DianeDobbler

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Speaking of the characters becoming "precious" I just saw the episode showing Morello as a child receiving First Communion. Ridiculous.

Zulheika, I haven't seen the Caputo/Fischer episodes yet, so that could possibly alter my opinion. I'm not sure I agree with some of Jenji Cohen's character-point-of-view choices, because often she doesn't circle back and let us know the show doesn't really expect us to find specific character behavior root-able (Morello having Christopher beat down, and OITNB encouraging Christopher-hate in general). The actor playing Caputo kind of agrees with your point of view, and in the interview I read describes firing Fischer as knee-jerk and something he probably regretted as soon as he did it. Even though I haven't seen that episode(s), I wonder if it correlates at all to the episodes in S1 where Healey felt perversely betrayed by Piper and stuck her in SHU for homo-dancing with Alex. As I recall, Caputo called him out and made Healey get Piper out, telling Healy Piper just got under his skin, putting her in SHU was personal, and the prison was going to get in trouble. FF and Caputo lets personal feelings warp how he treats somebody under his supervision. Either here or elsewhere I mentioned that I didn't mind Healey THAT much. I hereby withdraw that and see what everybody else was saying about him. He's just that guy who, when he does "nice things" for a woman, is running up an invoice. He wants to be some benevolent figure to them, but if they don't play along, he retaliates. I suspect his hatred of lesbians is pure ego - he doesn't want these women finding comfort with each other, he wants to be some beloved, important figure to the women and maybe fantasize that they're secretly in love with him. He probably thought he and Piper had connected and she looked to him as the person in Litchfield who understood. It's all about his fantasies and ego. Maybe this is unpopular - I am so glad Pornstache is off the show. I can see that Pablo Schreiber is talented, but I just didn't enjoy the character at all. He actively got on my nerves, every single thing about him. It wasn't his behavior, per se, but the full package. P.S. I think Ruby Rose was the basest sort of stunt casting, it was exploitative, pandered to "Hot lesbians!" and although the actual script was low key, it was all about the marketing stunt, and goes against everything OITNB has been praised for being. And, speaking of the prison getting in trouble, Sophia is a former fire fighter. She's now indefinitely in SHU. Her wife is a smart woman. Surely there is some way to raise enough of a stink to make the prison get her out. The ex-firefighter stuff is journalism bait, Sophia's whole family is media-ready, and, not to be shallow, even a couple of years ago transgender issues were trending.

I found this article http://www.criminalelement.com/blogs/2014/07/orange-is-the-new-black-season-2-episode-10-little-mustachioed-shit-prison-netflix-jake-hinkson, which looks at Season 2, and the acting of Schilling, Prepon, Stone and Lyonne, to be pretty good, and insightful. The writer finds Schilling and Stone to be stronger pure actors than their on screen significant others, but considers Prepon and Lyonne, as cinematic objects and personalities, to be the perfect counterpart to Schilling and Stone, respectively. I think he's right about Schilling being really good, especially the example he used comparing her work as jailed Piper to her ten years younger self. He also thinks Piper is a much stronger character vis a vis Alex. I don't mean a stronger fictitious character, but a stronger narrative focal point.

I don't see Piper as any more complex than any other person. What I liked/was fun about her arc is she came to prison with a personality and coping/people management skills that worked beautifully in her real life, but when she applied them to prison life, she was busted immediately as somebody with no actual skills a/k/a street smarts, because she didn't need any, and that whole package attracted people's contempt, in part because she really had no answer for it. She'd never been in a situation where she had to watch what she said, or else be in big trouble - lose a job, make the wrong person angry. She had economic power and she had looks, which minimized what she hard to do to get along with other people, and she was protected from the shit other people did - didn't even interact with seriously problematic people. Not a neighbor, not a relationship, or anyone. AND she was oblivious to all of this. When Suzanne urinated in Piper and Claudette's cubicle, I don't think Claudette scoffed at Piper because that specific thing had never happened to her before, but because Piper had never had to deal with anything gross she couldn't easily escape. She saw her past experience as the norm. I don't think her problems were as profound as being more narcissistic than other people. She was sheltered, younger than her actual age and hadn't had to dig nearly as deep as some of the other prisoners. Being thin, pretty, considered charming and loveable, with an upper middle class white person's cultural frame of reference was it. In her past experience, if you're in any type of trouble, or offended someone, if a please or apology doesn't cut it, you decide what will. "Okay, we'll do this, and then we can move on, okay?" I really truly think what pissed the other inmates (and Alex) off about Piper was nothing more than ye old "privilege" and, mainly, the fact that she saw that as the norm. I really don't think Polly would have fared much better in prison. Well, maybe been less cuter than thou, and more strategic about when to chase a point, and when to shut up. Even once Piper was assimilated, her inability to own the fact that her life was full of unusual good fortune persisted, such as her admitting her home had four and a half bathrooms. That's why she was constantly called out. It's funny that Nicky probably comes from a wealthier background than Piper, but her raspy New York accent and the way she carries herself masks it. Having been a junkie gave her some rough edges and, I'll bet, some street smarts, and being raised in NYC helped there too. I'll bet she had some careless moments in her life as well, such as that flashback we saw when she left her cohorts in jail and used her mother's money to buy more junk. That can also be written off as a junkie move, not a rich girl taking her bail money for granted, though. I'm describing TV Piper, not real Piper, whom, based on the above, sounds a lot more entitled and self-enchanted than the TV Piper, with a less authentic evolution. (I found the "real" Larry almost relentlessly needy and self-absorbed in his joint interview with Jason Biggs).

