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A question, as I ff through this show a lot so I may have missed or misinterpreted something... but did Fallon and Jeff have sex? I thought they did. I surely must be wrong because given Alexis' reveal to him in the 1 x 20 ... this show isn't well enough or sensitively enough written to do an accidental incest storyline. I'd be done with it but maybe they didn't actually have sex. Assuming Tom Carrington is Jeff's father, that makes him a half uncle? Whatever, the familial connection, it is a line that should only be explored by serious dramas and not for shock value. I hope I am incorrect.

Paul and Christine really are perfectly matched. They are both just so so so bad at their jobs. Actually, it was the college educated Einstein Sharon who said Paul is a good cop. Phyllis (true to character) accused Paul and Christine of being capable of stitching anybody up.

I'm with you, Peaches.. the last while has been pure old fashioned soapy goodness... just all of it. Doesn't change a damn thing about the ratings but suddenly this feels like a soap again.

LOL - Nikki strikes again! And we got scenes for next week... Thelmas and Lousises.

Yes because why would you bury a body you didn't want found on the big, vast, comparatively remote family owned ranch when you can just plop him into a park in the middle of town? MAB is back, isn't she? You're calling her Mal to gaslight me.

Based on on his terrible taste in clothes, I have come to the conclusion Kyle did not leave New York, but was, in fact, thrown out.

Yeah, but of all possible outcomes... reverse aging? It's these little things that drive me craziest.... if they can't be able to write a tight, roughly credible set of circumstances, it feels like they're disrespecting the audience. And fundamentally, to me, that is what has killed soaps so effectively... they went too far in too many small ways.

They were young hands... and the hair was a mid brown... I remember Alicia Coppola (jail doctor) as a dark brown. he sure isn't being dressed by Giorgio of Beverly Hills. More like the Joker of Gotham City.

I FF a lot so this may have been explained but how is it there was a board vote about Jack v Ashley as CEO but Kyle just takes the job?

Original Recipe Alexis was them daughter of a hat maker.... who may or may not have had a Royal Warrant but whom Alexis rather grandly reminded Joseph was a hatter 'by appointment, to his Majesty the King. Very special hats, Joseph. So put that on your tedious head and wear it.' Blake drove her off with a yearly payment of $250,000. So she'd been paid $4 million by the time she reappeared in original Dynasty sixteen years after her original exile. Would have been a fair amount of money when you consider it started rolling in in the late 1960s.

Another thing... there's no video anywhere showing JT on the grounds or at the house that night? Come on....

wow... that lighting in jail did Nikki no favours. She looks like a snowman in late March. You girls need to brace yourselves... at this point the only blood Abbotts left are Traci and... LOLZ!!!!

LOL.

I guess it's all degrees but I don't buy at all that Jack and Jill and Billy and Phyllis can somehow be judged as one worse than the other. But it seems like it's ok so long as you don't actually take the offended partner's spouse and be happy in a relationship with that person, and I can kinda get that reaction. But realistically I don't know how much Jack's character improved post Jill... he just wasn't as bad and, of course, once he became the show's perpetual loser at love and business, it is hard not to feel sorry for him because eventually he lost his stud status and just became Victor's whipping boy, which I never enjoyed either.

So I don't get this because... um... Jack did the same thing to father's wife back in the day. So Jack can evolve but Billy can't?

I was never a Veronica Redd fan... she seemed like mean Mamie to me... but I liked Marguerite Ray... she felt soft and caring. So recast a new actor. And, frankly, recast Jill and make her a permanent part of the canvas, stirring it up. It could open the door to bringing more black actors again (although, please, not the originals!) The Mamie clan could be a whole new family... the doctor sister of Drucilla... she could be married, have kids and a husband of her own...seocnd marriage, so he too has kids of his own and a bitchy ex wife... you just need a nexus.

Another thing I'd wish they'd tackle in due course, but won't, is the drama behind Dina's choices. That woman was a mess, obviously, for years and the implications of it are now emerging. How do any of them feel about her? How do you care for someone who needs you wholly and yet has pretty much single handedly shattered everything you believed about your life? There's a lot to mine here but that's not how we do it any more. This would be a time to bring back Mamie... or somebody playing Mamie... she's the last (not made up) witness to a past the kids were too young to recall... Mamie could know all... even Joanna Manning could apparently know all... so bring back her and give Lauren something to snark about.

