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OhOkayWhat

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  1. Or maybe it will not happen in the show even if it happens in the books and that is the reason prophecies are different in some cases.
  2. Or because their own narrative (the show) does not need to include those things in the prophecies.
  3. Exactly. The same things some people say about D&D and Sansa. Sansa is being punished because how she mistreated Tyrion. What? The authors punish character x because something the authors made the character x to do. That does not make any sense. The characters are not real. You wrote "guaranteed", but I disagree.This is art. Grrm can change anything at any given time if he wants. Big things, little things... anything. He will not suddenly transform the books in a musical, but besides that, he can change anything right now, even if he did not change lots of things before. Why? Because it's art.
  4. The problem is that not even the book readers can agree about which one will be the ending.
  5. We need a trailer. Or even a 10 seconds teaser trailer. Something. Please?
  6. "The same" in this case is a very open phrase, 100% the same? Impossible. 99%? 95%? Maybe. Perhaps 80%?. Lots of space to leave open endings and include differences with the still unwritten books. Maybe "the same" means: who will die, who will be in charge of what and who will marry who only if it is tied necessarily with the political plot. And I think the narrative tell us that's not the case with Sansa.
  7. And Jon Snow is still dead. I think the last scene will be the same of season 4. Arya in a ship. To the West of Westeros.
  8. The question is, even if we discard romance, why D&D do need to introduce a marriage in Sansa story at this point and so late? Her narrative does not need it. Why to put effort on it?
  9. It might be a Shae situation, where there’s a last-minute shift to get the TV character’s endgame in line with the book character’s endgame, regardless of everything that came before. Nah. It was very well established, in the season, she felt insecure about his love. And how his words deeply wounded her. The audience knew his reasons, but she did not.
  10. But they put things in the narrative to make the twists work. There is almost nothing within Sansa narrative to make such twist to work. That's an aspect of her character, but there is nothing that points her like the leader of a country.
  11. Exactly. Yes, it does. We should not confuse "I don't like what happened with that character" with "bad written narrative".
  12. Maybe the previous 3ER had a guide to help him survive the transformation with fewer changes. And he was not isolated, the Children of the Forest were with him. In other words, the show gave us the reason of the change, gave us the special circunstances of such change and the change happened. Therefore, the show was consistent.
  13. At the end of Season 6 he barely started to become the 3 Eyed Raven without a guide. Before, he had the previous 3 Eyed Raven as guide. And that makes a huge difference. And at the beginning of Season 7 more time has passed in that state. The importance of each character arc in the narrative is determined for the whole narrative. Therefore they did not jumped the shark.
  14. Jumped the shark? The way Bran behaves now is pretty consistent with what happened to him (becoming the 3 Eyed Raven). A different thing is we don't like what happened with him. He is not the same person from early seasons, of course, that's character development, and character development in narrative doesn't necessarily means he will become better.
  15. It's possible. But we should not forget the real "fandom" is way bigger than all the people of all the forums together, the people who theorized this or that. We all are a tiny minority. Maybe most people think the dragons will survive and the throne too.
  16. Even to say it's obvious (or not) is open to interpretation. In my case, i think it's obvious we still know nothing.
  17. Not always. And it seems people think we have Faceless Men face reading powers or something.
  18. Wow! Are we trying to read to faces of the actors to find something, anything, about the endgame, now? Reading faces? Really? The lack of confirmation of (almost) all the spoilers had taken its toll in the fandom. This!
  19. He went to Essos running away from Westeros. Without any other plan. As I said, Tyrion asked Dany don't burn cities in Westeros and Essos. He is warning her don't go the "Mad Queen" way. In Essos DAENERYS: I will crucify the Masters. I will set their fleets afire, kill every last one of their soldiers, and return their cities to the dirt. That is my plan. TYRION tightens his jaw and looks away. DAENERYS: You don’t approve? TYRION: You once told me you knew what your father was. Did you know his plans for King’s Landing when the Lannister armies were at his gates? An explosion occurs outside. TYRION: Probably not. Well, he told my brother and Jaime told me. He had caches of wildfire hidden under the Red Keep, the Guildhalls, the Sept of Baelor, all the major thoroughfares. He would have burned every one of his citizens. The loyal ones and the traitors. Every man, woman, and child. That’s why Jaime killed him. DAENERYS: This is entirely different. TYRION: You’re talking about destroying cities. It’s not entirely different. I’d like to suggest an alternate approach. In Westeros YARA: If you want the Iron Throne, take it. We have an army, a fleet, and three dragons. We should hit King's Landing now. Hard. With everything we have. The city will fall within a day. TYRION: If we turn the dragons loose, tens of thousands will die in the firestorms. Both places: Westeros AND Essos. Nothing of the above answer my points: -Tyrion's character development. -The logical impossibility of whitewashing in this case.
  20. I don't see Emilia happy or unhappy. I see Emilia kinda afraid to reveal something, anything, with her face.
  21. Misogyny and a bit of racism?. Tyrion asked Dany don't burn cities in Westeros AND Essos. Both places. White patriarchy? Tyrion warned Dany about her idea of using dragons to take KL, a city that, as far he knows, still has LOTS of wildfire beneath it and it's full of people. It's not "the same" Tyrion. That was Season 2 Tyrion. Characters evolve. That's character developtment. A different thing is that we don't like where the narrative goes. And a show!character cannot, logically speaking, whitewash whatever a book!character did. Whitewash: a deliberate concealment of someone's mistakes or faults in order to clear their name. Therefore it's logically impossible to whitewash a Tyrion with the other Tyrion, because anything Tyrion did in the books cannot be concealed even if we create 100 different shows. They are simply different fictional beings.
  22. That scenario is one of many that makes sense after the war of the five kings. Disagree. She is very complex. That's the reason she is my favorite character. Does it matter in the big narrative?. If "yes" they showed the conversation on screen. Brienne talking with Sandor about Arya was included. And both know Sansa too.
  23. This. People commenting (in the twitter link) seems to think actors are ageless fictional beings too.
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