Joe Hellandback

And I'm exactly the same, sometimes I can look back on events years afterwards and only then appreciate what the social interaction really meant. I developed a great distrust of people because in my viewpoint folks who you thought you were friendly with would so often turn on you and attack you for no reason. Now I realise I probably offended them without realising it. Also made you easy prey for bullies who could string you along without you realising it forever. I think one of the appeals of Buffy (and Glee) is that it was about a group of outsiders who looked out for one another but that is (literally) a fantasy, in my experience no one ever helped you, they would often sympathise with the attackers because they simply couldn't relate. .

Wrong! People can go undiagnosed all their lives and he does exhibit many of the signs. And yes, it is forgivable, the joke was it was evident she wasn't fat because she was pregnant, that was he said was evidently ridiculous. Can't tell you how many times I've made a joke and fallen out with people because they thought I was serious. But how would I know I had offended them if they then laughed at my joke and I thought everything was fine? Again, I disagree, so many great writers and artists are on the spectrum, they are absolutely fine when observing and writing about other people but not themselves. It's when they relax and don't think about what they're saying it all breaks down.

But didn't they abolish the original Bronze because Joss and others fell out with Jeff Pruitt and waged war over the board? I only joined in season 6 and didn't know it was actually The Bronze 2.0 Weinstein was a womaniser who exploited the casting couch but then arguably so did the women he slept with. Whilst Joss had affairs with some of the cast there's no indication he did that.

But you see I don't buy that, DB has had huge success post Joss and never said anything? Feuds like this aren't unknown on TV, Desperate Housewives, Charlies Angels, Sex and the City etc.

Don't get me started on SVU! Well, remember ED and AH didn't come to the reunions and no one thought ill of them.

I loved 'You're Welcome', I appreciate CC been sore about this for years but she should let it drop frankly. And WHO CARES if it was a 'minority' actor? Forgive me but what do you mean by NFA in this context?

Possibly but again, everyone has been singing his praises for years, working with him on other shows and attending the anniversaries with him and now this guy on Justice League whinges and suddenly CC resurrects her sorepoint from nearly 20 years ago and everyone is suddenly saying the reverse. The Captain of the ship, sergeant of the platoon etc does sometimes need to assert their authority, I wonder is there any more to it than this?

Horses for course, I always thought Russler was forced upon JMS by the studio because they wanted some eye candy? But remember, they did effectively fire CC (huh, coincidence? Maybe they both have mothers called Martha?) at the end of four? But JMS wasn't simultaneously running three other shows. SMG had something of a reputation for being a diva on set but Tim Minear in S&V just puts that down to her being so tired all the time, the show was nicknamed Buffy the Weekend Slayer. So what must Joss have been like?

Now you see that drives me up the WALL! He makes a joke, she laughs and he thinks they're fine. Decades later she now takes offence at it. That's happened to me so many times, you think you're fine with someone and suddenly they turn and attack you for (what you think is) no reason at all. I wonder if JW might have Aspergers/Autism? A person who is incredibly talented in some ways yet can't read social cues?

I disagree, Joss gave CC a great ending, comparable to Michael O'Hare in B5 who was actually suffering mental illness which had him stalking one of the makeup girls? It's also interesting to compare this to Claudia Christian's Maniac Cop 2 experience. I never heard that about Nic who to be fair had his own problems (as did ED of course not to mention GQ). And again, Joss did cast Amber at a time when everyone was Ally McBeal thin.

And yet they both still went on to work on other Joss projects?

Which to be fair a lot of people on The Bronze agreed with. The fact that he did cast such an unconventional beauty is to his credit. Which is why I want more detail, what EXACTLY are we talking about here? And did we ever discover which actresses Joss had his affairs with?

I would disagree, he WAS irreplaceable, look at how Buffy season 6 suffered without him. My problem is so many of these folks now complaining were quite happy to keep working with him and singing his praises for years? Part of me wants to say "God what a bunch of namby pambies these actors are, how is Joss any different from Hitchcock, James Cameron or Stanley Kubrick?". It's the MT stuff that really disturbs me

She was an adult, she should have acted like one, I agree, he should have told her face to face. He did give CC a great send off (when Sabrina Lloyd asked for equal pay with her male co-stars on Sliders she was not only fired but her character packed off to an alien slave breeder camp).

I have sympathy with him, he was running 3 tv shows at once, sleep deprived and with a multitude of problems, the captain of his ship, the general of his army, I'm sure he couldn't be nice to everyone all the time. Okay, THAT is a lot more disturbing than to say Joss shouted at the cast.

If you read Slayers and Vampires it explains why CC was fired and it does stand to reason, her pregnancy really screwed everything up, the tatt was an incredibly stupid thing to do in a show about vampires and they needed to cut costs if they were going to bring Spike over as a regular and keep the show going.

I don't buy the people of colour schtick, partly because that accurately reflects Santa Barba and he also had Gunn? Agreed, not going to judge.

I don't know about all this, people keep using words like abuse and unprofessional behaviour but what EXACTLY so they mean? That he shouted at people? Well I guess we can give up any hopes of a Buffy reunion featuring Joss?

Did anyone else realise the little demon kid in this ep is actually Shawn Pyform? Bree's son Andrew from Desperate Housewives?

I just can't believe that's her real name?

Let me ask a question, according to IMDB The Harvest aired on March 10th 1997 but WTTH is supposed to have aired on 30th December 1998? Huh?

Back off Joyce, she was the greatest TV mom ever. Maybe that's what Cordelia did?

Just watched her in the second ep and loving it, I thought they might do a bunny gag at the magic show

So far greatly enjoying this, rather reminds me of 'Life on Mars/Ashes to Ashes'. Wonderful to see Emma Caulfield again, 18 years after Buffy she still looks fabulous and perfectly cast.

Excellent, nice to see her in such a big project.