I, also, like Laura Prepon's acting on this show. I think she just nails the two most important aspects of Alex - being believable as the worldly, savvy, not-much-money background, tough, cynical former drug operator - and being totally in love with Piper. Whenever she sees Piper her face and eyes become warm/happy. Even if she's wary at first, one sentence in and her face softens. Did some more reading on prisons and based on what I've read as typical prison-issue supplies, I find it difficult to believe that minimum security Litchfield doesn't issue toothbrushes and the prisoners have to get it from commissary, and if they're short-funded, they're out of luck.

Yeah, I think the Boo/Pennsatucky relationship was the best part of S3, although I don't enjoy Pennsatucky as much apart from Boo, nor Boo as much apart from Pennsatucky. Pennsatucky seems to calm Boo down and bring out a genuinely very sweet, caring part that feels natural (so it makes Lea Delaria's performance more natural, as she can telegraph stuff sometimes) and Boo humanizes and relaxes Pennsatucky, and brings out her brains and vulnerability. I hope they're a bigger part of the show next season. Caputo - I give the jerking off stuff a pass, as it was the premiere. I'm not all that strict about show "canon" because it often takes a little time for the writers to start writing "for" and actor and shaping a character. I'm happy to throw out early stuff if later writing re-sets or modulates. After watching three seasons I realize I enjoy the prisoners (save the meth heads and Norma) way more than the cos, even though the cos have some good material. Healy's quasi toxic "nice guy" routine is creepy. I wish the writing would get the needle out of the poor, poor Healy groove. While recognizing his comic chops, I just didn't enjoy Pornstache in S1 and S2. Or Bennett. Didn't like Donuts even before he turned into a rapist. Taryn Manning says the Donuts actor was pissed off when his character became a rapist, and I also got the impression the actor had just played a rapist on his previous job before OITNB. I could see him getting irritated at that particular typecasting, but he does look typecast to me, the sort of scary cliche'd inbred kinda guy you see in every "the south is scary" movie. Even though Litchfield isn't the south. Love Wanda and O'Neill, individually and together, but that's about it for the guard and admin side. Could do with less Caputo and with getting rid of Fig, while recognizing both actors are talented.

I definitely feel that in many ways Alex is home base for Piper. I recently had the chance to watch the premiere, and because it played a lot with the contrast between Piper's comfortable non-prison life and Litchfield, I experienced Litchfield as more alienating than I had when watching later episodes. Also, in the premiere OITNB played up Larry and Piper's relationship as loving, warm, supportive, and real. Even so, when Alex showed up at the very end, THAT was the moment that I felt relief for Piper, even though Piper's own reaction was to scream. It just felt as long as Alex was there, Piper was going to feel much more at home, much more like herself. I think some of this may derive from Prepon's own sort of grounded presence - the low voice, the height, the measured way of moving - but I also think the actors as their characters do connect in a way that didn't register with Larry/Piper even though the show did a great job showing that that was, when we first encountered it, a loving relationship. There could be a difference between how Schilling plays the two relationships even going back to the premiere.

