[Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)]

2 hours ago, skipnjump said:

My thoughts exactly.  Did they just think it would make for a cool picture?  I just don't get it. 

Yes, that's what they thought.

My comment about "kids will be kids" meaning only the right kind of kids -- do you think the Rods would be all peachy keen with kids defiling a historic site if those kids were Black, Muslim, LGBTQ+, or otherwise unlike the Rods themselves? 

[Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)]

4 hours ago, CalicoKitty said:

The "kids will be kids" comments are a puzzle to me.  Isn't this group into "instant obedience"?  Don't they brag that  they have total control over their kids?  Can't have it both ways, folks.

"Kids will be kids" only applies if they're the right kind of kids. 

[All Episodes Talk: What's Up Doc?]

2 hours ago, Kel Varnsen said:

Agreed with all the Time spent in surgery how did we not get more of Hicks. Or was CCH Pounder busy with other things?

Also I would have loved if we saw more of the pathologist lady who ran the morgue. She always seemed super interesting. How did Abby and Neela not do a pathology rotation?

Also speaking of interesting actors how did I not know until last night that they recast Sam's dirtbag ex with Garrett Dilahunt. That guy is like my favourite character actor. He has amazing range and plays a dirtbag better than anyone on tv. The funny thing is I remember what happened to the character but had no idea that they recast him. 

Garret Dillahunt was wicked, unintentionally funny in No County for Old Men. In ER, he was just creepy and gross-looking. 

He was on SVU as well, I think. In one of those six-degrees-of things, he's married to Michelle Hurd, who played Monique Jeffries on SVU and Kerry's last love interest, Courtney Brown, on ER. 

ETA: He's been on SVU and the original recipe L&O. 

[Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)]

2 hours ago, Westiepeach said:

Oh, thank God the Duggars are winning against the Bates’sssssss in the grandchildren game. 🙄

Personally, I hope all Duggar and Bateseseses swimmers stop swimming. It would be ok with me if the constant reproducing of more little bigots stopped right now. 

[Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)]

45 minutes ago, Temperance said:

The Bates now have 15 grandchildren with 3 more due in June. 

The Duggar kids better get to procreating. The Bateseseses are catching up quickly. 

By my count, which admittedly might be off because I don't pay close attention: 

Six -- Smuggar

One -- John 

Two -- Jill

Three -- Jessa

Two -- Jinger

Three -- Joseph

One -- Josiah

Two -- Joy (three if counting Annabelle -- not discussing that inclusion or any miscarriages) 

 

[All Episodes Talk: What's Up Doc?]

I liked Adele, the old social worker, a lot better than Wendall. Wendall was deeply annoying. 

[All Episodes Talk: What's Up Doc?]

20 hours ago, Birdie said:

I choose to believe this as it would come full circle as Mark did a fair share of mentoring Carter when the latter was a med student. 

Kem was always so damn flaky to me. So wishy washy about things, demanding way more of Carter than he did her. He’d try and talk to her and she’d just whine and cry, “I can’t! I can’t!” Also, Kem was so up in Carter’s business regarding money (like when he said he’d pay for the woman with AIDS for meds when Kem wouldn’t put her in her program, bitching at him for doing so and mentioning also paying for her children’s meds). But she had no qualms with Carter dropping $9000+ on a plane ticket to Tokyo he wasn’t even going to use just because he had to see her off at her gate and not just in the airport lobby. Also, get a damn grip, Carter. 🙄

I saw the episode today where Banfield is taking hormones to try and have a baby. And she’s injecting them in the freaking public break room, and I’m thinking, “you can’t do this privately in the bathroom?” And then Neela calls her on it saying something like, “if you wanted it to be private you wouldn’t do it in the break room.” Banfield’s lame excuse is that “it’s 5:30 AM; I didn’t think anyone would be in here.” Uh. It’s a major trauma center ER - 24/7 service.

How many personal phone calls/letters/correspondence did staff receive at the very busy and public front desk? And Carol faxing the all important letter in the very public fax machine? And Benton, Carol, and Kerry getting caught doing ultrasounds on themselves?

In all fairness, the Benton appendectomy storyline was pretty damn funny. "Maybe I'll staple my name into his belly." "Dr. Doyle, you want to suction out Dr. Benton?"

The Kem storyline was absurd. They should have put Carter with Debbie, the ICRC worker with whom he had actual chemistry. That pairing made sense. Carter + Kem never, ever did. 

