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8 hours ago, Bulldog said:
So what was in Adam's drawer that convinced Shauna he was the blackmailer?
It seemed to be a published book about the Yellowjackets saga. Shauna took it to mean that he had been researching her.
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6 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:
Why was Shauna so aggressive with Travis but advised Javi to run?
She was high on mushrooms. I don't think logic can be applied here.
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40 minutes ago, yellowjacket said:
Wow from beginning to end.
The mushrooms go a long way to explain why a girls' soccer team could turn into a cannibalistic tribe. Their minds were already fucked up and schrooms can definitely send you down to a bad place when that's the case.
This show has been great so far but I don't know if I'm going to be able to watch four more seasons of them murdering each other. The guys in the Andes only ate people who were already dead.
All the actors are doing great, but IMO Melanie Lynskey is really great ( I avoided writing "killing it"). She has the best performance in "Don't Look Up" as well. Shauna's face was like "oh well" when she killed Adam.
Unless I missed it did they kill or eat anyone in that episode? I guess you are assuming that in future episodes they eat mushrooms again and become cannibals? I have been assuming that the cannibalism starts when they run out of food and people start dying.
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23 hours ago, WaltersHair said:
So far all of the scenes in the opening have been in the series except the Jackie scene and the one where someone throws up and the camera pans to maggots. I'm going to bet both show up in next couple of episodes.
Are you referring to the Jackie scene where she is in uniform on the soccer field? If so, could that be a foreshadowing to something that happened in the forest?
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Regarding who Adam really is..
SpoilerOn Twitter Melanie Lynskey said that all of the mentioned theories were wrong and those included that he was Javi. Take that for what it is worth. She seemed to indicate that it was way more clever.
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While I enjoy watching the show there is really nothing happening. Laura Lee's failed attempt was just about it in this episode. I don't like being strung along with the "who is Adam" storyline. Even if he is Javi, so what? I think the show got too "This Is Us"-like with having multiple time periods. The teen survival story line is interesting. The adult story line just seems forced.
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28 minutes ago, snarts said:
The actress who plays adult Shauna is also in Don't Look Up, as the wife of Leo's character. I watched it last night immediately following this episode and that was head trip.
Melanie Lynskey. She is a terrific actress who has been in a lot of shows and movies since her early role with Kate Winslet in "Heavenly Creatures." My favorite role of hers was in "Two and a Half Men" as Rose, Charlie's stalker-neighbor.
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What I don’t understand about the blackmailing part is why bother to make the payment? Can’t the 4 women just deny what this person says about what happened 25 years ago? Why would Nat even care what someone thought of her?
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I am finding the adult storyline so stupid and convoluted that I don’t really care what happens. Tai as an adult isn’t a believable character. Shauna is supposed to be smart but she sleeps with Adam in her home in her bed, not having any idea when Jeff is coming home? The whole blackmail story is just dumb. Misty being creepy is fun to watch but how could she have accumulated such an arsenal of drugs without anyone knowing? She is stealing full vials of pills.
I am enjoying watching the teenagers trying to survive. Move of that.
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Maybe I am in the minority but i don’t think these shows are meant to be watched frame by frame so that the viewer can play detective. If the story doesn’t come across via normal viewing then it hasn’t been made well.
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If Jeff isn't having an affair then the show is working really hard to convince us that he is. He has been seen at a hotel with a woman (who Shauna doesn't seem to know) and repeatedly goes to the store at night to "fix" an inventory database issue (hard to believe this can't be fixed during normal business hours). I really hate when shows do that.
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As someone alluded to earlier, Misty did go all Misery on the reporter.
I really like the crash survival storyline with all the teenagers and the coach. I am finding the adult stories to be a bit boring, even the blackmail parts.
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How did Misty get Nat's wifi password?
Did the Nat and Misty print out all those pictures? I find it hard to believe how easily Misty laid out them out and drew the symbol.