Looked up prison commissary and found this: That suggests Piper's volume purchase of all the flavor packets would trigger an alert that she's using them for the exact purpose she was using them, and they would have been confiscated. I've only seen bits and pieces of That 70s Show, enough to get the idea that Mila Kunis probably the most entertaining of the (four + Wilmer Valderrama?) cast members, although none of it held me more than less than a minute. It wasn't for me. But now that I look back, I realize that I never saw more than one second of Laura Prepon, because every time she spoke, I'd bail. I don't recall her being annoying or anything, just that she seemed so completely devoid of any charisma, personality or ability that I didn't see the point. On occasion I wondered how she'd gotten the part and kept the job. Ashton Kutchner was annoying, and as I said, the show wasn't my thing, but I could see what he was doing there. When I saw OITNB, to me Prepon was effective enough that I thought I must have been too quick-triggered in my channel-changing and if I'd stuck around I'd have seen she had more to offer. Now I realize my first impression must have been accurate and she's just improved.

I don't think it was a mistake to remove Piper, just that the story she did have was lacking. I actually think her business is brilliant (if I don't scrutinize too closely) but I hate talking about it or hearing about it, which is a problem. Great business idea, don't want to know about it, please shut up. They used the story to show something about Piper's psychological evolution, but the straddle between comedy and drama was kind of ineffective. IMO her rally the troops speech on the picnic table laid an egg. Can't really fault the performance, and I get the idea, but it didn't fly. Alongside the super quirkiness of Piper's new enterprise, you have Alex possibly whacked by her drug kingpin and Prepon trying to play that terror with some authenticity. The material didn't mesh. I can't think of what it needed to work, as the premise of it all seems okay, but I don't think the problem was Piper's lack of centrality. They also tried to play some sort of chemical attraction from Piper to Stella, with an "out" that Piper was possibly reacting to Alexis's rejection, but Stella didn't work. I thought the material for the non-Piper inmates was pretty strong, including the flashbacks, although I enjoyed following present-day Chang around the prison more than I liked her backstory. I thought the present-day stuff was fantastic. Loved Time Hump chronicles, and poor Soso's depression and rescue by the black crew. I thought that given more airtime, Boo and Doggett could have been the emotional anchor of this season. I liked Boo's backstory, but upon reflection, we saw that she was 42 years old when her mother died, and as far as we were shown, she hadn't been in trouble with the law at that point. Seems like she got into the system pretty late in life - wonder what she did. It does make me think of her as less dysfunctional, lawbreaking, getting along in the real-world-wise, than some of the other inmates.

I don't know if I ship it, per se, but I believe it. if they make Piper's love life important, they have their work cut out for them replacing Alex. Stella certainly doesn't cut it. I wonder if the show wants us to think about the disparity in the time both women are serving. If we're meant to focus on that, I think Alex would have never forgiven Piper. I wonder if Alex loving Piper isn't more convincing than Piper loving Alex simply because Alex really has no other story and Piper does. Even the Alex flashbacks had her acting out in reaction to Piper's rejection. Still, Taylor Schilling has called the Alex character "foundational" for Piper. I'm not good at making plot assumptions, but I'd think the show needs to keep Piper in Litchfield longer than her given sentence because the show is going to keep running, so maybe she'll have some time tacked on for siphoning off the scrap fabric into her own business (I'll do anything to avoid naming what it actually is Piper is doing). Do we know the particulars of Alex's conviction/the case against her? If they had a solid case against her as the operations manager for a high level drug king, I have issues with her ending up in minimum security. It's even kind of a stretch for her parole violation, which included being found in possession of a gun, landing her back in minimum. I wonder if it weren't some rather knocked down sentence that justified a decent hunk of time but didn't classify her as having been as seriously in the international drug cartel business as she actually was.

I think they're meant to be the loves of each other's lives and will always be that, but, plotwise, sometimes a show sacrifices a duo like that to "earn" happier endings for a bunch of other characters, so that's why I hesitate with "end game". It's rare that a show sort of goes "Happy endings for everyone!" the way Mad Men did, whatever problems I have with that show's actual finale. Both actresses seem committed to the show, and OITNB's format allows the characters to come and go, which is probably an incentive to stick around.

Of all the crimes, I find Alex's the hardest to process. Everybody else you can sort of track. Her, what was it? At what point did she decide to work for an international drug cartel? Disclosure: I believe most drugs, even hard drugs, should be decriminalized, if not legal (don't want to be reckless without knowing exactly what's out there), but obviously since heroin is illegal, we end up in a massive criminal enterprise that's like an international mafia and run by psychopaths. She was right in the thick of it, she wasn't some tangential piece of the puzzle, doing something locally.

