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Oh, that's funny. I dozed off during the first episode of Season 2. 😴 A few days later I tried to watch it again, but though I was awake, it didn't hold my attention and I just didn't care enough about it to try to figure out what the plot was all about. I've watched the second episode, and TBH it was better than the first episode, but still not very engaging. Agree with your take on it. I like Max, but I'm getting tired of his dragged-out separation from his wife. I've seen too many true crime shows where the guy who stubbornly refuses to entertain the idea of divorce from his wife, ends up committing murder. So, yeah, Max's attitude is sliding from eccentric to - creepy. I think this season is meh for two reasons. First, weak scripts so far; stupid plots and situations that aren't engaging. As to the first episode: I so do NOT care about valuable! artworks! going missing from a gallery owned by a rich! socialite!. Yawn. I was kind of disappointed when the rich precious socialite survived the murder attempt. Second, it lacks the energy that Sonita Henry brought to the ensemble as Priya. There's quick reference at the start of the first episode of Season 2, that Priya has moved with her husband and child to Brighton. Sonita Henry just owned the screen in almost every scene. Priya was strong on the job, and the series did a good job of showing her struggles to adjust to motherhood at home. Priya's replacement is okay - but just a different energy. A fairly fungible team member. The only thing I remember about her is that she lives with someone who snores and goes hiking on weekends to get away from him. Or something like that. I agree, the series is watchable for the scenery. I love London and enjoy the virtual visits. Give me more street scenes and boats on the Thames!

WOO HOO! Congratulations! Thanks for sharing the news.

I could never have spelled that word in a million years. Google was my friend! 🤣 Ooh. That thought brightens up my Sunday morning. Thanks!

It could be worse, given the alternate names for Dieffenbachia: Of course, the kid would be called "Diffy," and nobody would ever be able to spell her real name. Which would give Jessa an unlimited supply of opportunities to be offended and probably ensure that the sullen look is never erased from Bin's face for the rest of his life.

I've preordered the Kindle edition. I believe it drops on Tuesday. I don't mind giving Jill whatever pennies she'll receive from my purchase. I haven't read the excerpt linked above and probably will not, and just wait till I have the whole book in my hands on my iPad Kindle app. I hope she lets it rip!

I agree. Here are screenshots from her public FB post. Random thoughts: She posted at 1:32AM today (Sunday) - I believe that's in my time zone, and that means she posted at 3:32AM Eastern time (her zone). Whichever time it was, why wasn't she sleeping? The paucity of random words in ALL CAPS is rare as hens' teeth in Jill's social media posts. I can't believe she wrote it all by herself. Did someone send her suggested wording for this? She has to be SO butt hurt that she's not in control, and she's doing everything she can to play the longsuffering but cooperative mom while being passive agressive as sh*t and dripping huge hints about BIG NEWS to come from the couple Tim has been choosing Heidi's clothes. She used to wear t-shirts and normal looking things for someone her age. Now she's in a super-baggy frumpy dress that certainly meets the criteria for mawh-desty that Timbits has spouted about on YouTube. I feel sorry for her. She's going from a 19 or 20 year old, straight to middle age. He's a creep. A scary creep. Screenshots:

Good grief. Jill has been hauling Kaylee around since - apparently - the moment she and her baby were released from the hospital. Her premature baby. Who spent all that time in the NICU. But Mahmo booked an AirBnB in Akron, piled the whole fam damily into it including the wee baby, hauled everybody to the zoo, and let's not forget making everybody - including a probably exhausted new mom - sit up late for family devotionals. And now she has to haul Kaylee out to screech with the family, and it's not even at a church. Geez, Jill, give Kaylee a rest. Literally. Oh, wait a minute. I forgot. Silly me. No rest for Kaylee!! Jill and David took the family on the road and left pregnant Kaylee to care for Jill's mother and dad who were at that time staying at the barndo. Jill's mother who has been disabled by strokes and needs daily care and assistance. AFAIK Jonathan has a full time job somewhere, so pregnant Kaylee carried that load alone for the most part. Then Jill hauled the Hills off to W Va, where Kaylee gave birth prematurely. I'm not saying Kaylee would have carried to term if she hadn't had to care for her grandparents or been hauled off on that road trip. Gideon may have arrived early anyway. But the optics are, IMO, bad. Jill is so vile.

Do we know for sure whether Jill won a 'buddy' cruise where she will share a cabin with another Plexus hun, or the cruise for herself + a guest? I've seen suggestions that in the SM post where the word "wonderful" had obviously been edited into the text, it replaced "buddy". I suppose we'll find out for sure in a couple of months when she leaves for the cruise.

Sad but true. If Tim and Heidi marry, I'd love it if she turns out to have a strong character (unlike Jonathon) and remains close with her own parents and siblings. And doesn't get sucked into JillR's narcissistic vortex. But then I think about Tim, and how awful it would be for anyone to be married to him, and abandon all hope. He's such a creep. Didn't he give her some clothes as a gift? And they were fugly baggy "modest" things guaranteed to frumperize her from head to toe. If he's dressing her at this point, the future looks bleak.