Remember when Weaver was injecting hormones or fertility drugs in the restroom and dropped the syringe? 

[Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)]

On 2/7/2021 at 10:36 PM, YupItsMe said:

It hasn’t been “her” choice. They’ve been leaving it up to God. Maybe this is his way of saying that’s enough.

She's certainly not leaving her hair color up to god. Hypocrite. 

[Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!]

10 hours ago, Zella said:

I can't even explain why because it looks nothing like it, but that dress reminds me of a full-length straight jacket, ala Hannibal Lecter. 

It looks like it's about to throttle Mullet. Too bad it didn't succeed. 

 

4 hours ago, drafan said:

OMG, no!  NOTHING draws the eye away from that aluminum foiled rack o' ribs. And of course it had an accountability insert ,and then if that's not enough, a necklace that looks like spit-up tapioca, and then a bolero so we'll know she's more modest than anyone. Oh yeah, and hair styled with Hobby Lobby Spanish moss extensions.  Cathy, as sick as she was, looked lovely and tasteful.

Cathy actually looked better then than she does now. 

[Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!]

6 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I also have watched Jill & Derick on TV and SM over the years, from the beginning actually. I just don't see the difference with Jill.

I do see a difference in Izzy - he's much less skittish. Like you said, that could be due to school.

I don't know, I think sometimes we see what we want to see, and although I would love to see this improvement, and try to see it, I just don't. 

I don't watch the show and haven't in years. That said, from Instagram and media coverage, I see a big difference in Jill. I think it's more than just a good schedule and stability could give her. I don't remember any concrete confirmation that she's in therapy, but if she is, I think that's the game-changer for her. 

I don't have any use for the Duggars, and I don't even find them interesting in a freak show kind of way anymore. But I wish Jill and the other molestation victims the best, and their abusers the worst. 

[Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!]

15 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

The big issue for me with Derick is--what will he do if he doesn't get the job he envisions?  I think Derick will graduate, find some kind of employment using his law degree as he prepares for his bar exams, and will eventually pass those.  The issue is what will Derick do if he cannot find his dream job.  How many years is he willing to stick out working as a lawyer doing the basic boring stuff?  Derick has shown himself to have a hard time when his reality doesn't match up to his fantasy.  He can't continue to pivot from career to career every time things do go his way.  

I think his "pivoting" is a thing of the past. He wouldn't be the first person, or the last, to realize his undergrad degree led to boring and unfulfilling work, and he wanted to do something else. I attribute the missionary work and reversal to the multiple life changes he, and Jill, went through in a short amount of time.

Derick has stuck with law school, and the Dullards have apparently settled down, for the time being at least. They own a home near their families and Israel is in public school. That looks like stability to me. 

Have the Dullards said that Derick took out loans for law school? 

 

[Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!]

14 hours ago, QuinnInND said:

Made me think of this meme. 

I think Jill is doing the best of the girls. She appears to have gotten away from the Gothard crap to a point, Izzy is in regular school, she's wearing tight-fitting clothes. Yeah, Derelict is a grifter and won't make it as an attorney, but overall, she's doing ok. 

People on this forum said he wouldn't make it through law school. Derick may be an ass, but I think a lot of snarkers underestimate him (that includes me, in the past). 

[All Episodes Talk: What's Up Doc?]

3 hours ago, doodlebug said:

US medical schools require all applicants to be US citizens. Or, at least, that was the case back when I was applying.  I had a friend in undergrad who was Canadian; he moved to the US at age 10 when his father took a job here.  He was a permanent resident with a green card, but had never gotten around to getting citizenship.  He had to apply and be naturalized so he could get into a US med school.  I remember this because I was one of his witnesses.  I had to go to court and get sworn in and attest that I'd never seen him break a law (other than minor traffic laws), that he was genuine in his desire for citizenship  and that he wasn't planning to overthrow the US government.  I must've answered the questions correctly because he got citizenship.  He also got into med school and continues to live in the US.

