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I'll take more time to answer later if I can but I find that to be a very biased POV against Julia. For correction, Alice become a niffin in season 2 episode 3. As for Julia, when Reynard appeared he was about to rape Katy and Julia coul have fled but she put herself in his way to give Katy a chance to run... A sacrifice that destroyed her and explains her betrayal at the end of season 1. It was not for power but for revenge.

Julia has sacrificed herself several times during the first 2 seasons. Could you give expemples of when you see Alice being punished?

They did when Julia showed Katy a book to tell her of her discovery in S02e12. Katy: "Persephone is Our Lady Underground". And before that s01e11, Richard to Julia: "Hades created the underworld, runs it with his wife Persephone". Most importantly. When Julia and Quentin are in the Elysium, Julia sees a painting of OLU so she asks a shade, Eugene, who it is. Eugene: "That's Ms Persephone..." I hope it helped.

I think it fits him. He has no trouble with the women who are already into him are in for a one night stand. He plays his usual impressive intellectual self like he started at the dinner at Ashley's house. Carmen is different because she is not buying in the whole character he has built for himself and tries to sell to others including his family. She almost only takes him as the Duc underneath and that's a man who is lost if he doesn't wear his mask. At the same time Duc seems attracted to her for more than just sex and as a man who has never dated, he is awkward.

To add to that, the moment she ashed Ashley "You still think I look down on you for what you do? It's not true. That's ancient history, and I'm so proud of you". This is Audrey 4 episodes earlier talking to her daughter about her work: "this is so much easier than trying to make the world a better place". Audrey is the worst.

Reynard called Hades his step-dad. His foxy side must come from somewhere after all. I don't see Margo being so much better than Elliot in the role. She has not done much good for Fillory as I recall. She's excellent at finding quick solutions for their personal problems but mostly I saw her starting a war and Elliot ended it. She can still rock the role though. Rafe calling Tick "Your Grumpiness"...

Julia has been the ruin of the McAllister, something fierce. She took the key, freed their fairies, and for the sole survivor, she took their new ground (since they bought the school but Julia has put protections around it for McAllister not to come back). Keep at it Jules, I can't wait to see what you're going to do to them next!

S02e09.

It's considered a time loop by Dean Fogg but also the Underworld when Julia and Quentin register. An other occurence is when Penny is about to enter the Poison Room, Sylvia tells him she has watched the librarians reshelve his book 39 times and calls it a time loop. Zelda (the head librarian) refers to it when she calls Margo Janet: "Actually it's Margo", her answer: "This time". She alludes to it when Penny meets her for the first time.

I think it's due to the fragile nature of their realm. If someone sneaks in and removes the key, their realm disappears.

But Quentin only had one book.

Julia has the essence of a god who hurt her badly. She saw her eyes glowing the same way Reynard's did when he stood above her and raped her. She also was pregnant with him and lost part of her soul with the baby (and that's only a part of what happened with Reynard). I think she has the right to feel how she does right now: forced to always be in the presence of her aggressor. Kady is most likely going through the natural mourning/loss passage. Being angry at a person you've lost, for not being here, for abandoning you, not honoring their part of the relationship... even if the other party is not responsible.

My post is probably going against the grain but... Rewatching the pilot I see it's actually Flynn who invited the 3 librarians and the Library only followed his impulse. Also they run around the world telling left and right not to use magic, not to use artefacts, Jenkinks tells the Librarians not to open the scroll but Cassandra does and they use magic which they know has consequences. So I find them responsible for what happens to Jenkins (even if he did not deserve that). Was it the Library or the Library controlled by the spell? I don't think it matters, they used what they knew was very dangerous magic to sort out an issue when they didn't need to and then start crying wolf as the dangerous spell from the dangerous artefact turns out to be dangerous... I saw Flynn being captured miles away and yet I didn't think Nicole was behind it. Hopefully him not quitting will leave him with at least a semblance of memory.

Often some good moments when it's Stone and Jones bickering. Of course the obvious is on display here as Flynn is the only well rounded librarian. Cassandra is hard to watch for me and I'm still not over the fact that she's never apolozied for her past actions (if I remember correctly). Does Eve know where the heart is ?

Jace's use so far has been for us having eyes on the side of the law/politics... I think they can only drop him if they find a replacement.