Also Julia... and those legs... yikes.

Somebody said a few days ago that they thought the writing was improving and if felt like good old fashioned soapy goodness. I agree. It feels somewhat old school to me. I also think the production values have been upped slightly. The lighting is better. That's not to say I like the direction of most of the stories but I'm actually compelled to watch. I am very curious about this Jack business - I remember him all the way back to Jack the Jerk (and I always found Terry Lester's portrayal as kind of whiny and Jack as kinda unlikeable, but I've never been here for the romance... and since Bergman took over I am one those who call him Aunt Jack... though I did kinda like him yelling at nuKyle... the point being I find this plot development more intriguing than offensive but I can tell most don't.) I'm trying to figure out the point of the grampire storyline but anything that has him lying there with lighting that makes him appear for corpse than patient it great TV to me. But for me it all moves too fast, there's no build. There's a compromise between Twitter speed and Bill Bell speed. Nobody's found it. There's so much drama to build on. Every Abbott could/should have a conversation with nuKyle about WTF? The mixed emotions of the whole Newman family - hovering over a man they half despise - could be worth exploring. With the right music underneath it you'd have a great episode. My main complaint is it should be called the Young and the Dayplayers. Traci, the Brooks sisters, Jill, the Walnut Grovers, the ceremonial rounding up of the Baldwins (cause Jack's in jail? It reminded me of the old days when MAB used stage a verbal Chorus Line with the Winters all in one room)... everything seems rushed and just kinda hey, look! They do a month of stories in a day.

I'll say this, though... it's got us talking and watching. I think it is bonkers and disrespectful as a piece of writing. (I was glad Ashley did not react with glee. Sorry, bitches.). But it's a hell of a tactic, whatever happens. I couldn't help but wish Bell was writing this.... it's very Bell in its a nature... but it would have been so much better told. It would have touched everybody... this is gonna be over in a week.

LOL... Abby was 3D stunned. Dina... you're... #metoo, apparently. (Hi, all, it had gotten so bad I forgot it all existed... but today was... well it was in an odd way Bell-esque in its soapiness... secrets revealed, drunken public anger, fights and flights down the stairs... I had to return... but nothing makes any sense any more... it was also kind of a David Lynching...) So assume JT escapes, Jack shows, Victor goes coma, Jack gets charged and tried... and that's just next week as in some respects this show moves like lightning. I also think Jack's father turns out to be... Stuart Brooks. I know the reference to him was partly to set up the return of Lorie, but for it come from Dina... I think Jack is a Brooks. Then again maybe he's a Trump. Or a Daniels. Or a Mergeron. Who fucking knows? This be some weird, weird shit. I cannot figure it out. On the other hand I hope you are grateful Buttbiscuit seems to really be reduced on episodes lately. Not today, Satan. Not today. LOL Mrs. John Rabbit.

Any spoilers to indicate Marla Adams is gone? Will Dina die in her sleep in Paris?

Well, all I can say is I am glad at her age Marla Adams has work. I don't think there is anything else to say.

So a broken clock is right twice a day and this should probably go in Unpopular Opinions, but I really enjoyed today's episode... the first in weeks. It felt good and really. Loved the scene with Phyllis and Jack - writing and acting... (And I can't believe I liked the writing because it's been so bad for so long I have been reduced to uncharacteristic silence. There's just nothing to say.) I thought - where's my Kevlar - Billy and Ashley were great too - writing and acting. Anyway I really enjoyed it. I'm disappointed, more broadly, that Dina has been reduced to dotty. I think they're gonna make Billy CEO. I don't know why... just a feeling. Which will kill some of you, but I like conflict on my shows and the Abbotts all pissed at each other sounds fun to me and soapy goodness. Speaking of which, the whole Victor tricking Nikki home and Nikki buying the park with the loot... classic soapy goodness. Just too bad it isn't written for far more fun. I dunno, thought this was a good one. I apologize unreservedly. :)

This show is so bad even the production team doesn't want to know what's on tomorrow.