I am finding the storyline with the teenage girls in the woods much more interesting than the adult fallout.
Am I correct that Shauna's husband is Jackie's HS boyfriend and who impregnated her and that their current daughter is not the baby Shauna is carrying?
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This writer certainly feels like Tom has been on Team Logan for a while.
https://www.vulture.com/article/succession-season-3-finale-foreshadowed.html
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55 minutes ago, sistermagpie said:
I don't honestly remember what I thought about it at the time. I know we see Tom deny knowing where Shiv is right after he finds out that she's with Kendall. He seems to be checking out her loyalty to her when he knows she's lying, but then she finally tells him the truth that all 4 kids are there. At the same time Roman is telling the same thing to Geri, who's telling Roman not to do it, to stick with her, and threatening him. But the donuts seem to arrive too soon to give either Tom or Geri time to be triggering Logan ordering them.
But for me, it's still more about the emotional stuff. In this scenario, the end of AtBS is about Shiv realizing she didn't have a husband and not Tom making a decision. And actually, the very fact that Shiv so immediately can see what Tom has done raises the question of why she didn't question him before, if he was working for Logan the whole time.
I agree that the most “important” reveal in the finale was Shiv’s understanding that her husband had gone behind her back. SS’s reaction and attempt to remain composed after that point was award-worthy. I don’t think it ever crossed her mind that Tom could be on the other side.
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2 minutes ago, sistermagpie said:
I agree. But I think that's what's happening in that last scene. If Tom was already all in with Logan against Shiv none of the stuff she did to push him away this season mattered at all. She was the one being betrayed, not him.
Do you not think Tom was the one who alerted Logan to the fact that the 4 kids were meeting and thus resulted in Logan sending doughnuts?
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5 minutes ago, sistermagpie said:
I think we lose Tom's story if we just assume he's been a mole all along. It robs this moment of any importance if he's just always been doing this--and makes the scene with Greg unnecessary. He wasn't struggling, in this case, just doggedly following his plan.
Maybe, but I think that is the reality. When he met with Kendall at the diner he was already in Logan’s pocket. He made the comment that Logan always wins and that was his likely his motivation for teaming with Logan.
Also, I don’t think he would have been so quick to allow himself to take the fall for Waystar and go to jail if he didn’t think Logan would take care of him. He knew Logan would because they were already working together.
If at any time prior to the wedding Shiv had shown more love and allegiance to Tom he may have changed courses. But, at every turn Shiv pushed Tom towards Logan. She got what she deserved.
Finally, every scene for Tom with Greg is important because Greg is the only person with whom Tom feels like he has the upper hand. All the others have power over him. Tom needs Greg to feel better about himself.
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3 hours ago, Pestilentia said:
I think Logan runs every scenario through his head and lays booby traps at every turn whether it's Plan A, Plan B, or Plan Z. The ability to foresee and anticipate every possible outcome and cover your ass ahead of time on all of them is how moguls get to be moguls.
Not only that, he has dozens of lawyers and advisors at his fingertips. It is foolish to think that the kids knew of the clause but he didn't. (I know you know this.)
21 hours ago, sistermagpie said:I also don't think Tom's been leaking to Logan all along. He made a big choice in this ep--he made a deal with the devil, one that hit Shiv on all sides at once.
I think Tom has been a mole all season. It is my guess that he was the one who alerted Logan that the 4 kids were meeting which prompted Logan to send doughnuts. You don't get to be as wealthy and powerful as Logan without having people working for you everywhere, including your daughter's husband.
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6 minutes ago, Ellaria Sand said:
He didn't leave it up to chance. He could change the divorce agreement at any time as long as Caroline went along with it. Judging by the events of the weekend, Caroline would always make time to talk with Logan if it meant that Logan would use his influence to help Peter. It was always transactional for Caroline. She agreed to exclude Kendall from wedding events to please Logan so he would help Peter.
