Alexander Pope

I agree with everyone who has said that Madison's harping on herself as a beauty is really off-putting, and she also seems to have forgotten how proudly she owned being a party girl. But what Alan said wasn't cool. "Transactional" was definitely not the right word, and he did admit that. But the "you shake your ass in the club" line was judgmental, sexist, and possessive in a way I didn't like. He is really enraged that she doesn't vibe with him, and while I get that, I think we better put on our seatbelts because that anger is starting to come out. The fact that he had a dream while she was out after their fight that she married someone else on the show and he was forced to watch says it all. He is really mad that her sexuality is not being directed toward him, as someone else said on this thread said in so many words, and probably never will be. I think he knows, if not consciously than unconsciously, that she is cheating.

The woman born in Hawaii had way too much glitter and that fabric around her neck made her look like a bobblehead. I did appreciate that the FIR went to the farm girl with even less makeup on than the llama! and he also picked Rose who wore very little makeup. He seems to like women to look natural.

Yeah I saw that--she just can't stop twisting the knife. I feel for Allan and loved it when he said he had his own take on masculinity and was ok with it. He is wasted on her.

Also did anyone notice that even the friend who was working out with Ikechi thought he was full of it? He tried briefly to defend Emem and realized right quick that it wasn't worth it.

I don't think Emem seems desperate at all. As JenE4 said, she is letting Ikechi dig his own grave by staying poised and polite while he acts like an asshole. When she told the camera that she was going to let him make the effort now, since he didn't want her to act like a wife, she knew exactly what she was doing. She owes him nothing, and she will soon see the back of him and come out smelling like roses. Or at least that's her plan. I also thought that Carla's response to Juan's crying when reading his letter was odd. She sat there sleepy as always until he was finished, then gave him a perfunctory/listless hug. Even Madison was more affectionate to Allan when he was reading his letter! Carla and Juan have negative chemistry.

you have a point, but this is a reality TV show! where would the fun be in that!

I have been remaining silent on the Ikechi front because it just raises my blood pressure to think about him. But I was really outraged by how easy Pastor Cal was on him. Sir, you just admitted that you called your wife an asshole! and Cal, IMO, just let that slide. No expert said at any point, you can't talk like that to anyone, much less your wife! Instead they coddle him and call him sensitive. Truly outrageous. Now I am going to go calm down.

Maybe both Juan and Carla should work for Vandelay industries as importer/exporters!

yes she said she was on a full scholarship and that her dad drove three to four hours each way in one day for all her games. So she must have been a decent player.

I saw a lot more of Camille's swag when she was playing basketball--and I kind of liked it. I also enjoyed her conversation with Emem when she bonded with her about how often black women are called "aggressive." I agree that this issue with Tom has been overblown, but I did see a little more of where Camille was coming from this episode.

My favorite line of this episode, and perhaps any MAFS episode, is when Juan said about Carla, "you can be crazy but you can't be stupid." That was genius and spot on. I did like Carla a lot when she calmed Emem down however. She is business stupid, but emotionally smart.

Ikechi really outdid himself this week. He said that Emem made him feel like a piece of meat, and "violated his consent"? He is saying she assaulted him--that is what that phrase means. On the after party, he claimed he didn't say that line about consent but on the show, Dr. Pia specifically asked him if that's what he meant, and he said, "that's what I said." Then on the After Party he said, "I didn't say it, I was only agreeing." WTF??? Did Ikechi ask Emem's consent when he took her hand and put it on his crotch? I think not. He also described her as "grunting and moaning," which is demeaning and dehumanizing. I have never seen a more passive-aggressive person on this show. And there is no better way to gaslight a woman than to say that she is treating a man the way a sexist man would treat a woman. I just can't with him!!

OMG how could I have forgotten Orion and what's her name, who were insufferable each in their own ways, talked endless word salad, and could never just let it go because the producers wouldn't let them! I also thought Allen looked really attractive in this episode when the camera was close enough to show his beautiful blue eyes. meanwhile Madison looks increasingly unappealing and "hard" to me.

I agree with everyone that Camille really needs to stop negging Thomas. She is not all that. She seems very bland to me, she dresses schlumpily, and she needs a good bra. Juan at the Afterparty seemed extremely into himself to me. Nothing phases him, nothing bothers him--Carla is the only one who gets bothered. He is like teflon and his arrogant brand of "chill" would drive me crazy if I were Carla. it's like he really doesn't care.

Michelle is awful but I can see how David would be annoying too. They're in a vicious circle. He took Madison's sage advice (not) and started asking her "hard questions." Maybe he should have given her a little space and tried something less heavy. Plus, he is seething with rage, and I don't blame him. If he says "THIS MARRIAGE" one more time, I will scream. I imagine she feels the same way, hence she becomes more awful. Madison has her eye on him--mark my words.