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Love it! So, if this is the actual armor dress that ST mentioned, and this is what she's wearing in the early season at Winterfell, then MAYBE that scaly dress is a late season end game look?

Looks good. Finally some more older actors showing up.

I bet this whole conflict between characters (because drama) is all cleared up by episode 3. Dany will win their trust in time for the big battle. Maybe Tyrion will as well, or not, given the Tyrion spoilers. Maisie is a huge Sophie fan because they are such close friends, she's just being a bit of a cheerleader for her bestie. That's my take, anyway.

So, Miranda Richardson has been added to the cast. I'm intrigued. I've been wondering why the cast lacked older actors, as so many of the best characters in GOT were those played by actors and actresses over 40. Imagine the GOT pilot without Ned, Catelyn, Tyrion, Robert, Jorah, Sandor amongst others I'm sure. Now I'm wondering if casting is still on-going, and if we'll be hearing more names over the upcoming months.

Cersie as the final Boss? Human conflict has been front and center from the start, so it would make a kind of sense. But does this match what we know about the KL battle? We know that the city burns, and I've assumed that is because of a dragon battle between Dany and the Night King.

Another omission - Yara.

Characters not included in the pics: Gendry, Tormund, Gilly, Mira, Beric, The Mountain, Qyburn, Edd, Edmure, Sweet Robin The most sad omission to me is Gendry. :( I overall love these because of the season 1 callback. Jon looks amazing. So do Dany & Sansa. Sam looks adorably out of place. Jamie also looks a little out of place too.

Jon Snow: -Alive Sansa Stark: - Alive Arya Stark: - Alive Bran Stark: - Alive Ghost: - Alive Nymeria: - Alive Cersei Lannister: - Dead Jaime Lannister: - Dead Tyrion Lannister: - Alive Daenerys Targaryen: - Alive Missandie: - Alive Grey Worm: - Dead Drogon: - Dead Viserion (gold): Dead Rhaegal (green): Dead Yara Greyjoy: Alive Theon Greyjoy: Dead Euron Greyjoy: Dead Brienne of Tarth: - Alive Podrick Payne: Alive Davos Seaworh: Alive Melisandre: Dead Tormund Gigantsbane: - Dead Sandor Clegane: Alive Thoros of Myr: - Dead Samwell Tarly: - Alive Gilly: - Alive Baby Sam: - Alive Varys: - Dead Petyr Baelish: Still Dead Qyburn: Dead Ellaria Sand: Still Dead Obara Sand: Still Dead Tyene Sand: Still dead Nymeria Sand: Still dead Olenna Tyrell: - Still Dead Meera Reed: Alive Robin Arryn: Alive Edmund Tully: Alive Dolorous Edd: Dead Bronn: Alive Jorah Mormont: Alive Daario Naharis: Alive Offscreen Gendry: Alive Hot Pie: Alive The white walkers: Dead The wall: Dead The iron throne: Dead

Camilla is coming....

Do we only have this Sansa Statue spoiler/foiler or whatever it is from one source, or have other attendees backed up the original twitter source? Also, I would love there to be an 80 year leap into the future, so I won't hold my breath for it to happen. LOL. For the record, it isn't at all uncommon for the statue of a person who lived to be eighty, to appear as they were when they were younger if this turned out to be a statue gallery for war heroes. Especially on a TV show. Anyway, I feel like I know about as much as Jon Snow in so far as season 8 is concerned AKA. NOTHING. And I'm sure that HBO is loving it.

I think that there is usually some kind of promotional material that starts coming out in January of February, even if it is just the official posters and character photos. I'm thinking of the blue lit photos we had one year, or the wall of masks that we had another. I hope that kind of material starts showing up much sooner than March! ARG.

I hope the fandom isn't too disappointed about Empire of Ash. From Bloys' interviews I take it Long Night will film in Belfast this Winter, aka "first quarter". If that is true, I think that the earliest it will air, if it is picked up, is Spring/Summer of 2020. Assume the pilot is done by April 2019, they have to review it. evaluate how it works, and recast parts if need be. If they pick it up, then they have to write and produce nine more episodes, which could easily take the rest of 2019. So, then they take five or six month for Post-Production, and it is possible to have it ready to go by 2020. But I think this is a tight schedule.

Absolutely agree to disagree. It just comes down to how interesting and epic one thinks the written stories are compared to some equivalent relatively unknown story. As an aside, I think if Long Night is to be GOT worthy, all expectations about the Legends of Old have to be turned on their head. Bran the Builder can't be a shiny noble hero, Lan the Clever can't be a mustache twirling villain, The Last Hero should be someone we don't see coming. Empire of Ash sounds great, and ready to go as described, IF that leak is accurate. It's got the political crisis, the epic scale and the impending doom in a sword and sandal setting and I think it has all the elements it needs. IF it comes to pass. I cannot wait to start hearing casting leaks for both or either. PS - I actually would love to see Dunk & Egg and especially the Dance of Dragons produced in some form.

