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Might not have been my first thought in reading this but it certainly is a close second! Reading here instead of watching on tv is turning out very enjoyable! Almost like listening to Radio RHONY -- I can imagine these characters without actually having to, y'know, *see* them being their mean-ass selves. Carry on!--please and thank you!

Love this! I'm the least Sonha-like person of anybody I know!!!

Browsing around after-hours and in re-reading this, I'm more convinced than ever that I won't watch or record another NY episode, ever. However, I'll be here regularly to read the clear analyses and snark from folks like @lunastartron and @zoeysmom and too many more to mention or I'd mess up my reply. You all rock!

@HunterHunted -- I'm briefly stopping by to Thank You for all the links on Lee Radziwill, et.al.! Will be back after I finish them all. Fascinating!!

Oh, mother, I'm so slow. Of *course* Sonja jammed herself into the jammies -- it was a payback at Dorinda for Dorinda's tirade against her (the "Holland Tunnel EZPass" rant). Like an animal peeing on its territory, or like a guy urinating on an enemy's grave. Can't believe I didn't pick up on it til now! Had D reacted angrily, S would've had TH points for a year: "I keep ALL my things in zippered bags, that really doesn't signify anything" and "Couldn't she just have offered me a different pair? Didn't her mother bring her up better?" and "I surely couldn't have come downstairs naked" and "I'm surprised she let me sleep IN a bed! What, will she have an air mattress next time?" and "Well, of course: I looked SO much better in them than she ever had!" and "Obviously, gracious hospitality differs from one person to the next" and "In Europe, it's a sign of honor to wear someone else's lingerie" (overpronouncing the word for effect, LAWWWN-zheh-reh"!) She'd cast herself as the victim and be GLAD, glad I tell you, that she hadn't gotten an invite the year before!

All of this! I keep wondering why she even participates on RH. Enjoys the spotlight, I guess.

And who are gone, presumably never to be heard from again? Again, I realize that it's not the show I enjoy at all, it's the commentary by people online, esp. here ... carry on, won't you all??? *emoji o'delight!*

ROTF! I'm gonna steal this!

Whoa, that's some CV for ole Luann. As a newcomer with no desire to watch earlier seasons, I had no idea. Again, my first impression of her was trying to be stoic and humble while Ramona tortured her. The more I learn ... I'm not fond of any of these nuts! Well, maybe Dorinda.

Y'know what, you're right---in my zeal to explain about the Radziwill lineage it never Occured to me to say, "most widows keep their own names, why not? Divorced without children, that's another matter entirely." It was equal parts zeal to educate (!?) and a growing dislike for Carole, now that I think about it. Thanks for the reality check, @ShawnaLanne

I'm guessing that the homeowners do various amounts of retrofitting and redecorating once Chimp's crews have carried away the $70/apiece toss pillows, etc. Pretty sure that's why most of the post-rehab footage is shot in the kitchens, where not much is apt to be changed out. In a very early episode, the post-rehab footage was filmed in the living area, where the thousands-of-$$$ couches had been replaced with some that very likely came from the family's previous home. I noticed it and I'm guessing JoJoprah and the show runners did, too! Hee!

Ooh, if I could find a copy I would read it yesterday! During the run of Feud, it was revealed that copies are scarcer than hens teeth and that the movie was way overdramatized and exaggerated in contrast to the book.

Dunno about Tinsley, but Carole's MIL Lee Radziwill is still legendary in society circles as the fashionable sister of the late Jackie Kennedy Onassis, the widowed First Lady of the USA and also widow(ex wife?) of probably one of the worlds richest men at the time. Carole's family's name is (IIRC) of Italian derivation and I imagine she hasn't used it since she was married to co-worker Anthony Radziwill (may he RIP), who would've been a prince if Poland were still a monarchy. TL;DR -- it has a LOT more cachet than her family's name.

Preach! I'm heading for Ground cover instead of grasses on my lawn -- sedges, clover, henbit, etc. stuff that grows naturally in our fertockteh climate. I have noticed that Chimp & JoJoprah tend to replace worn out plantings with shrubs that grow well in mulches and gravel, being a little bit (at least) economical, yes?

