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I'm not sure if you meant this to refer to Sara/Caity Lotz, but, if so, that's not what queerbaiting means.

Yeah, I feel like this is one of those things that happens when people conflate one ship (which is explicitly not canon) and the LGBT+ community. Like, if they were talking about the show's treatment of its actual queer characters, that might be different, but reactions to specific romantic pairings are questions of preference, not representation. That being said, however, making fun of your fans is always kind of a dick move. Like, I don't blame him, or anyone else in the cast, for having a problem with shippers who've taken things too far, but they probably insulted a good number of people who haven't been involved in any of that.

Yeah, I feel like that's the biggest problem I usually have with stories like this. Like, the whole world is vastly different and all the heroes are evil, but they somehow still look recognizably like themselves. Then again, I'm kind of over the whole "any hero could be an evil fascist, given the right circumstances" type stories, so I'd probably find it stupid, either way.

Yeah, the question in the interview was about how she'd interact with the team, and it seems like whoever wrote the accompanying article took it to mean something romantic. I think it's the same thing where, last season, they talked about Amaya's relationship with Mick being important, and a lot of people assumed that meant love interest. Plus, I'm pretty sure that if they were actually planning on doing something romantic with the two of them, he wouldn't have mentioned it the way that he did. I thought the same thing. It's probably just because they announced her joining the team around the same time they started saying that Sara was going to get a love interest, so I sort of linked those two things in my mind. Plus, everything they've been saying about her character makes me think they'd be a good match. That being said, I'm excited for the character, and I hope she gets stuff to do that doesn't revolve around who she hooks up with.

Yeah, from the sounds of it, Overgirl is more comparable to Superboy than Supergirl, as far as origin and powers.

To clarify, I was saying that Sansa's point was that she was trying to be honest with him about the things she thinks he isn't giving enough thought to, because she thinks he's better off knowing where they disagree and why. I took the specific example of Ned not using profanity in front of her to be more allegorical, rather than a specific indictment of the way the his word choice eventually ruined her life. I also don't think her saying that Jon needs to make better decisions than Ned or Robb diminishes how she feels about either of them or what they did to protect her.

So, setting aside that only book!Sansa went to Cersei behind Ned's back and only show!Sansa has said that Ned was at fault, I think you might be misinterpreting her statement about Ned's protection. Jon explicitly mentions that Ned didn't want them knowing about the uglier side of things, and Sansa correctly points out that not knowing about ugliness doesn't keep it away. Arya had a bit more preparation, because she insisted on it, but Sansa was pretty clearly blindsided. The issue isn't that he took them there or that he couldn't get them out; it's that Sansa didn't even know there was a threat to be looking out for until it was too late. I think she was saying that she and Jon need to be honest with each other, even if it isn't nice, because knowing the truth is safer, in the long run. Also, I think a lot of this comes back to how the show has (in my opinion) really dropped the ball on the storyline in the North. Like, having Sansa go to Winterfell as herself was stupid for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the fact that she was (and still is) a wanted fugitive from King's Landing, so if that didn't worry the Boltons, who were depending on support from the Iron Throne to hold their position, then it almost certainly shouldn't worry Jon*. Then, on top of that, they made sure that not a single Northern house of any significance was interested in backing Sansa and Jon against Ramsey. Sansa herself was the one making arguments, last season, that the Northern houses would be loyal to the Starks, but all she ended up hearing from those same houses was how their loyalty was squandered by Ned and Robb making stupid decisions, so it's no wonder she now thinks that's the case. * I feel like the more reasonable point they should be thinking about, re: Cersei, is whether they should be negotiating with her or any other southern houses for more troops to fight the White Walkers, since the Northern forces have been decimated a few times over in the past several years. I mean, unless they somehow already know what Olenna's up to, it seems almost foolish not to at least attempt to get her on their side. Also, on a personal level, I would find it a more interesting point of conflict for Jon and Sansa than whether these two kids we've never seen before should get these two castles we've never seen at all, or if said unseen castles should be given, instead, to two members of loyal houses that weren't even named.