I have the opposite feeling about Piper/Schilling. I feel as if I've seen characters like her and always hated them, usually down to casting. I think Schilling goes a long way as an actress, very aware of Piper's shortcomings, so that I can want to slap Piper but still be on board with Schilling. Piper's storyline wasn't so great in S3. I understood the choices Schilling was making. IMO she was trying to trouble shoot some of the writing. She was sort of playing Piper as testing the waters - what if I push this button - what happens? How about if I take this stand - does it work? It works! You can see her trying stuff out and processing it. Also, Schilling is really funny. Not, OMG I'm dying funny the way Black Cindy and Nicky and O'Neill, for three, can be, but smart, and aware, and unassuming. She's not self-enchanted, which is a relief. However, I think she's sort of a hard sell as a bad ass, and the Stella stuff just laid an egg, and for those reasons her story didn't really work. I don't think it's Schilling's fault.

Agreed and that's what makes them a good couple, even a "healthy" couple, chemistry aside. On most shows, relationships with this much drama are portrayed as sort of inherently co-dependent, a couple that brings out exhaustingly destructive or dysfunctional tendencies in each other. I'm remembering various teary television scenes where a couple is in love or addicted but "I can't do this anymore!" sob sob, and they choose someone "healthier" so they can have stability, even if the passion isn't there. What's interesting here is these two are fucked up individually. It's not Piper bringing out Alex's destructive side or vice versa. In fact, they temper each other in that respect, and calm each other down. Both are hard-wired to be self-interested, and things would definitely be worse for each of them apart (and whatever alternative partner they were with). They humanize each other.

I have a rational inclination to LIKE these characters, and I don't usually feel that way when I start watching a show. The casting here is so good and the dialogue is great, so I start trusting the writing. THEN what happened is what we've been talking about, the show runner or writers lose sight of the big picture and start messing up. The writing I hate the most is "This behavior is okay because it's somebody we like." I am perfectly comfortable loving Morello despite knowing she's delusional and really scared the hell out of Christopher when she stalked him, particularly since the show is quasi-comedy. I get that it's bad for Christopher, I don't need the focus there. BUT when the writing takes this turn of personalizing Morello's issues as being about this particular guy, Christopher, making her feel bad, it's an incredible blunder. I hate when show runners turn schoolyard. This is the goat, these are the popular kids, and our value system is based on who we like and who we don't. Ugh. For example, I don't particularly blame Christopher for going to see Morello and ripping into her. He had every right. This didn't stop me from feeling her humiliation. BUT, my pain for her was rooted in seeing that she was gripped by delusions she didn't recognize or understand, and these would continue to cause her pain. That's why I was so relieved when she went to Nicky and said "I'm a crazy person. There's something really wrong with me." I didn't see that as a depressing moment for Morello, but a HOPEFUL moment. You know what they say, the first step is to recognize you have a problem. I sort of hand-waved her saying "He's not the man I thought he was - he's really mean." because I figured that's what she needed to say to let go of him. Come to find out, the show was sort of encouraging us to see him as mean. Which makes no sense whatsoever. His personality is irrelevant, and I also don't see what his reaction to his stalker has to do with being mean or what type of man he is. It's the part where the narrative perspective makes no sense that usually starts to alienate me from a series. OITB could have told the story of Morello sending her new bf to beat up Christopher, but it should have been played as the same sort of dangerous turn Suzanne took when she beat up Poussey. It could even have played as, damn - if Nicky were here, this wouldn't have happened, because Nicky can tap into the sane part of Morello. Come back, Nicky! It should never be, yay, she got back at that mean Christopher and has a guy who loves her in a way she's always dreamed. That makes zero sense. It doesn't impact how I "like" Morello, it impacts how much I like the show.