I agree but he would want a signed agreement in place and not have to worry that Caroline would flip (again) after speaking to one of the kids. That's why I don't think the revised agreement had been hashed out in the preceding 20 minutes since the kids left the wedding.
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2 hours ago, TheGourmez said:
Yeah, it was clearly a deal he has JUST made, or he wouldn't be referring to getting "her" back on the phone - they had literally just settled their new divorce agreement. And the only reason that JUST happened, is because Tom alerted Logan. Sure, Logan would have done it in time, once he realized his children were all three united against him, but he still thought he at least had Roman cowed on his side, no matter what. Logan likely did not know they'd united until Tom called and that moment had to be now to undercut them.
We don't know that the prior call with Logan and Caroline covered. Maybe he had called her to give her a heads up that the kids were coming to contest the deal and he was going to have to tell the that the divorce agreement had been altered.
Logan knew exactly what was in the agreement and the potential for the kids to overrule him. I doubt he left that possibility up to chance. After all, Caroline was at her wedding. How did he know she would be free to talk to him?
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20 hours ago, whiporee said:
Caroline's husband wanted a title. Logan got it for him.
I'm not sure Tom sold them out. I think Logan patted Tom's shoulder as a way of fucking Shiv, who now will always doubt.
All Tom did was alert Logan to the fact that the 3 kids were coming for him. Logan had already made a deal with Caroline. Tom just gave Logan a heads up. Tom is probably hoping that Logan put in a good word with Mattson so he can retain a top position at the company.
19 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:I didn't either. After Shiv called Tom to explain what the 3 siblings were going to do (Or did Tom call her?) Tom immediately called Logan and warned him.
Logan reacted by changing that post-divorce agreement with Caroline. That gives the children no power in the business decisions as explained upthread.
I was so focused on Roman nearly crying that I didn't realize what Logan greeting Tom meant - but if you rewatch, you can see that Shiv 100% knows what happened.
My bet is that Logan had already changed the agreement with Caroline. I don’t think he would leave that up to chance. He knew that an attempted coup was always possible.
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20 hours ago, Crone said:
Oh I think Shiv knew that Tom played them. Her expression at the end- like she was broken but trying to keep her game face and calculating her next move.
I think she was trying to act like Tom didn’t really hurt her but she knows he did. She has no other move.
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On 11/21/2021 at 10:03 PM, Moviesnob said:
Damn. I figured Andy from Weeds would be important b/c he's, you know, Andy from Weeds. That scene with him and Roman was charged with all kinds of energy. This episode was just as awkward as the ones before (Tom & Greg eating 'prison food' at Denny's? lmao), and you can feel the chains tightening. Killer end with Shiv realizing her dad really does not give a fuck.
It does feel as though Shiv will be the one to take Logan down since it is for the right reasons (his willingness to support anyone just to remain on top) and she is much smarter than Kendall.
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1 hour ago, Milburn Stone said:
The vote...My understanding is Sandy/Sandi/Stewy are threatening to make an offer to shareholders that they can't refuse ("we'll buy your shares for 10% above the current share price, giving us control of the company"), and the only way the shareholders would vote *not* to accept that offer is if they thought they'd do better in the long term holding on to their Waystar Royco stock with the company remaining under Roy family management--which of course they'd be insane to think! An agreement between S/S/S and WR takes that decision off the table, and reassures the shareholders that the company will prosper under guidance from S/S/S.
I don't think that is what they were doing. They could always just buy up shares of the company regardless of who is in control. Once they did that they could then exercise their voting rights to put their people in control of the board. In addition, in order for S/S/S to buy up those shares they would have to raise more capital. Most would not want to do that.
I think it is a simple as them saying to the shareholders that "the Roys have run the company into the ground and have pending lawsuits related to the cruise allegations. We can 'right the ship' and turn the company around if you vote for our board of directors."
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S01.E09: Doomcoming
in Yellowjackets
That wasn’t my quote you referenced. I was responding to someone else.