that info. Since then Art has gotten way more involved than he probably wants a co-worker to know about.

I loved this challenge, the funniest one I've ever seen, I think (well, excluding Johnny Backpack). I'm really impressed/proud of Cara coming in 2nd. Didn't think she had it in here. She's really doing well this time around. I hope it continues and she makes it to the finals. Leroy was amusing on the aftershow & I can see why everyone likes him. Not sad to see the end of Jordan.

It was great seeing Brad last night. He looks good, he sounds good. I still feel sorry for him that he's married to what's her name. Love to see him in the challenge again. I'd also like to see Derrick as the Challenge vet Mosely interviews next. It's great that some of these past challengers have grown beyond this, but some of them I'd like to see come back for one last call.

It looked to me, too that Cal might know something about Dyad & I like the suspense of that. How is he possibly connected to them? And when we first saw the Leda picture, didn't the woman in it look like Mrs. S, but now we know it to be Rachel's mother? Am I understanding this correctly? Because Sarah didn't seem to blink when she connnected the picture to the 2 scientists killed in the bombing. Didn't she think that was Mrs. S? Didn't it look more like Mrs. S the first time we saw it? And the woman scientist it looks like it ended up being doesn't really look anything at all like Mrs. S. I had a hard time following Cosima's info about the 2 scientists and how they raised Rachel. (She just seemed to rattle it off so quickly). She was not their biological child? Is she the original clone? Did they make Rachel in the lab? Where did the original genetic material come from? Great episode, but I really miss the clones being together like they were some of last season. And definitely not enough of Felix. Not matter what Mrs. S did with the guy she met (whose name I forget) in the bar, I think she's playing him just for more info.

I like seeing the vets too. Unfortunately after watching this show for 25 seasons, get attached to some on them.

I have never liked Jasmine, but seeing her going into the elimination with Laurel really made me sad for her. I think she handled it well and better than I expected. It was the first time I actually liked her. I'm not buying the Jordan/Bananas feud. I think it's just put on for the show, especially on Jordan's part & Bananas, being Bananas, just went with it. CT is basically a nonentity at this point. What a difference from several years ago. Did not like the tasteless comment Isak made about not being aloud in the sandbox or schoolyard or whatever he said.

I teared up too at the ring in the wallet, however, Penny finally agreeing to marry Leonard is such a cop out on her part. Getting engaged because you have nothing else going on in your life is no reason to get engaged. Just pathetic. These past few eps (maybe even this whole season) have been a disappointment. They just seem to be treading water with storylines that go nowhere. I don't laugh as much as I use to. They seem to be trying to have a storyline, but it just isn't there or isn't working. I miss the geek stuff. Howard's mother is not funny.

Tara, thanks for the link. Wow, that pic of Aneesa, she looks like Bart Simpson. :)