I don't know. I feel like she's wary of Littlefinger at this point, but I don't think she's entirely sure what to do about that. Personally, I'm not even really sure what she should do with that. Like, realistically, there's no good reason for them to ever speak again after he brought her to the Bolton's. For all his supposed cunning, following his lead got her raped and tortured. That means that either he's stupid or he doesn't care about her well-being. Or both. Either way, he's not a person who's judgement she should even listen to, let alone humor. At the same time, though, for all she knows, Ned and Robb's leadership style gained them the loyalty of maybe two people in the North who weren't already dead, so it's not like she has a particularly viable alternative to the more southern way of thinking she's seen from Cersei and Littlefinger.

So, I really liked Arya's storyline this episode. Having her wipe out all the Freys involved in the Red Wedding was incredibly satisfying (to be clear, my understanding from the speech "Walder" gave was that the people invited to this feast were those directly involved in the Red Wedding, not just whatever Freys she could find on short notice). Plus, I really liked her scene with the Lannister soldiers. I thought it was cool to see her feeling them out to see if they were a threat or not, and it was kind of a relief, for me, that they weren't and that she could figure that out. I also thought that Dani's arrival and "Shall we begin?" was a great way to end the episode. It definitely gave the feeling that the end game of this whole conflict has finally begun. I also loved that, after all the squabbling in all the other factions we saw, Dani and her team didn't even need to speak. I wasn't a huge fan of the pacing this episode, overall. I felt like Sam's bedpan montage could have been just as effective if it were half as long. The scene with Euron felt like it dragged on, though that might have had more to do with the fact that I don't find him particularly compelling, as a character. The stuff at Winterfell, on the other hand, felt like it could have used more room to breathe. Same thing with the confrontation between Cersei and Jaime. Regarding the Sansa/Jon argument, I'm actually more bothered by the writing than how either of them behaved. Like, I don't think Sansa was setting out to undermine him, but I still think she should have let it go sooner than she did. At the same time, I'm sure it's frustrating for her to be sidelined by Jon and, after everything she's been through, I can understand her not wanting to feel powerless again. At the same time, while I get that Jon is focused on the big war, he should understand better than most how petty conflicts can end up derailing that effort. Plus, his ending the argument by saying that he's the King and it's his decision felt odd, coming from him, and it has got to be a red flag for her. That being said, I do think Jon made the right call, given who the actual players are (there's a pretty slim chance that either of those children had any say in their respective houses decision to betray the Starks, and there doesn't seem to be anyone whose loyalty needs to be solidified by giving them an extra hold). Still, he would have been wise to discuss that decision with Sansa ahead of time, if only so that they could present a united front for the other lords. I felt that the whole thing was set up really strangely, though. Like, why would Alys and Ned be there if Jon wasn't already planning on having them swear their loyalty? And, if that was the plan, how did Sansa not know about it ahead of time, so that she wouldn't say that thing about giving their holds to other families in the first place? Plus, it kind of irks me that Alys didn't get to be a bit more active in the decision, the way that she is in the books. I also agree with those who've said that Sansa has felt out of character for a while. Like, I've more or less accepted that they've decided to have her go in a darker direction than her book counterpart, especially post-Ramsey, but her whole deal was supposed to be that she was careful with her words and more politically savvy than her siblings. If she's going to be (in my opinion) uncharacteristically callous, there's no reason for to also be (in my opinion) uncharacteristically clumsy about it.

I'm also interested to see what changed Rip's mind. Like, he was there and on board with the plan when they decided to go back to help their previous selves prevent Doomworld, although I don't know that this version of him knows that. Plus, he said the whole "I have nothing left to teach you" thing after they'd done whatever broke the timeline (which was probably going back and interacting with their previous selves at all, but might have been trying to take off in the Waverider with both versions of themselves), so he probably didn't realize that they'd done that any more than they did, meaning that he's not in any better a position to fix it than they are. Either way, it just seems like a dick move. That is a relief about Amaya, but now it just seems weird and kinda shitty that they didn't include her in the press release, since they included everyone else.

I wonder if they're gonna move things around when it's crossover time. I could see them moving Legends to Wednesday, just for that week, so that they could still promote it as a four night event. I'm not sure how I feel about Arrow closing out the crossover. Like, in the Invasion crossover, the Legends episode was by far the most crossover-y of the bunch, in part because it had to be the episode where everything was wrapped up. Arrow, on the other hand, got something that could have just been an episode of Arrow (plus that one scene of Supergirl and Flash beating the hell out of some lady). So, basically, I don't know that closing it out is necessarily a good thing.

