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Being rich and famous (and living in LA) definitely changes things, but it will be interesting to see how Flagg ages with all this. Marriage and kids isn’t for everyone (I’m single and likely to remain so), but I do think as we get older the constant “dating” and “newness” of relationships is what gets boring and the ability to grow a relationship and family over time is what is new and exciting. Not saying there’s a right or wrong way to live your life, I just wonder if Flagg will truly find happiness never really committing and always looking for the next thing.

I skipped last season and this season, but prior to that Christine has never sold a house on the show. Maybe she did last season, but by the end of season two I think she was the only agent who hadn’t sold a property (on air at least)

It’s likely. They’ve been moving in that direction for years. Now that they have some personalities it’s much easier to just film family stuff than real estate. If you want real estate porn I suggest you check out Enes Yilmazer or other YouTube channels. There’s some cool stuff out there. It’s what I wish these shows were, anyway.

It will probably be a mix of Tracy as a powerful girl boss who is also a victim every time she doesn’t get what she wants.

Great actors and great filming. That being said, a show about the birth of the Showtime Lakers should be more fun than this. Magic Johnson is racked with self doubt and insecure, Pat Riley is a loser with daddy issues, Jerry West is a rageaholic with daddy issues, and Jeannie Buss is (I guess) the brilliant, young white women who’s going to solve everyone’s problems (if they would JUST listen to her). Oh, and she has daddy issues. I feel like this is a bit of a bait-and-switch as the trailers and previews clearly portray a show about a fast flying NBA team from the early 80s that partied hard and would become a great team. Instead, it’s falling into the same Hollywood tropes every show and movie is pushing these days. It could be so much better than it is. A shame.

I haven’t watched this show in years, but the fact that you thought this sent shivers down my spine wondering how bad this show has become? (And it was never great)

Never been through a divorce but a lot of it “doesn’t make sense” until you hear how lawyers get involved. My guess is he asked for spousal support as a defense for when Bobby asks for spousal support. I don’t understand divorce, but know that once lawyers get involved “amicable separation” is almost impossible. As for the breakup itself, like most on here I liked them together and thought they complemented one another. I do think Josh changed, but if children was an issue and where they each want to live is an issue than those are two pretty big hurdles that would break up a lot of couples. Without knowing more, I can’t really blame either for breaking it off. Neither is right or wrong, they just want different things (again, this is assuming there isn’t more to the story). Hope for the best for them both. Bobby can still meet someone and have a family in Palm Springs and Josh can move on (though he may have trouble finding someone like Bobby again).

You’re missing my point. This is historical fiction. The TV audience is supposed to believe in her, not the other characters in the show. That’s where the fiction part and the actor is supposed to take liberties to make the story believable. Instead, she’s so cloying and grating that the viewer can’t buy any of the other stuff on the show.

I’m out. I guess the scene on the balcony with Chase was supposed to be her “Braveheart” scene. The scene where Anna rallies Chase to her vision and convinces him to follow her into hell with her, but it was just so flat and uninspired. She wants to be an art influencer? That’s her big goal that sucks people into her orbit? This scene, combined with the yacht scene where rich people constantly fawn over how supposedly amazing she is, while she’s not actually all that interesting, is just painful to watch. I feel like this is one example of how even crowdsourcing these scripts would have led to better writing and decisions that what this is. Rich, world touring, New York socialites get scammed and want revenge while also not being publicly embarrassed. Somehow Netflix made that boring and plain.

People seem hung up on whether the accent is authentic or not, but the point is that it doesn’t matter. The point is that it’s awful and doesn’t work as a storytelling device. We’re supposed to believe this character is other worldly charming, charismatic, and captivating but every scene she’s in she just sounds like an obnoxious brat. The over-acting by the other characters pretending to be charmed by Anna, while Anna is dull and listless makes this unbearable. I watched two episodes and I’m still not entirely sure the extent of what Anna did, what her motivation(s) were, why I should care about any of this. And that’s over two hours of storytelling with no direction! Agree that Vivien seems clueless. She clearly should have picked up that Anna kept saying “VIP”. Also, she was enthralled and fascinated with this story enough to fight for it but it didn’t dawn on her that Anna would be on Instagram? And the writing is so bad I can’t tell if Vivien likes Anna, believes her, is using her for the story, is charmed by her. It’s ok if the character changes her feelings over the course of the story but she just seems aimless. She doesn’t even seem to have an angle for this story other than she’s determined to write it.

It really all depends on his “next big project.” If he never appears on TV again (not likely) or gets his own show on Bravo or Netflix (possible) then a lot of the questions on this thread get answered. I, for one, think he gets his own show. I’d never watch it, but putting him on two franchises suggests Bravo values something in him.

All I can think of is the reporter from the Simpsons when Krusty announced he was retiring. “But Krusty, why now? Why not twenty years ago?” 😂😂😂

If the ratings are decent they’ll probably turn this into its own show and keep the original, too. All these companies want more content. Maybe that’s why they brought Fredrik in, because Bravo knew they’d be pulling the Josh’s away and wanted to bring in a “known quantity” to replace them. If that’s the case, I give Bravo credit for planning this far in advance. I mean, back when they wanted to build a show around Lisa Vanderpump she just pitched them to film her staff and they created Vanderpump Rules. They didn’t really do a “trial” show. Same with Below Deck and other spin-offs.

To be clear, I think the events happened just not in real time as we saw them. My guess is Bravo and Josh knew what was going on and Josh was dealing with the fallout. But I suspect Bravo planned the phone call on the plane so that Josh and Josh could discuss it on the show. And I think Bravo asked Josh to handle calls in Aspen while they were filming. These shows are highly manipulative and lazy when it comes to filming. They aren’t filming 24/7 hoping to catch stuff, they set up scenes and have the people hit their marks like any other actor. You see it in Made in Chelsea all the time. I forget what show it was, but there were witnesses reporting the Bachelor of some show where the cast was going through the scene over and over again to get it right. It’s not scripted, and there is reality to what’s going on, but Bravo definitely cuts corners to get what they want.

Really liked the first J and J episode, but could already see by ep 2 that they’re trying to drum up more Drama. Look Bravo, all we want is hardworking people doing a good job and some cool real estate. That’s it. Keep it simple, stupid. The first episode was quick and focused, the seller didn’t get fake offended that they had to sacrifice some potential profit to sell quickly, the buyers weren’t fake postering that the house was way overpriced and would never sell. And episode 2 showed we don’t even need to see deals get done for this to be entertaining. I don’t think Josh and Josh will actually fight enough to mess up their friendship, but the previews suggest there’s some manufactured Drama coming up (Altman is purposely late to teach Flagg a lesson and so they’re both angry just because). As for the Fredrik stuff, I’m guessing he did leak the story but doubt we saw it happening in real time. I’m always dubious that they get these “surprise” phone calls while the cameras just happen to have a scene staged. My guess is Fredrik spilled the beans which is a jerk enough move, but that Flagg was already on his way out and the news didn’t hurt him as much as they’re projecting. Like having Bobby and Heather around to balance things out. They bring a better energy than having the other realtors there. I’m not sure why, but on this series it’s much more evident how much plastic surgery Bobby and Flagg have had. I worry what they’ll both look like in another 5-10 years. Oh, and I can do without Dr. Drew on the show. I get that they wanted to bury the hatchet between Josh and Josh but Dr. Drew just seems like a poor choice given all his controversy.