The whole story with Neela's parents was just ridiculous, IMO.  Certainly, there is cultural pressure for Asian Indian kids to do well in school and aim for major careers; but, as far as expecting Neela to put her siblings through school; even if she did dermatology, it would be 3-4 years before she'd be out in practice and making enough money to help out anyway.  And, yes, if Neela still had British citizenship, she should've gone to the UK where undergrad and med school are combined into a 6 year program and the schooling is government funded.  The training in the UK is completely different in the US, but the medical system is excellent.  Of course, graduates of UK med schools couldn't come to the US and practice without completing a residency in a US hospital.  Even if Neela was trained in the UK in the best dermatology residency there and went out and practiced for a decade as a top dermatologist; she'd have to repeat the residency if she wanted to practice in the US.  The only country where a residency would be accepted for US practice is Canada.  We sorta saw that on ER when Elizabeth had to do an internship.  In real life, she'd have had to do an entire 5 year general surgical residency which is why docs who've completed training in the UK rarely emigrate here.

I went to undergrad with international students who were applying to med school and weren't citizens yet. I checked with Dr. Google -- it's complicated and not common, but not impossible. https://studentaffairs.jhu.edu/preprofadvising/pre-medhealth/applicants/special-applicant-groups/international-applicants/  

As for the rest, number one, this is ER world, where nothing in the later seasons resembled reality. My guess is that Parminder Nagra could not act with an American accent, so they had to make her British. If she had a facility for accents, they could have made her be from Michigan, and had entire plotlines about Chicago v. Detroit and who had the best paczki or whatever. (Pratt had family in Detroit so they could have bonded over it and pissed off Jing-Mei even more.) It would have been more believable, but by that point the writers weren't going for authenticity. 

I remember an episode in which Neela (at work, of course, for ostentatiousness) was writing a large check to her parents for her siblings' education. Wonder Doc Abby commented on it, I believe. If I have time anytime soon, I'll watch some episodes and find out which one it was. 

[All Episodes Talk: What's Up Doc?]

19 minutes ago, Kel Varnsen said:

Some googling tells me that even forgetting about international students, US medical school tuition for US residents is significantly higher than what UK residents would pay to go to a UK school. So do we ever find out why Neela studied in the US.

I am also curious if Neela would even be able to stay in the US. I mean she would have been in Chicago on a student visa right. I would think those expire when you are no longer a student.

But remember, this is in ER world. 

[All Episodes Talk: What's Up Doc?]

3 minutes ago, Kel Varnsen said:

Seems like a likely reason. Because really if Neela's family was concerned about having money to send the rest of the kids to school, wouldn't sending Neela to med school in the UK be an obvious way to save cash. Because I don't know what universities in the US are like but in Canada they really stick it to international students and tuition is like 3 times what it is for citizens.

I'm not sure if it's three times the rate for citizens in the US, but International students pay full tuition price. No loans, no grants, none of that. One of my professors in undergrad made a point of saying that's why our university had a very large international student body. 

I think ER stopped being good, at the very latest, at the end of season seven, with the exception of certain episodes. By the time Neela and Ray and Morris arrived, it was a joke. Not even mentioning Super Doc Abby. 

[All Episodes Talk: What's Up Doc?]

45 minutes ago, Kel Varnsen said:

Yea he said that and I get that there were expectations they had of her. But at the same time, aren't there a of medical fields that are considered lucrative? Especially in the US? Why dermatology vs any other medical specialty?

Who knows? Her internship was to be in internal medicine leading to dermatology. Maybe her parents thought it would be enough of an intellectual challenge, while also being lucrative but allowing time to have a family. Maybe they picked dermatology at random and thought she'd pick something else like nephrology during her internship. Maybe ER already sucked at that point, and the writer who wrote that episode had just returned from getting his acne treated at the dermatologist's office! 

[All Episodes Talk: What's Up Doc?]

15 hours ago, Kel Varnsen said:

I think like @readster said there was a line about how they hadn't gotten around to doing the adoption yet. But I find that hard to buy for Weaver based on her personality. Plus, and I'm no lawyer, even if adoption was a long drawn out process she probably could have just had Sandy change her will to give Kerry custody of the baby in the event that she died. And considering how many times Sandy and her crew ended up in the ER that would have been smart.

Also kind of annoyed with the Neela storyline so far. Ok she doesn't want to be a doctor but again I have no idea why she chose dermatologist for her specialty. Plus they keep talking about how you have to complete your intern year to get your license. But can you actually do anything after having just that inter year?

When her parents came to Chicago to force take her back to Ann Arbor, I think her father (always Mr. Bhamra to me) said something about dermatology being a lucrative field. They expected her to help her siblings through school since the family had sacrificed to send Neela to college and medical school. 

