Minivanessa

Hi small talk friends! I left cold Colorado two weeks ago in the minivan, headed for the desert SW. I've been camping with a few friends, and then at a big meetup. I've stayed in hotel rooms a few nights especially en route because this girl don't camp in ffrreezing temperatures. 🥶 At the moment I'm solo boondocking although there are plenty of other campers in the area. It's a little chillier here than I'd like but it's tolerable. I'm happy to be away from serious winter weather for awhile.

So let's get down to all that really matters about a Duggar: is Jana pregnant yet?

I agree. I suppose the worst case actual scenario was that she was bullied. I suspect that she showed up at cosmetology school after years of being homeschooled and assured she was the dogliest and Jesus' favorite. And interacting with others only at home and at church. Which would hardly equip her to deal with ordinary everyday interactions with instructors and the other students. Especially if her personality was as loud and proud and in-charge as it is now. That could have activated some mean girl measures against her. I'm not an apologist for bullying, but of course we don't know what really happened to Jill. She could be crying "persecution" over just not being included at a lunch table, or being the object of some unfriendly comments, or not be praised to the skies. Or just tolerated by the people around her, and not becoming the teacher's pet in any of her classes.

I'm glad she was a nicer person than Jill, seeing as how you actually had to live with her.

She was really living on the edge of danger for Jesus. 🤣 More specifically, as an insufferably self-righteous prig making condescending smack talk to her roomies in the name of Jesus. Yikes. I admire your self-restraint.

OMG Jill is unhinged. Thank you @satrunrose, for your eloquent and wise post above. And also - thanks to the rest of you who commented. You can be found in my life under the heading "People Who Restore My Faith in Humanity on the Daily." I looked at Jill's post about Olivia's birthday, posted upthread here, on her FB page. It's illustrated with four photos and three videos. Exactly ONE of them is of Olivia. It's a video where she's blowing out candles on her cake but Nathan and somebody are arm wrestling in the back ground and Jill actually moves the camera to focus on them, then may have remembered she's cosplaying a mother and goes back to Olivia. One video stars the heavily filtered Jill explaining that they celebrate the 13th birthday of each child by the whole family going to the mall for a "scavenger hunt." They didn't do this one on Olivia's birthday I think because Nurthan was in town so of course Jill's golden child and best friend had to be included which wouldn't happen on the day itself. I've noticed that Jill HAS to, as often as possible, mention her 19 - yes, that's NINETEEN, spelled "M-i-c-h-e-l-l-e D-u-g-g-a-r or sometimes K-e-l-l-y B-a-t-e-s" - pregnancies. The sacred number, granted to her by her SUPERGOD dontya know. Surely it's a mystery why she's not a TV star, or at least the well-respected wife of a prominent IFB minister. /s Here are the first two photos attached to Jill's Facebook post about her dramatic miscarriage and ensuing D&C, and incidentally mentioning Olivia's birth three or four years later:

Here are the (bad) photos of the retreat brochure, posted by Jill on her public FB page:

As I understand it, a husband can accompany his wife, and there will be no additional charge for him for the hotel room. This probably doesn't hurt Jill's takings, because I think the hotel charges the same for a room whether there are one or two guests. (Most mid-range US hotels operate that way, vs. what I've seen in other countries where for example there are separate rates for 1 guest in a "double" room vs 2 guests in that room.) The husband will not attend the conference sessions or join his wife any meals that are included in the conference schedule (and registration fee). IOW he's on his own for meals and activities. The lucky husbands who arrive in time, will be able to attend - FREE of charge - a Friday evening session where David preaches and they all can eat pizza. Doesn't sound fun to me, but I think most of those guys share David's beliefs. So they can sit around discussing their religious doctrines and stroking their egos about how they are following the correct Jesus and everybody else is going to hell. A fundie's idea of fun, I suppose. Assuming somebody's taking care of the kids (or couple are empty nesters), it could be a good break for the husband. He'll have some free time during the conference where he can hang out at the hotel watching sports on TV or go out and do something he wants to in the area.

@oliviabenson - bummer about the lack of cash and dirty clothes. I hope you can get the laundry done soon. On an unrelated subject - sleep. I read this online and cracked up because I can relate: "Sometimes I toss and turn a bit while I'm sleeping - and then there are times when I rotate like a gas station hot dog." Which led me down a rabbit hole of memes and quips referring to gas station hot dogs. I'd never been tempted to have one of those, despite my many visits to gas stations on road trips. And now for sure they are forever a hard pass for me. Yikes.

Wow. I'm truly surprised that she could keep it to herself that long. I bet it stressed her to do that. Heh.

From Jill's public FB page, posted about 8 hours ago which would have been 2:00 AM Eastern Standard Time (Ohio time). I don't think the photo was taken in the actual "Rodrigues Home," which amuses me given her choice of words here. I notice the absence of David. I also notice that Jill has strategically placed herself behind three kids and holding one toddler, so we don't see her actual physical size. Not body shaming, but pointing out that she filters the sh*t out of her face and manipulates images she posts on social media to appear younger and slimmer than she is. Isn't vanity a sin, Jill? Also, not a peep about Heidi's pregnancy. Hmm.

It's a short-ish cruise, sailing out of Ft. Lauderdale. Day 1: boarding and departure. Day 2: the Florida Keys. Day 3: at sea. Day 4: Nassau, Bahamas. Day 5: return to Ft. Lauderdale, off the ship by 11:00 am. There are a few days' worth of a special "shopping" experience on land, that I don't think Jill is in any position to win, prior to boarding the ship for the cruise. https://plexus.getregistered.net/2025-rising-leaders-retreat

Thanks, @Mindthinkr! Happy new year back at ya!

She may not list them until after the Plexus Cruise.

That's because Jill used them all up.