No. We don't know him, he's not a leading character. What the show needs to do is treat him responsibly. If we're meant to sympathize with Morello, and I believe we are, then they can't give Christopher a beat down because of how he responded to being stalked, and play it as girl power or something. They COULD play it as something Morello did that later made her realize how far gone she was, the way, for example, they handled Suzanne beating the shit out of Poussey, although I think they kind of skated by on that one as well. Both women are a bit unhinged, although they're much more inconsistent about showing that when it comes to Morello. I'm just looking at the narrative effectiveness of this story, and I believe if we're meant to ache for Morello, they can't play her having Christopher beaten up as some sort of "You go girl" beat. They can still beat him up, and we don't necessarily have to care about the character, but for the story to work the beat down has to be played responsibly, with the component effect on Morello, and acknowledge to the audience what it is. The Morello story is obviously one of a girl who is truly delusional, who on some level knows it and is terrified by it but doesn't know what to do about it. I was reading about the five types of stalkers, which I think has already been talked about in this forum, and Morello is an intimacy-seeking stalker. She's a troubled woman. Yes, she has an adorable side, but they can't play her beat down of Christopher as an extension of her adorable side, or his rejection as Christopher kicking poor little puppy Morello. We can be heartbroken for her as she sees the wedding veil in Christopher's home, the wedding plans, etc., but the heartbreak shouldn't be because she's not the bride!! ETA, I'm curious if an intimacy-seeking stalker, who, according to what I've read, is assuredly suffering from mental illness/delusions, can be as compartmentalized as Morello seems to be. She was functional outside her delusions about Christopher. She maintained relationships in Litchfield, her relationship with Nicky was as reasonably healthy as any other relationship in Litchfield, she had responsibilities such as driving the van, and the astute Red picked her to run for WAC. With both of these characters, Suzanne and Morello, OITNB has played around with their ability to really physically hurt innocent people, while encouraging us to find them endearing. I just think it's a mistake. Suzanne's beat down of Poussey keeps sticking in my mind even though they reconciled. I think Morello's violent side should be handled better too. Ugly Betty, Mad Men, Dexter, The Sopranos.... I've learned to just hitch a ride for a great first two seasons and then get off. I still believe the first season of The Sopranos was one of the greatest mini-series ever. Once it lost the structure of Tony vis a vis Livia, playing off the mother/son relationship with the mobster versus mobster relationship, it became unmoored, although it still had good short arcs and good stand alone episodes. Like a lot of these shows, it gets held up by production values and good acting. What would some of these show runners do without an extensive and effective playlist in their head. Cue up the right song for the closing credits seems to buy a lot of good will.

I don't think the marriage is meant to last. BUT, I think it was meant as a sort of pay-off for poor Morello, so sadly rejected by Christopher after deluding herself he cared, so humiliated by him in the visiting room. That's so WRONG. I don't care about the character of Christopher at all, but I do care about Morello, and I hate the misplaying of where the audience sympathy came from. The sympathy came from people recognizing this was a girl fueled by pathological romantic delusions, completely oblivious to the underlying crazy or neediness. For me, when "Almost Paradise" played at the conclusion of Morello's backstory episode, I was never thinking "If only Christopher had loved her!" Christopher was not the problem. He was the victim - collateral damage. The heartrending part was Morello BELIEVING the situation was about rejection, her complete blindness to how far gone she really was. The fact that the poor thing was experiencing terrible pain and heartbreak without understanding its real cause. There was no "if only - his love could have saved her!" about it. The great thing about the scene with Nicky was Nicky really loves her. Sees her for what she is. If you're a shipper, than you can wank that behind Morello's delusions and pathology, none of these obsessions are about sexual attraction, and her real self might actually be gay. If that doesn't matter, then it's still - Nicky is a great first step, a truly disinterested friend (I believe Nicky cares about Morello whether or not Lorna reciprocates romantically - and vice versa) who appreciates who you are and sees your dysfunction might be a first step to achieving a more reality-based life.

Yeah was not a fan of the lake scene. Talk about rip offs, that was almost a rip off of "Cocoon" (had to look the title up) - a 1980s movie about senior citizens who end up rejuvenated, culminating in the same sort of abandoned rush into a swimming pool. I hate hate hate scenes like that. HATE. And hated the whole "Suzanne is so innocent so of course is the one who has the most primal connection with the water and the experience" way it was launched. Just stop that, show. Another thing I disliked is that, while the actresses are very strong, there were a few "Here's your acting showcase" moment that were too self-conscious. Black Cindy's speech about finding her people in Judaism was more than well-handled by Adrienne Moore, but did come off as - and now we pause for her audition monologue. Boo's speech in the hospital had a little of the same. In general, while I liked S3, it had more "we've just shown you, and now we're on the nose TELLING you" stuff, to make sure we GOT it, that can get really annoying. Poussey's speech telling off Norma's worshippers was another one of those. We already got it show, about the toast, the bigotry, the rejection. We really don't need the soapbox to be this literal. Without knowing anything about Natasha Lyonne but hoping her sobriety is maintained and genuine, even in interviews she does have that relentless quality, that hit and run charm that can be so so exhausting, that can be a hallmark of people with her issues. Not every situation requires a comment, a self-deprecating self-disclosure, or some sort of instant intimacy with someone you've just met. So I could see it. OTOH Lea Delaria is about 20 years older and has some of the same tendencies, in print, at least, of constantly wise cracking and never being not "on". I know she's said she likes her beer and has told stories of being loaded in certain situations, but I can see a difference between the two of them, just not sure what the difference is. Maybe I should say "sense" a difference in the kinds of chattiness, being on and wisecracking, but haven't pinned it down.