[Hoarders - General Discussion]

You know you've been watching too many episodes of Hoarders when your to-do list includes "take pop bottles to car" to return for the ten cent deposit -- and every time you look over your list, you think it says "poop bottles." I am so disgusted. 

I have been watching, or listening to while I work, all the episodes on Amazon Prime. Some of them are burned into my brain. I'll have to reread this forum to see if there are any updates on them. Shanna in Washington is the first one who comes to mind. 

[Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!]

On 1/19/2021 at 2:09 AM, GeeGolly said:

Yikes. Hopefully Miss Cathy and the rest of the family hasn't been exposed. It seems unlikely Deena had it at Christmas, unless she's been having symptoms for some time. It usually takes two days for test results and most wait a few days to get tested after symptoms start, so that puts her at about 2 and a half weeks out from Christmas. 

I hope she ends up with a mild case and recovers quickly.

That's a generalization and not necessarily true. I got tested immediately after symptoms started. My first test took three weeks (seriously). Second took a week. My test and retest when I actually had covid-19 took four days each. However, I spent most of the month before my diagnosis listening to the hoaxer at the next desk cough and cough and blame it on "allergies." He never got tested at all. 

Topic: I'm sure Derick's definition of civil rights law has nothing in common with the ACLU. 

[Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!]

1 hour ago, laurakaye said:

Why is Waffle House sending swag to the husband of a Z-list reality celebrity?  Surely they don't need Derick's endorsement - their waffles and bacon and coffee speak for themselves!

(now I want Waffle House but curse it, they refuse to cross the border into Michigan). 😞

There's always a National Coney, which I think is better anyway. *neighborly wave*

[Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!]

7 hours ago, Snow Fairy said:

Well, he is better looking than other Jill's husband... 

David was so unattractive even when younger

I read that as "Jill's other husband" and my mind jumped to her brothers. My mind is deeply troubled now because I don't understand how or why this thought process happened. 

[Michelle and JimBob aka J'Chelle and Boob]

2 hours ago, rue721 said:

Yes, I agree completely.

Also, for Jana and Anna and probably many/all of the boys, they probably pay for virtually everything by credit or debit card with the statements going to JB, and I would bet dollars to doughnuts that he combs through those charges to make sure they’re “appropriate.”

This is the family that claimed their adult children requested the parents use “covenant eyes” for their internet usage and insists on “accountability partners” to accompany adults to hotbeds of lechery like the grocery store. I am sure that all purchases made with JB’s money and/or by someone JB considers under his control are all subject to monitoring and inspection, based on JB’s whims.

Involuntary cackle for "hotbeds of lechery like the grocery store." 

 

[Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!]

On 1/13/2021 at 4:51 PM, ozziemom said:

My pet peeve is saying “my OCD kicked in” when you try to keep things neat. Anyone with OCD knows that is really not what OCD is and feels marginalized by the casual use of the term.

I hate the ever-popular "I'm OCD." Unless OCD is your name, you're not! 

Language is important. 

Back on topic -- after the filth and crowding the older Duggarlings experienced growing up, I wouldn't be surprised if one or more of them has issues with cleanliness and neatness. NOT OCD. 

[Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!]

9 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:

Jill has an IG story about dealing with anxiety. I wonder if she in fact has anxiety and gets counseling for it. As a longtime sufferer of anxiety I feel like it's one of those illnesses that's dismissed by people a lot.

I have a generalized anxiety diagnosis, and I agree that anxiety is frequently dismissed. At the same time, I think anxiety is often overused (or misused) as an excuse by people who don't actually have anxiety. 

I think Jill does have anxiety. It's no surprise after what she went through from the time she was a young child, thanks to her worthless parents. 

[House Calls: The Cast in Other Roles]

On 1/2/2021 at 12:25 PM, doodlebug said:

Yeah, I agree. Of course, most actors pale in comparison to guys like Braugher.  I do think that the fact that she got roles on ensemble shows with far superior talent made her deficiencies as an actress all the more glaring.

I happened to catch a season nine L&O/Homicide crossover today featuring the wooden one. Not only was she not even in the same stratosphere as Orbach or Belzer, the episode made it patently clear that her only task -- only expectation-- was to be a pretty face. I almost felt sorry for her. The episode sucked, too.