Yeah, I used to be kind of indifferent to Fitz and Simmons as a couple, but the past couple seasons have really soured me on them. I just feel like a disproportionately high percentage of Simmons' scenes are now centered around her relationship with Fitz. Like, she came back from spending six-ish months on another planet and 95% of her conversations with other people were about them telling her how much Fitz cared about her. It got old. Writing off Bobbi was definitely a mistake, especially since it was for a poorly conceived spin off that didn't even get picked up.

Yeah, that's one of the reasons that health insurance is such a big issue for the WGA and a lot of similar unions (SAG, Actors Equity, etc.). Since so much of their work is sporadic, writers tend to get their health insurance from the guild, rather than their employer. Same thing with their pension, which is another sticking point that they haven't been able to agree on. That is true. Like, it varies from company to company, and sometimes position to position, but nothing is legally guaranteed except that they can't fire you.

Yeah, that makes sense. The problem remains, though, that it's not an especially convenient time to go on strike. Strikes only work when enough people are impacted by it that they put pressure on the other party to settle it. Like, video game voice actors have been striking for six months now, and they're not making any traction because it's not putting any major game releases on hold, so not enough people notice/care.

That seems like kind of an odd time to start a strike. Like, the 07-08 strike started somewhere in November, which meant that most regular shows either couldn't come back from winter hiatus or could only come back with an episode or two. Plus, it was right when the presidential primaries were getting started, so the fact that no one was writing for late night was a pretty big deal. With it starting in May, it'll be a while before general viewership even notices, since even most summer shows are already done shooting. Hopefully, producers and network execs will be proactive in getting things resolved before it's time to start planning for next season, because, by the time it starts having enough of an effect on the viewing public to force the issue, most shows will already be months behind on production.

I'm pretty sure he's talking about Legends 2x01, not Arrow 2x01. Also, "truncheon" is a pretty general term for club-like weapons, so it's not technically wrong. His opinion about them looking cooler is wrong, but that's another matter. So true. I think it's been fun to see her branch out on the weapons front. Like, the sword fights have been cool and I think adding the throwing knives to her arsenal was really smart. At the same time, though, her coolest fights have always been with the bo staff.

Yeah, I think the cool thing about the Shield version of Doomworld is that, instead of it being a bunch of villains making the world how they want (which you know is going to be terrible, because villains), it's a bunch of heroes making the world that they think they want (which shouldn't be so much worse, but it is).

I believe Lionel Luthor is from the comics, but I'm pretty sure Lillian Luthor was created for Smallville. Yeah, that seems so strange to me. Like, there's really nothing about the character that should make her difficult to translate to live action. Admittedly, the canary cry always looks kind of dumb in live action, but it's used pretty sparingly in the comics, so there's no reason they couldn't do the same thing with a live action version of her. Or, they could use something like the sonic grenades that Sara used and which, I still maintain, looked awesome in practice. I think part of the problem, though, is that they keep trying to do massive reinterpretations of the character when a more direct translation was probably the better way to go.

I think it's giving the writers too much credit to think that they intentionally sabotaged anything. I think they wanted to give Laurel and Oliver a backstory where he'd have to prove that he'd changed before they could be together again. I don't think they realized that they went too far until it was too late. Not to mention, I honestly think that the backstory could have been less of an issue if there was better writing for them in their present-day interactions. Or, if Oliver didn't look like he was in physical pain whenever they had a scene together. Like, I would kind of compare them to Luke Cage and Jessica Jones on Netflix. There's obviously a pretty awful backstory there, and I think Luke is totally justified in not wanting anything to do with her once he finds out, but I'd still root for them, more or less, because I can buy their connection. Of course, there, since he has his own show, his place in the narrative isn't dependent on whether or not he forgives her, which is something that couldn't be said for Laurel. I wouldn't say they went "out of their way." In season 2, code names weren't really a thing. Oliver had only just started going by "the Arrow" instead of "the Hood," and that only worked because Felicity told Quentin that that's what he was going by, and he presumably told the police/media/whoever. Like, at that point, Oliver still didn't go by that in the field. Oliver called Roy "Speedy" one time to calm him down, but he was still mostly just "Roy." Sara was always just "Sara" to the team or "the woman in black" to people who didn't know who she was. "Canary" was her league name, and no one called her that (in English) until the second to last episode of the season. Basically, I don't think they made a point of not calling her "Black Canary," they just didn't.