Re the 70s - I don't know. I believed that Boo's dad was that understanding, and then, in other respects, such as calling her attire at the hospital a "costume", gets it completely backwards. I'm also wondering if back then it was easier on some parents to have a gay daughter than a gay son. Although reading David Sedaris, who is approx. Delaria's age, his parents didn't appear to have much of a problem. I believe the 70s was still a time when many parents weren't living through their kids or helicoptering around them, and what really mattered was what was worn to Grandma's house or for the school picture. I thought Delaria did a good job in the flashbacks, particularly underplaying some of the stuff with her dad at the hospital.

I didn't really buy it though. It didn't feel at all earned, and was way too easy. Yeah, load up the cubicle of the girl who is leaving in two days. That's not suspicious at all.

citychic, I was saying that earlier. I had just read an interview with Lea Delaria,and she and the interviewer were talking about the differences between the L Word and OITNB. OITNB isn't "hot lesbians get it on!" even though there's a lot of sex on the show, it's not the conventional sort of "sex on cable TV!" Then came the marketing of Ruby Rose, straight out of the "sex on cable TV!" playbook. Hot lesbians! It was so annoying because the people on the show were congratulating themselves for what OITNB isn't, then came this marketing campaign that was exactly that. It almost doesn't matter that the Stella character was pretty blah, mostly because Ruby Rose is a meh actress. The casting screams fantasy. It doesn't matter that none of it was actually hot or interesting. I am going to assume it was Netflix behind the campaign and the casting. I believe Piper and Alex have some kind of fan following that puts them, as a couple, into a sort of romantic, shipper kind of category, and I, personally, think that despite the show's desire to cultivate that support, the show and the relationship on the show can benefit from less isolation and more integration into prison life and with the other characters (they need a non-relationship story that lets them talk about stuff OTHER than the relationship, the way noromantic Boo/Doggett have, and the black crew has.). IOW, give them more real stuff to deal with and talk about than the relationship while they have or don't have the relationship. One of the reviewers said the Red/Healy flirtation threatened to take OITNB into Grey's Anatomy territory, but Alex/Piper is pretty much already there. Instead the show appears to have just decided to write a triangle, and Piper's kingpin wannabe story arc was just a device to create conflict with Alex and open the door for Stella.

Which episode has O'Neill, Donuts and Bell talking about Red Velvet cupcakes?

I'm on the fence about Elizabeth Rodriguez. She's definitely a strong actress, and I definitely think Aleida is a crappy person, but I did think we were meant to empathize with Aleida somewhat during Daya's labor, as well as in some of Aleida's scenes with Gloria, and I just could not. The writing in OITNB really pulls out the stops when it wants us to sympathize, and I don't know if the problem is me or the writing/acting. Maybe no matter what the show tries to do, the issues Aleida has aren't going to be sympathetic no matter what. Too narcissistic, and her narcissism imprints on kids and destroys their lives before they have a chance.

Yeah, the show played all the wrong beats in (presumed) reaction to the audience reaction to Morello's backstory. Morello's backstory isn't heartbreaking rejection from the man she loved, so here, at the end of Season 3, have a cute guy declare his genuine feelings for her and marry her! I do think it was supposed to be a feel good thing - Christopher "pays" for shaming her in the visiting room, and Morello gets love and marriage from a cute guy. That had nothing to do with why the audience responded to her backstory, and even the twitter supporters were, at heart, expressing incredible empathy for a very vulnerable fictitious character. They weren't buying into Lorna's delusions. The whole heartbreak of it was Lorna thought she was heartbroken over a guy, but the reality was "there's something really wrong with me. I'm a crazy person." THAT's what broke people's hearts. She was experiencing her problem as romantic rejection and heartbreak but the audience saw what it really was, and wanted to reach out to her and show her that, and support her. Of course you're loveable! Your problem isn't not being loved! Let's talk about it! In her final scene with Nicky, LORNA began to see what her problem really was (or so I hoped, despite her saying Christopher was mean). The fact that she began to see it was a sign of hope in her storyline. Then the show took the cheap route and I don't really get it.