I thought the episode demolished the plot of season 1 which is essentially Amen trying to convince Lucy to go back. But the deal to let Lucy be breaks that entirely. Also it reinforces this new idea that Lucy and Maze are absolutly useless in hell : now all souls create their own hell and none has ever been able to escape. Maze doesn't even have choice in the torture tools so why did she want to go back and plotted with Amenadiel if it's to do nothing ? One can't punish the other one can't properly torture.

The last folder had the name GAUDIUM.

True but we also have the reverse case between Owen/Regina and Snow/Regina where in case 1, an adult directly destroys a child's life, leaving him without guidance (both parents dead) in a world where talking about his experience (magic) will isolate him even more. Snow was a child that was manipulated by someone who obviously already knew about Regina's secret. Regina (a grown up) decided then to blame Snow and not her mother and discovered soon that her mother had been planning most of it but she chose to ignore it.

Emma has now faced countless vilains and she still look as barely competent as ever. Henry saved her last time by bringing her the page and he does it again making his mother look like an amateur and the Black Fairy an idiot for underestimating him twice. Twice she lets him loose while she gets rid of the others and twice he manages to undermine her ludicrous atttempt at manipulating the Savior. The first time was already funny: "I am the evil that makes all evil shudder in fear. I have been at it for thousands of years in my realm: pampering babies, facing a myriad diapers, telling them goosbumps stories. My evil has no bound because I know my way around the Orphans..." The Lana/Regina love fest has seriously reduced my appreciation of an otherwise mediocre ending. As if this insulting and pointless story about Regina/EQ who are not the same person because they are, but the also are the same person or maybe not certain convenient moments. The page was supposed to be closed on this screen hogging story but they also had some with the dwarfs. The best she has done for the people of this town was to tell them that she didn't always make it easy for them, and even that huge understatment took more out of her than the tasteless dinner she tried to prepare for Owen and his father. Belle is now forced to hide behind the furniture... that little side story had as much consistency as Emily's actiong skills and it was it disappeared faster than a dragon rushing after David and Hook. Belle is like the entire season: a mess. We went from Land of Untold stories with Jeckyll & Hyde to EQ surfing on lameness to Giddeon to Jafar to the Black Fairy. This season was never focused on anything and characters that usually suffer suffered more. I find it hard to say anything positive without dissing the same positive aspects. The episode was just weak.

The poor man has been stuck with Emilie de Ravin and her awe inspiring performances for 6 years (and bad scipt). To still manage to reach that level is pretty impressive.

Did they ever explain how Snow got the dark fairy dust? If not this nonsensical arc would have been the perfect opportunity to answer it instead of more flashbacks on how to make Snow look worse.

Good but almost pointless. That's how the episode felt to me. A bit like the Black Fairy: now all the vilains do on the show is stand in front of Emma and either cackle like maniacs because she's too lame to do anything or wait in fear that she finally gathers the strenght to do something. Seriously the biggest, baddest vilainnest vilain of all times stands in fear while Emma is on her feet, and waits that Henry enters the room, reads the entire page to Emma and waits for Emma to start singing to throw a weak lazer. She could have at least try to kicks Henry in n*ts. Meanwhile Emma would rather sing than getting rid of the BF and all her problems altogether... Emma learning she isn't alone isn't exactly new. Haven't we seen this is seaon 1 and 2 and 3, 4a as well and 4b, 5a. It's so original there was no real fash-back for her (10s at the beginning). Each season she learns the same thing. I still think that Rumple is playing his mother. He did say that it may not always seem apparent at the time. In this new curse, he may be the only one keeping his mind and able to help. I know many people are pissed at him but with his mother be able to take his dagger whenever she wants, his only way to help/defeat her is to play along and to stab her in the back or subtely help those who can.

Zelena destroyed the fairy dust of StoryBrook, but the BF had accumulated a lot in her dark dimension that Z had no power against.

Hypocritical Regina is back! After all this circus about stopping Zelena from facing the Black Fairy (at least Zelena meant it to be a sneak attack). She now chooses to face the BF on her own and of course she gets her ass kicked until Z appears.

I think a lot of these people could be excused and ditch the wedding altogether when you realise that their predicament originates from the important people at said wedding. They have all been cursed and have to live far away from home because Regina, Snow, Hook decided so. The mayor has been poisoning their life for decades, Zelena and Emma have turned people left and right either into or monkeys or statues and Henry will lift a finger to give a happy ending to an evil witch after she terrorizes everybody but helping the poor people in town is a no!