Screen shot from their public FB page: There are indeed a total of 14 photos in that post, one for each product, mostly CDs. I just had to share this one because the "WTF?" factor is so strong:

. . . as soon as the Hollywood strikes are over, this could be coming our way on TLC! 🤣

Screenshots from IG story: My "IMMUNE," Jill? I'm taking my health so seriously that I got my flu shot this morning, the first day my health care provider was offering it this year. You, know, getting VACCINATED against the viruses "floating around." Serious for real, instead of this fantastical bullcr*p: As for me, HARD PASSp on the stupid worthless sh*t she's peddling.

You mean the ƨυxɘlᕋ blouse? At least, from seeing so many of her SM posts I'm getting better at reading backwards writing. 😅

Why does Jill post all those photos in "mirror" mode? I can almost understand why her selfies would be that way, but FFS, that photo of David is also in mirror mode. You can tell by the backwards sign on the wall in the background. Does she have any clue how stupid that makes her look? Oh, gosh @oliviabenson - how could she possibly have a cold sore? She's sucking down all that Plexus pink drink on the regular, and therefore she HAS to be the healthiest woman in the world, or at least in her corner of Ohio! 🙄

I wonder if they pulled any permits for all that wonderful electrical work and plumbing that her Masterful Headship performed when they remodeled the barndo not long after they bought it. Their county has building codes covering that stuff, requiring permits, inspections, and sign-off by the county. I doubt they bothered for that remodeling work, but I've wondered about the addition they later contracted with some Amish folks to build for them. Would their contractor have obtained the required permits for that work, if only to stay out of trouble with the county if they have a construction/remodeling business?

You're welcome. Thank you for starting the list! I think the edit option does go away. I can see the "edit" option for my post from 5 days ago upthread, but not for the older one (8/28).

Add me to the chorus of "WTAF?" when looking at those photos of the bedroom for two MANLY males. And as @Trillium pointed out, one of them is an adult. Per @ginger90 below, he's 20. I saw a comment on another forum recently that stuck with me. It pointed out that Jill has two goals she pursues with her social media content: Presenting herself and her family as devoted servants of the correct Jesus, who sacrifice much in worldly terms to be missionaries saving souls, and therefore needing, and deserving, the financial support of the righteous: the Grift. Hard-selling Plexus as a cure-all, not only to move product but to enroll people in her downline, shilling it as a lucrative business by showcasing her success: the Plexus Push. Those two goals are contradictory. In that post above about the boys' room, she couldn't resist saying she ran out and bought stuff (although claiming she got great deals), and posting images of all. that. stuff. Maybe she's given up the hope that someone will give them a new RV? Will stop showcasing her youngest daughters in ragbag garments? Is this the new Style Maven Jill - comfortably off financially thanks to Plexus and Jesus, who is flexing her super skilz as a bargain shopper and home stylist? Have we seen the last of sad desperate grifter Jill, sacrificing the goods of this world for Jesus and deserving of endless love offerings?

I thought about that when I watched the video (with the sound off). Those surfaces crowded with stuff, appeared to not be at all dusty. I SEVERELY doubt that Jill's own fingers did the dusting. Just saying.

I saw a screenshot of the Plexus cruise FAQ - I thought it was here but maybe elsewhere? IIRC it wasn't an option to chose $500 instead of the cruise. It was something like if you couldn't get a room because they were overbooked, you could be paid $500. ETA: Found it. Here's a screenshot, the $500 is in the final section:

Today I took my car in for routine service. I was reminded that among the many reasons I like this car repair shop - they do body and mechanical work - is the customer wifi password. Which as someone who watches far too many true crime shows, always amuses me.

So, I've been thinking for a minute about how the Plexus convention might have changed Jill's mind about her clothing choices. As we see from her social media, she spends time only with her family and with other people in the IFB world, in which females must be modestly dressed. From what I've seen on her SM posts, the women she encounters in those IFB churches and at her retreats, dress modestly and not very fashionably. TBH, generally they look more frumpy than fashionable, and as someone who's aged into a comfortable level of frumpery myself, I'm not saying that to be cruel or nasty about those women. I think that Jill sees herself as being a standout among women in her IFB world: modestly dressed and also bringing an aura of glamour and style and beauty and special-ness. IMO she sees herself as not only head and shoulders above all those other IFB women as to looks, but as an expert on fashion and beauty. Hey, she's a trained cosmetologist! We've seen how she reacts strongly, with scathing social media posts, to "immodest" heathen women that she encounters out in the world - at Walmart, the beach, restaurants, tourist attractions. She's been known to blast them so hard for their egregious sins of seductively showing skin, that her posts reek to me of "protesting too much." And I'm sure she's denied to herself that she noticed how David looked at some of those hussies, LOL. So then she goes off to Nashville, all ready to cosplay what she thinks is the "theme" with her silly "cowgirl" hat and the boots and the outfits, plus the hats and sad home-decorated Tshirts for her downline team. As @Dimi1 said, I think she stuck out like a sore thumb at the convention and couldn't keep convincing herself that she was just more gawdly and modest than those heathens. Those "heathens" are in her Plexus club and she aspires to their levels of success. I also wonder if she had some feedback from her downline group who didn't love Jill's idea of how her team should be dressed.