Oh that makes sense about the presentable part! Back on real topic, I never have liked Ramona, come sit by me?

I know I can't do without it, anymore! As I watch FU and Home Town, I think how tall ceilings historically were built for maximum cooling via airflow, pre-AC and when sleeping with windows open wasn't as dangerous as it is now. I wonder how the central AC operating costs will be, and mostly I wonder if the homeowners ever hang shutters or other opaque window treatments. I keep my verticals closed on the south of the house in the afternoon and the drapes on the north pretty much all day. Yet neither JoJoprah nor Erin have much more than gauzy panels, if that. *About "JoJoprah"--I'm using that as a term of endearment, along with "Chimp." Because he clowns like one, and while I'm sure her clients have a very substantial say in how their homes turn out, the way production presents the design meeting -- clients respectfully and worshipfully silent except to murmur in agreement while JoJoprah describes the plan -- makes me think of the Mighty O and her devoted audiences. NO disrespect meant! Just my lame-o attempt at nickname humor.

Ah, I see what you mean. My personal experience is with good, thick hair -- which I keep short-- and to me, "product" is heavy gel to keep spikes spiky or flips flippy. No AC near the beach!? I feel for you. I visited Nova Scotia in the summer and was dismayed by the heat & humidity. I expected hot, humid weather on the southeast coast and thankfully my hosts had AC there.

Trooper York, would you and Mrs. Trooper please adopt me? "New skinnygirl bra, ... product placement," indeed! LOL! And Jules -- let's not forget good old Radzi body-policing ("So hard to watch her eat" "She's thin, very very very thin" etc ) a woman with an eating disorder. Just as some are Queen Of Denial, CR is Princess Of Projection.

See, that describes Ro to a T back in the Heather Thomson days!

Ah! See, I did not know this part! Thank you for the background. Thank you! I thought I was the only one who wondered this!

Made me LOL and that's always welcome. Thanks!

I do, too! And yet I think the very best thing for her is to stay off this show.

Those two used to be the silly, fun-loving drunk aunties and occasionally a voice of sanity (compared to Aviva, who wasn't?) but now they're unremittingly vile. Am I The only one who doesnt make the guest bed I've slept in, when I leave? But I don't just leave it unmade-- I at least turn the coverlet or spread down on the foot of the bed, leave the sheets loosely bunched in the middle and the pillows to one side so the host/housekeeper has everything reasonably handy to gather up for the laundry. Oh -- maybe that was what Dorinda meant by "make the bed." As opposed to leaving it a total mess...which would be Ramina's default behavior, I imagine. Entitled wretch.

Oh ladies and Trooper York ( I know there are other gents here, but I'm too new to know who they are), if I could quote all the wonderful lines that have me nodding line one of those drinking-bird tchotchkes, it would go on for pages. Y'all are 10,000% more enjoyable than the show! Not a Beth fan -- not really a fan of anybody except Bluestone so maybe Dorinda -- but all this to-do over her leaving the scene of a fight has me amused. Again, the first season I watched was Aviva's first. It never failed to frustrate the dickens out of me that Ramona's MO was almost consistently to confront her foe of the moment, hurl an insult or accusation, then whirl around 180 degrees with a self-satisfied and evilly smug smirk and flounce off. Mario in tow, of course. And now she is distraught when others play a version of that game? In some cases, a version that may actually demonstrate a deliberate trend toward improved mental health?! I've figured out what I enjoy about RHONY: these discussions and the recaps here (& yon). Thank you for watching as long as you continue to enjoy it more than not! I'll be enjoying the commentary and give & take and insights! Sorry, Andy darlin', one less viewer for you!

Really? I thought it was adorable! If only STAM hadn't been rubbing her stank all over it. Dorinda's tirade on her ass a few weeks back should've been harsher, preemptively, for the fact that Sonja not only dug through D's dresser drawers but opened up zippered cases to get to lingerie she had NO right to wear!