Lamima

You'd stated that at least Lauren knows her extra vote would not have worked because of Ben's idol....but her extra vote may have worked.

It would have if she had used it on, say, Mike (splitting her two votes between Ben and Mike). Then she and Mike would have been a 1-1 tie and maybe Mike would go home on revote.

I am liking this season. I have to say all those in tonight's, and even in last week's, episode are gamers. They are playing and not just lying down and giving up like we have seen before. Tonight was great TV, even though Lauren was my fave. She made two fatal errors, well maybe three if you count her calling attention to the idol clue, with A) giving her idol piece to Mike and B) not using that extra vote on Mike to force a tie that would have resulted in Mike going.

Geles seems to think you have to have sex to see if you might be a match. Ick. And Michael....super ick! His 'girlfriend' in the house was right there in the same room. He's mean and sick. Can't believe Geles IS Clinton's match. Maybe it's Clinton and Keyana and Michael and Geles. Any possible way?

So I think Ben and Lauren are playing the best games and I'd like them to go to the end. I was very annoyed when Ashley and Devin appeared as though they were going to switch and get Ben out. It's like why did you do the JP thing then???? Cause Mike would have been gone, the Joe and then Ben and they'd all still be in the alliance. It seemed like they were just wanting to make big blindsided shocking moves to build a resume for final tribal (where they had nothing on their resume thus far). Reminded me of the Michele win that should have been Aubrey.

Wow! Getting good now! Loved the new alliance. Was worried they'd switch and go for Ben which then what would be the purpose of the JP vote? Not sure what happened with JP and Ashley power couple thing. And look how smug they all get when they Are on top...Devon and Ashley, looking at you two.

I know....cant wait. It says 10pm.

So...Matt. I agree that sometimes he just seems to dial it in and other times he knocks it out of the park....but I like all the stuff he makes. I would love that scallop salad and the mahi and asparagus. I personally wouldn't do two greens and no starch if I were making a menu but I'd love to eat all that myself. Jen. Kate Should have toughed it out and just fired her. Bruno, who had a nasty injury anyway, could have moved to interior. Everyone could have picked up some slack. Nico. He is soooooo disgusting. Melissa, have some self-respect girl and just say NO!!!!! He just wants what is there. Gross!!!!! Pig! Kyle. Um, I have read some things about you and you are gross. So why freak out when a clean fork gets dipped in your sauce? The chef had done that too, prior to serving it. Weirdo! And you are acting strange with Kate. Kate. Why does it look like she was sabotaging Matt? Seems like she wanted him to fail. Maybe so her boy, Ben, can come back next season???? Then when she knew the primary would be super picky and tight on tipping well, then she helps Matt???? Bruno has come a long way. I don't mind him. He and Baker are the easiest to watch and most likable.

I haven't kept track of match up ceremonies and truth booths and whatnot to know if this is even possible...guessing not based on your careful calculations. But I would switch and match these....Malcolm with Geles and then Clinton with Alivia. Then Keith with Zoe and Ethan with Jada.

There are Survivor super fan nerds and then just needs. I like both because usually a regular nerd (not fan of the show so much) can still work out how to play the game. Unless they are more a geek, like Debbie, who has no awareness of the game and no awareness about the other people playing. I like strategic folks and they are usually nerds. One could say Joe is a Survivor nerd.

Maybe they could do 7 couples and do a match up ceremony every other episode and have more comps and getting to know each other activities they show. Maybe only give them 5 match up ceremonies to get it. Is the show over a month period in the house? If so, do one match up ceremony a week and do way more comps/activities in between. Maybe two truth booths a week.

@truthaboutluv Desi was a comp beast, Joe was not so much. Desi would be likable to a jury, Joe not so much.

I wonder if Chrissy didn't know Ryan got the idol. He told her and told her to fill in hole but she didn't seem to hear and went on digging and then fought Cole tooth and nail and screamed for help. She could have been playing in order to frame Cole but I don't think she was. She and Ben may have truly believed Cole got that idol. And maybe they thought he'd share with Joe. And maybe then Ryan kept it secret since he was not one of the names mentioned as being on the block. Some part of him may want to sever the Chrissy and Ben alliance since he is also with Chrissy.

How folks can say Ben is annoying or they don't like him but yet they do like Joe and Cole is beyond me. Ben is a nice good guy and a smart player. I like watching J on the show as I like gamers and he is gaming hard but he is an unscrupulous jerky douche that I don't like as a person. And C is a self absorbed jerky dimwitted douche. I hope C is next to go. Then it will be fun to watch the remaining players since they all seem to be playing (except maybe JP and Ashley....so they can go after Cole).

I posted upthread about Desi's Lauren vote. But remember, she did not know Lauren had that advantage and wouldn't be voting. In that regard, if she was told girls are voting Joe and guys voting her and she knew (which I am guessing she did) that Mike and Cole were also voting Joe then it would be 5 Joe and 4 Desi with Joe voting Ben. Why she went Lauren instead of Ben....don't know. Maybe she hoped to work with Ben. Or Maybe in case Cole and Mike switched to vote Ben (then it would be 3 Ben and 7 split between her and Joe and maybe she thought 4 Joe and 3 her). I think she wanted Joe gone without going to a tie. And she didn't want to vote Joe as a little saving face.

Adding that Desi also was unaware of Lauren's advantage.

I think Desi voted Lauren because she suspected Joe was going home and she kinda didn't mind that. So she wasn't going to help their block of 4. I think she thought the other block would vote 4 Joe and 3 her and their block would vote 3 Ben so she threw to Lauren thinking and hoping Joe would go and she wouldn't be a vote for him to go. If she had voted Joe she would still be there and Mr Obnoxious would be at Ponderosa.

Wow. These people are a hot mess. Alexis and Kareem being the worst....maybe they are a match.

Um, and Jen says to her boss, Kate, that she has been wh@&ing around longer...?meaning a) she's old and b) she's a wh@&e. Then she has the balls to be irate at the 'how old is your kid' comment. She should be fired. She is the worst!!!!

I would love it if Chrissy buried the fake idol and Cole steals it. But would she fight so hard and scream for help if he was stealing as planned. Maybe she knew where real idol was and was planning on switching for fake but Cole got there before she could make the switch.

Yeah, @Special K...made me mad that Colby didn't help Amanda and he told her to give it back to Danielle. Not a gamer on that season...Colby.

So I just pulled up the preview on my DVR and paused. You can see someone, I assume Chrissy, in the sand below the pink banner. Then you see Cole haul butt over there and the camera catches him on top of Chrissy fighting her to get idol. She yells, sounds like for JT. Someone is nearby and moves towards them, it's Ryan and he's down on ground helping. They show Ben jump up and then he is there fighting too. Then Ryan is up and off to the side...then in TH he says ' pandemonium is ensuing right in front of me'. They show Joe and a bunch behind him just standing there gawking. Never see JT, Lauren or Devon.

I thought all boots after merge go to jury????

Yeah, I am so wanting to go to Outback this weekend and try that lava cake. They didnt show Ashley and JT reunite, did they? Good on them for keeping their power coupling on the down low. I, in the obvious minority, am glad that Chrissy didn't get booted. I wish it had been Cole though.

They don't have pens or pencils and not allowed to write. One year they did Skittles or cups or something. That's what they need to do is come up with some chart. Did they not show the 'no match' with Uche and Clinton? I saw them go in and everyone was all excited and they cut to commercial but when they came back Clinton was talking to Jada and then that blow up happened. Never saw them say 'no match'.