Yeah, and that didn't even cover any of her fight scenes on Legends, which I imagine would have added at least one sword-focused style.

Zatanna would be awesome. They might have to nerf her powers a bit, but I feel like she could work well with the team. Also, I feel like Dr. Fate needs to make an appearance at some point. Not to join the team, or anything. Probably just to briefly lecture and maybe grimace. I do kind of think that they ought to bring on another more morally ambiguous character, though I'm not really sure who they could pull. I still think Huntress would have been cool, but I think don't think they're interested in bringing in any more characters from the other DCTV shows.

Thanks. After doing as exhaustive a search as I could (read: cared to) without actually watching the movie, I think the quote Nate (read: whoever wrote that line) was thinking of was "Goonies never say die." I don't know the context of that line, but I don't think anyone fades out of existence after saying it. So, I feel like that confirms my theory that doomworld!Sara was using her last moments in existence to make a Sandlot reference, because she's a nerd, and Nate missed it. Tragic.

So, are we taking bets on how long it takes them to unscrew time next season? Put me down for "it'll be done by the end of the first episode back, because the writers don't want to mess with potential crossovers." Also, I'm choosing to pretty much completely ignore the Game of Thrones comment. Like, not even Game of Thrones is Game of Thrones anymore, and for good reason. The whole lack of stability was cool for a while, but most fans are tired of it and most critics aren't impressed by it anymore. I mean, The 100 tried to be Game of Thrones last year and lost over a third of its audience. Basically, I doubt that Legends will ever really be an "anyone can die" type show. It's just not in its DNA, even if the producers like to occasionally pretend otherwise.

Finally got caught up, and I have to say that I really enjoyed this episode. I loved that Sara was the one who used the spear to save everybody, and that it was her fear of abusing it that let her use it well. Plus, she was the only doomworld!Legend not to get killed, which must have been a delightful change of pace for her. Her scene with Laurel was nice, too. I think I'm coming around to the idea that the two of them had a more comfortable relationship with each other than what we saw on Arrow. Also, Sara needs to have more heart to hearts with herself. That was definitely a highlight of the episode, for me. I'm glad Nate and Amaya didn't leave. I've really enjoyed Amaya this season and, while I know she has to go back to her time eventually, I would have hated losing her after only one season. I feel like there's a lot more story they can tell with her. Also, Nate's been growing on me. It probably helps that it's been a few episodes since he put anyone's life in danger in order to show off and/or get laid. I will miss Rip, if he's really gone. I kind of feel like he is, just because that was about as much of a send-off as Kendra got last year, but it does seem anti-climactic, especially after all the work they did to get him back. So, this has been bugging me: full disclosure, I have never seen the Goonies, but wasn't the whole "Legends never die" before fading out of existence from the Sandlot? Like, I distinctly remember that happening in the Sandlot, but I couldn't really say whether or not it happened in the Goonies, too.

Yeah, that last thing Sara remembers of Mick is handing him the spear for three seconds and him taking it to join the Legion (after which she apparently got to spend a year hunting down and killing a bunch of her friends). So, yeah, she's perfectly justified in not trusting him. Personally, I don't have a problem with no one standing up for Mick. In all honesty, as much as I enjoy Mick, which I do, I could have done without his moping about the team not trusting him. He betrayed them, and not in a small way. You don't get to take credit for saving people when you're the one who put them in danger. Yeah, that was weird. Did we even see her leave? Like, she was suddenly just gone, for no reason. Anyway, that big fight at the end really didn't work for me. It felt like too many people were just standing around watching stuff happen, even though they could have been doing something. Like, how did no one in the room see Snart pointing his gun at Amaya? Why didn't anyone else try to pick up the spear after she dropped it? Plus, isn't zombie!Zoom in a cell in that building? Why didn't anyone think to break him out, since they all wanted to get rid of Eobard? It just felt like it wasn't well thought out.