Ooh, you've been paying attention. That's so interesting! It makes sense to me. I agree, the famous too-tight dress (the one shown in her upline's post about the cruise win) is def not a prairie frumper. I also saw a recent photo on her public FB page, touting how much her life has benefited from Plexus. Naturally it's shot from an awkwardly high angle so her waist/hips/legs look small in relation to her upper body. Her clothes don't scream "performative mah-desty!" She's wearing a normal-looking dress or skirt/blouse, without extra layers peeking out of the neckline. And her hair is, as you said, straight. Here's the screenshot: If she ever tones down the raccoon eyes, I'll sort of miss them.

We've discussed this case upthread. Here's an update from today's news. Colorado dentist will plead not guilty to murdering his wife: https://www.denverpost.com/2023/08/29/james-craig-aurora-dentist-plea-wife-poisoned/ Also, the woman he had been dating* for three weeks before his wife died, was interviewed last month on ABC: https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news/video/woman-dating-dentist-accused-killing-wife-speaks-101151149. I'm glad she was interviewed, because it changed my ideas about her. She's an orthodontist in Texas, who was going through a divorce when she met the doofus dentist at a convention in February 2023. He told her big lies. He said that he was deep in the process of divorcing his wife, convinced her that he valued the things that she did (her kids, etc.), said he was living in an apartment, and seems to have done a true narcissist love-bomb job on her. Lots of calls and texts, she was going to visit him in CO and had to reschedule the trip so she actually arrived while his wife was hospitalized in grave condition. But he seemed just fine, not stressed, etc. While his wife was about to die. The "other woman" seemed genuine and I believe her version of events. She was vulnerable and got worked over by a love-bombing narcissist. She has also cooperated with law enforcement throughout the case, from the day the guy's wife died. I wonder if any documentaries will cover this case. It was solved quickly, so it's not like there's a lengthy investigation to be drah-mah-tized for TV. OTOH there seems to be a sh*t ton of forensic evidence that locked it down. *ETA: "Dating" may not be the right word. They were actually in each others' company for maybe 48 hours at the convention, then communicated by text and calls for the next two or three weeks, until she finally visited him in CO just as his wife was dying. She said the affair wasn't consummated. Further edit: Now I remember that their texts were described in the early news stories as sexually explicit. So things were probably heading that way but didn't get there.

@LuvMyShows - Here are a few more cases that I've seen on two or more TV shows over the years: Barbara Stager, in North Carolina, was convicted in 1989 of the 1988 murder of her second husband, Russ. He was shot in the head while he slept; she claimed she shot him by accident. Less than a decade earlier her first husband had died in what was ruled an accidental self-inflicted shooting, with a handgun, as he lay in bed. Stager was not charged in connection with the first husband's death but is widely suspected of murdering him. She is now, at age 74, still serving a life term. Eligible for parole but not yet granted it. In Georgia, Lynn Turner poisoned her police officer husband Glenn Turner with antifreeze in 1995. His death was attributed to heart disease, so I suppose she felt invincible, so she did it again in 2000 to her firefighter common-law husband Randy Thompson. Her magic invincibility powers failed and she was convicted of both murders (Turner in 2004, Thompson in 2007). She died in prison in 2010, a suicide by overdose. Jill Coit was convicted of killing Gerald Boggs, her eighth husband, a Steamboat Springs, CO, hardware store owner, in 1993 and is also suspected of killing her third husband in 1972. She's doing life without parole in Colorado. She's a con artist and serial bigamist who has been married 11 times to nine different men since 1961. Sante Kimes was convicted of two murders, as well as robbery, forgery, violation of anti-slavery laws and numerous other crimes. Many of these crimes were committed with the assistance of her son, Kenneth Kimes. They were tried and convicted together for the murder of their elderly NYC landlord Irene Silverman, along with 117 other charges. She died in prison in 2014. Her older son Kent Walker - who was not her accomplice in crime - has appeared in documentaries discussing the evil things she did. I've sometimes thought about the women who got away with killing one husband, but were busted when they pushed their luck and killed a second one: Stacey Castor, Barbara Stager, and Lynn Turner are the ones that I remember most easily. As I learned as a teenager reading all those Agatha Christies, the best way to get away with murder is to have the death not recognized as such. Not that I admire anyone for getting away with murder. I do wonder (a) how many murders are classified as accidental or natural deaths, and (b) why someone who got away with it would jeopardize their freedom by doing the same damn thing again. My level of knowledge of psychology is such, that I ruminate about it and settle back down with the conclusion that "something ain't right" in their heads, whatever the details of that are.

@abbyzenn, thanks for sharing that. I have thought that I should probably watch that episode again, when I am not so sleepy. After reading your comment I plan to do that.