Retired at last

Speaking of the death threats that are mentioned in reference to what would happen if Kate calls Puke out on his behavior and stands up to him, does anyone know if LUKE has been getting any? I know the show is long over, production-wise, but since the edits clearly illustrate how terrible Luke is, has he received any? I know that Kate has said that she asked him why he bought her wine if he was worried about her drinking, but that was off camera. Maybe, just maybe, she IS standing up to him off camera, but is going along with this role she has been assigned when the cameras roll. But, unfortunately, it looks like she really wanted this to be her happily ever after and is still holding on to some hope. And, her face and eyes really light up when he throws her a crumb. It just makes me so sad that she doesn't appear to see how condescending he is to her, even when all she sees is that he is being nice.

I also think that Puke went to the producers to cry "wah wah, I am feeling pressured by my "wife" to kiss her when she gets rummed up. Why isn't this being treated like anyone else in the Me, too movement?"

This is only my second season, and maybe it is a generational thing, but I noticed last time that there was always alcohol or "cocktails" in every scene that included Dave and Amber, as that was one of the only three things they had in common. To me, it was very obvious. Now, this time with Kate, yes, I have noticed that she is usually not without a drink, but that is probably the only way she can get through a day with that ass. I am sorry that they did not show Kate confronting Puke and asking him why he brought her 3 bottles of wine if he was so worried about her drinking. I think many of us are starting to lose patience with her slow pace of speech and non-emotion, and overall stupidity in thinking that this will get better. I wish the show would have pulled her out, as it is obvious she is accepting the abuse, and unwilling/unable to stop it. If it is a money thing, they should have paid her both her and Puke's contract amount and then given her the counseling she needs. At the beginning, I didn't like AJ, but then he became a little tolerable, and now he is back to "run, Stephanie, run!" for me. The painting thing was uncomfortable to watch. I still like Will and am glad he is holding out on Jasmine until she realizes that he is not going to give her what she wants until she stops being so critical of everything he says, does, or thinks. This is not a good relationship at all. Kristine and Keith are OK, but I don't think he is going to get rid of all his phone pics. I think she will realize that the is not ready for marriage yet.

I AM SO SORRY!!!!!!! I reread the description for the unfiltered show tonight and there will only be 3 guys - AJ, Keith and Luke. I am sorry for the confusion and I will quietly back away from the board!!!! Please excuse the false alarm. 😟

I don't put much past him if he thought he could make himself appear not so awful, but I didn't really think he would pull that off. Besides, then she would want him to repeat it and he couldn't.

So, in that case, I will bet that Puke will say that they did it and then Kate won't have to say that he isn't attracted to her. Also, he will somehow convince Kate that she was so drunk that she doesn't remember. OK, let's just assume the TV listing was wrong!

Thank you, @aphroditewitch. If that is the case, I would guess it would be Jasmine/Will. Unless Puke and Kate were so drunk after that dismal party adventure, they said they did?

First time poster - please be gentle! I caught this train wreck last season for the first time and for some reason I have yet to figure out, I am back again. I had to join this site because I am very confused and hope that someone can help. You know those unfiltered shows where they rehash the previous shows? Well, the one for tonight says that Jamie O is meeting with the 4 guys and talking about the first time they consummated their marriage and why ONE couple has not. Did I miss Jasmine and Will? Unless they're going to show that after he had her close the door at the end of last week's show, they did it, I was sure they hadn't yet, much to Jasmine's dismay. I am disappointed in him. She is too mean and critical of everything he does or tries to do. I thought he would hold out a lot longer. I am sure that Puke and Kate will never do that (and if they did, I would be furious that Kate would feel pressured to do that - or even allowed to lower herself even more). So, if anyone can let me know what I missed, I would appreciate it. Thanks for all the enjoyable posts and I am glad to see that my views are very similar to most of yours.