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While I know the show wanted us on Team Arrow and Team ARGUS and not Team Felicity and Team Helix, I can see it from both sides, and I think that it didn't help that they were being vague about what Helix's guy did to earn him a spot on a black site. I gather that it's that he could have compromised ARGUS' agents? Okay, but it still seems a bit extreme - especially to have him locked up like he was in a storage container. I have no idea why Felicity trusted Helix and Alena so much, but maybe it's because she wanted to be able to trust them? She felt like the team wasn't getting the job done, and here's this group of people telling her they can and here's Alena telling her about a program that can find Chase after she just saw that the team and ARGUS came up empty? Diggle bringing up grief just makes me feel like the show is telling us - and maybe even Felicity at times since his death - that she should be grieving Billy even though nothing is showing us that she is/that that's why she's with Helix. She hasn't brought him up, and nowhere in Oliver and Felicity's conversation did it seem like he was even a distant factor. Also, I wish someone would mention the fact that Felicity first found out about Helix when she was looking to free Diggle from prison. Remember your own show, show. While part of me really hates seeing Oliver and Felicity on opposite sides, I loved their scenes in tonight's episode, though I do think that Oliver's "don't count on it" was a bit much. And that final conversation was so clearly about setting up a future conversation that they had to be interrupted like they were. I do wonder if the plan all along was to track Felicity's heartbeat since I'm not quite sure how they'd be able to track Chase's unless they had captured it before? (Not quite sure how that was supposed to work though, to be honest.) I'm worried about Diggle and Lyla's relationship, only because they seemed poised to have a conversation that they both know isn't going to end well with their last scene. As for the newbies, the show is using Dinah well, Curtis needs to take a break and his mask was really annoying in this episode for some reason, and I have to wonder if we missed the part where Rene was benched after the opening scene because it seems like they could have used all hands on deck for the ARGUS/Helix mission. However, I do think that the Lance and Rene scenes have been pretty decent this season, but the show really wanted to hit us over the head with how obvious it was that these two can bond over their families/drinking/etc. in this episode. I also wish that we'd gotten Lance with the others instead of just with Rene.

I'm thinking she was just on set to shoot a scene for a previous episode at the time? She has to be done. There's no reason to bring her back at this point.

I feel like we're supposed to be Team ARGUS because Oliver is?

Hey, at least they were included in this mission. It seems like they forgot Rene exists on the team.

Okay, nice that Rene's reunited with his daughter, but shouldn't he be helping the team?

It's like Arrow is going, "Hey, look, we remembered they were going to get married last year!"

Are there no FBs in this episode? Did we know that?

It feels good to actually be paying attention 100% to an episode again. (Also, didn't a pap say CP was in 519? I don't think I saw her listed in the guest cast, so I think Susan's gone for good. Rejoice!)

Rene, people have names.

For some reason, Curtis' mask is really bothering me right now more than it ever has before.

I'm guessing tomorrow since the CW released the photos for next week's Flash today.

My first thought is Felicity.

WM is also the one who said they were going to see where the chemistry took them for O/F ... and then we got S5 and a few seconds in a sizzle reel that made it really obvious the chemistry is still there and they just wanted to tell the story they did and didn't actually care about the chemistry.

http://www.eonline.com/news/846133/arrow-10-things-to-know-about-what-s-to-come-in-the-rest-of-season-5 Isn't this how they sold the Helix storyline this year? Why does this quote sound like, "Here, this is something completely new we haven't done before so we're going to do it in season 6 ... even though we said that about season 5?"

I couldn't help but wonder if Felicity recognized a line of code as hers from when she did a favor for Helix? I'm assuming that the OTA scene in the sizzle reel and Oliver's line about Helix compromising Felicity's security comes after this, presumably when she returns from Helix?

I have Spectrum and mine lists SA, DR, WH, EBR and JB.

Me neither. Especially when that group of fans organizes Twitter trends and still promotes their show.

In the comments, NA says that "Olicity Twitter fans" was a quote, not her.

Given MG's responses about Havenrock/513/etc., yes, I think they choose to forget S4 happened for Felicity unless they have to use them in the show and not just in relation to other characters. I think they want Helix to be Felicity's island and therefore they're trying to keep the audience from remembering the other things that happened so they can say things like this.

Mine too actually. And I do wonder what it is that Helix tells Felicity they're going to do to catch Chase that seems like a better idea than leaving Team Arrow, ARGUS and the SCPD to their manhunt.

If Lyla isn't involved in or knows about Helix before 519, I'm going to be surprised if she doesn't at the very least think they should just let Felicity do what she's doing (unless it's something that will affect ARGUS in some way). Or it could just be about the manhunt for Chase? After all, the episode description just says that "Oliver, Team Arrow, ARGUS and the SCPD kick off a citywide manhunt for Adrian Chase." That doesn't mean they're all working together. Yes, we know that it's going to be Felicity vs. Team Arrow, but do we know that ARGUS is going to be working with Team Arrow?

Maybe. I guess I expected an editor's note of some sort before it if it was? If so, then, reporter, just report on the show.

That annoyed me. It annoys me when any showrunner/EP calls out any group of fans of a show in an interview. Just talk about the show and what's going on. There's really no need to do that because it's just bound to get a response that will probably later be used against that group of fans.