Minivanessa

Here are the (bad) photos of the retreat brochure, posted by Jill on her public FB page:

As I understand it, a husband can accompany his wife, and there will be no additional charge for him for the hotel room. This probably doesn't hurt Jill's takings, because I think the hotel charges the same for a room whether there are one or two guests. (Most mid-range US hotels operate that way, vs. what I've seen in other countries where for example there are separate rates for 1 guest in a "double" room vs 2 guests in that room.) The husband will not attend the conference sessions or join his wife any meals that are included in the conference schedule (and registration fee). IOW he's on his own for meals and activities. The lucky husbands who arrive in time, will be able to attend - FREE of charge - a Friday evening session where David preaches and they all can eat pizza. Doesn't sound fun to me, but I think most of those guys share David's beliefs. So they can sit around discussing their religious doctrines and stroking their egos about how they are following the correct Jesus and everybody else is going to hell. A fundie's idea of fun, I suppose. Assuming somebody's taking care of the kids (or couple are empty nesters), it could be a good break for the husband. He'll have some free time during the conference where he can hang out at the hotel watching sports on TV or go out and do something he wants to in the area.

@oliviabenson - bummer about the lack of cash and dirty clothes. I hope you can get the laundry done soon. On an unrelated subject - sleep. I read this online and cracked up because I can relate: "Sometimes I toss and turn a bit while I'm sleeping - and then there are times when I rotate like a gas station hot dog." Which led me down a rabbit hole of memes and quips referring to gas station hot dogs. I'd never been tempted to have one of those, despite my many visits to gas stations on road trips. And now for sure they are forever a hard pass for me. Yikes.

Wow. I'm truly surprised that she could keep it to herself that long. I bet it stressed her to do that. Heh.

From Jill's public FB page, posted about 8 hours ago which would have been 2:00 AM Eastern Standard Time (Ohio time). I don't think the photo was taken in the actual "Rodrigues Home," which amuses me given her choice of words here. I notice the absence of David. I also notice that Jill has strategically placed herself behind three kids and holding one toddler, so we don't see her actual physical size. Not body shaming, but pointing out that she filters the sh*t out of her face and manipulates images she posts on social media to appear younger and slimmer than she is. Isn't vanity a sin, Jill? Also, not a peep about Heidi's pregnancy. Hmm.

It's a short-ish cruise, sailing out of Ft. Lauderdale. Day 1: boarding and departure. Day 2: the Florida Keys. Day 3: at sea. Day 4: Nassau, Bahamas. Day 5: return to Ft. Lauderdale, off the ship by 11:00 am. There are a few days' worth of a special "shopping" experience on land, that I don't think Jill is in any position to win, prior to boarding the ship for the cruise. https://plexus.getregistered.net/2025-rising-leaders-retreat

Thanks, @Mindthinkr! Happy new year back at ya!

She may not list them until after the Plexus Cruise.

That's because Jill used them all up.

@BetyBee - Happy anniversary!! ❤️ ❤️

I've stopped following this show and now that I've dropped TV from my Xfinity package I only have access to whatever episodes are available to stream on Max. Today I watched this video on YT by Dr. Mike. I think he shows compassion toward Cynthia and makes some IMO sensible critiques of Dr. Now's approach to the patient. I remember this episode; Cynthia was amazingly mobile considering her weight. At least she didn't just lie in bed and eat. I don't know how she's doing now but I hope she's at a better weight and in better health. EDITED to add: I found her on FB; she seems to have maintained quite a weight loss, so good for her.

"Congradulations."

I actually don't disagree very strongly with your position about this. I can see it, but I'm just not there with it. I absolutely agree that psychopaths can be master manipulators especially over the course of a long intimate relationship. I'm also not in love with everything Cathy did, and I agree that anger is corrosive when held on to for too long. I may watch this series again. If I do, I wouldn't be surprised if some of my opinions change a bit. To the extent of feeling some grace toward Brenda, anyway. Bottom line for me: the poor kid was abused and killed, and Cathy was devastated to know that she gave her child up with good intentions, only to have her suffer such a fate . So much cruelty and tragedy, more than enough to go around.

I've just resubscribed to NF so I'm catching up. I thought this documentary was excellent. I have no use for Brenda. At all. Cathy's anger about the remains was jarring, but I can see how she'd feel that way. After Dennis was finally caught for killing her daughter - he and Brenda trash-talked Cathy, sneering that she "abandoned" her daughter. WTAF? So giving a baby up for adoption is evil? Or justifies the adoptive parents freaking KILLING the child and burying the body? Oh, excuse me, it was just the adoptive father who did that. Brenda had no clue. Sure, Jan. "Gracious" is not a word I would apply to Brenda.

My understanding is that c-diff is more of an infectious process than something you get just from your own gut bacteria getting out of whack. I knew someone who had c-diff and it was awful; she got it from caring for a parent - who had got it while in a nursing home after surgery. She had medical issues of her own and I'm not sure her digestive system ever really recovered from c diff. Ugh. The C diff bacterium does apparently spread easily in hospitals, which makes sense. I hope Amy doesn't go home with more medical problems than she already had!