Dunk and Egg do not have the scope for a story covering multiple seasons. Where is the epic? Where is the potential for creating a story full of interesting characters spanning two continents? What is the gripping, overarching threat hanging over the story and over the heads of all the characters whether the characters know or not? Where is the cool, hook, like the dragons? It's too small. Same with Robert's Rebellion. They are rehash. But. yes, I agree they would make potential stand-alone miniseries or TV movies. I think the premises of Both Long Night and Empire of Ash can sustain seven or eight seasons, and have the potential for the continent spanning, epic that Game of Thrones has. As to the obvious shortcuts of season 7? I agree with you that the writers tripped up on a lot of things as they speed the story along in the interest of reaching the conclusion. If they were keeping the story at the same pace of the early season the show would need a couple more seasons.

I don't think that filling in the blanks of a story that's been told, such as the Dunk & Egg stories, or Robert's Rebellion would be enough to sustain a TV series. A TV movie for sure, or a Mini-Series, but not a long form show. And I think that a lot of the Targaryen back story, and especially the Dance with Dragons could be done very cinematically in some format. Both the premises we've been given, The Long Night and the Doom of Valeryia could sustain an eight season TV show because they provide ample opportunity for original world building which can be filled with interesting heroes and villains. If the producers can pull it off.

Wow. They are upping the ante big time. I want both series because I'm greedy and because it is possible due to AT&T's apparent desire for HBO to greatly increase their volume of content to become Netflix 2.0.

I hope so! I wonder if there will be any big name actors involved as Sean Bean was at the beginning of GOT. My fingers are crossed for some casting leaks.

WinterIsComing is reporting that filming for this pilot will begin in Oct. That likely means that they've already cast the parts or are well on their way. This is so much sooner than I was expecting to hear about filming! Linky

I think the reason that kiss was allowed is because it was skeevy and abusive, which GOT is not afraid to do. Those kisses were not romantic, though, of course, that ship has shippers anyway. I would totally have been on board show SanSan if the Hound had been age appropriately cast. As others have said, SanSan is a thing in the books. I think that if Sansa and Tyrion both live, that they will be end up together, though, I'm not going to bet any money on it just yet because the foreshadowing for Sansa is to be Lady of the North, not Lady of Casterly Rock.

Sansa isn't a warrior, but Jon did order that every man, woman and child in the North train to fight. So I think it would be awesome to have a scene with Brienne trying to teach her some basic skills, Sansa failing, and Arya watching it all and laughing her ass off. I'm loving the Stargaryen Sigil. :::fingers crossed::: As for ep titles - I wouldn't be surprised to see something like The Lion and the Kraken for episode two. There is a tradition for the House and House episode titles. I'd like to see A Dream of Spring for 8.5, and A Song of Ice & Fire as the title for 8.6.

Young Adult Princess Anne has been cast. She is an actress from Call the Midwife named Erin Doherty. I've never seen Call the Midwife, but this actress has a good resemblance to Anne. I wonder if season 3 or 4 will also introduce Mark Phillips. Perhaps this news means that announcements about the casting of young adult Charles and Camilla will be coming soon too. Surely those two roles are among the most anticipated for the new season other than the Queen and Phillip. I believe that they will be filming soon.

Is this thing ever going to air? /WTF. I have high hopes for something far better than the animated movie that is now several decades old.

Yes, I read one of those alternate theory books, admittedly many years ago, regarding Richard III's culpability. I understand, of course that the Tudor's got to write the history books. But Richard III did usurp his nephew, and did lock him in the tower along with his brother. I think once that happened, the Yorks were doomed. People can theorize however they wish, but it is still just a conspiracy theory.

I really enjoyed the original White Queen series right up until the last episode when Lizzie is boning her uncle. The uncle who caused a lot of hardship, suffering and death to most of her family, and had her declared illegitimate. I watched the White Princess despite my eyes still rolling. And again, the end made my head spin. I think that the main problem is the original authors insistence on treating every single conspiracy theory about the War of the Roses and it's aftermath as the real truth, most especially trying to make a hero out of CP Richard, and taking Perkin at face value. This is especially so given that the protagonist of the White Queen is the mother of the princes who disappeared in the tower. And the protagonist of the White Princess is their sister. I actually think that a dramatization of the actual history as we know it, without the conspiracy theories would have been drama enough. Henry VII married the daughter of a family he made war against and apparently somehow ended up with a happy marriage. That all seems like a longshot and yet it seems to be what happened.