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Drogo

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  1. The Hound was outside, in the battle, with others who were armed and fighting for themselves. If he hesitates an hour in and gets killed, it doesn't directly condemn anyone else. Sansa was in the crypt with a weapon where no one else was armed except for her (and apparently, her Cowardly Lion.) Their hesitation directly allowed loss of life. Regarding the second point: 1,000,000 gold dragons to the first woman/child/eunuch/dwarf/elder who can wrestle this sword out of the thousand-pound stone statue it's built into, while running away from the undead Dead:
  2. And the moon of my life just let me know the HBO official recap says the same. Accepted. If that's the case, all prior points remain except that now Tyrion and Sansa are useless/cowardly.
  3. Then when she barbecues his insolent ass like she did his father and brother the Northerners will have enough food to get through Winter. They're okay - they were with the group of survivors including Sansa, Tyrion, Varys and Missandei at the end when the crypt wights all died of old age waiting for Sansa to not kill them because Arya's a boss.
  4. What would be really great is if someone up North had fired off ravens to the Iron Bank and the Golden Company letting them know that Cersei Lannister is not one of the Lannisters who always pay their debts (i.e. reneging on her promise to assist with the Battle of Winterfell) and that they will gladly match whatever Cersei promised them in exchange for GC not fighting for Cersei. The Iron Bank seemed quite uncertain of Cersei keeping the Iron Throne with Daenerys on her way, and it's not like she has a) a great credit history or b) an unpaid balance with them they're hoping to collect on.
  5. I believe it's a quick handoff. Otherwise where does hers go? And where/when did he get his?
  6. Agreed. And I still think it would've been better before half the crypt's civilian population was lying dead on the floor.
  7. Showing it on the screen would lessen the impact of her seemingly coming out of nowhere to kill the NK. IMO, he's definitely screaming Go! Go! If he was screaming it to Arya, they wouldn't have shown it. It works much better as one of those things we pick up on rewatch or in post-episode discussions. None of this takes away from Arya killing the NK.
  8. We'll have to agree to disagree on this: confronting an inevitable enemy as the only person equipped to do so in a pit of unarmed civilians is not superhuman behavior. And the only thing required to make someone combat-ready... is combat. When you play the game of thrones, you either win or you die. When you're in a crypt filled with wights, you're either combat-ready or you're dead. I don't accept a comparison between Gilly (an unarmed civilian with a child to care for) and Sansa (the Lady of the castle with only herself to look after, possessor of the sole dragonglass weapon in the house) as apples to apples. Tyrion didn't have a weapon; Sansa gave him hers. So what he did before he had a weapon isn't exactly evidence to cowardice, IMO.
  9. No, I don't even think Tyrion had a sword. Sansa gave Tyrion the dragonglass weapon she had because she knew she wouldn't use it and she felt she could trust him to protect her. As soon as he had it in his hand, they stopped hiding. ^This is all of the crypt scenes from the episode with the brightness way up. Dead Starks start hammering through the sides of their tombs. Sansa takes off running in the opposite direction Tyrion motions for Sansa to come with him. Wights kill a bunch of civilians, pan to Ned Stark's crypt where Sansa and Tyrion are hiding behind Ned's tomb together. Sansa hyperventilates while Tyrion continues peeking out at the carnage waiting for death to inevitably find them. After what seems like eternity, Sansa pulls out her dagger and gives it to Tyrion who seems surprised and grateful to see a piece of dragonglass in the crypts. (THANK YOU ARYA, again, for everything ever.) He lets out a tiny smile and grasps it firmly in his left hand. He kisses her hand and leads her to find the hiding place where Varys and others are, then they apparently stand guard at the entry of it (where the deleted scene shows Tyrion killing a wight who tries to get into the alcove.) You'll want to slow playback down to .25 around 1:26 to see the actual dragonglass handoff.
  10. It is, but I would've given them a lot more credit if they'd "remembered" their positions, responsbilities and weapons sooner. Sooner being "before half of their unarmed civilians were killed."
  11. Probably not since they were supposed to be locked away from the battle, but Sansa wasn't supposed to be in the crypt. So either she was trained or she was the special exception to the All Men/Women/Children specs.
  12. @JonasArm has it - the plan was for the NK to die (most likely when he came for Bran) but nobody was picky about who actually did the killing or how or when. If Jon saw Arya unhindered behind Viserion, his screaming "GO!" would be telling her "Forget about me and this dragon, get to the tree/Bran!"
  13. No one's complaining about it because it's normal for someone with no weapons training to use a weapon to the best of their limited abilities in a climate where their life depends on it.
  14. Eh... I'm not willing to believe that the Sansa Stark who MyLord'd and YourGrace'd the shit out of Kings Landing for all those years wouldn't realize that only "Queen Daenerys"/"The Queen" are respectful and appropriate options for speaking of their new Queen. (*Tyrion even corrected his own brother when he called Daenerys "Your Queen" with "She's your queen, too.") I can't give the benefit of the doubt to the kind of person who will tell her relatives they should be "on their knees thanking her" for sending a Help-Me raven to an ephebophile and not telling anyone about it so they could built it into their strategy.. and the type of person who feels it necessary to quantify her suffering as more than anyone else's...
  15. Dany and her dragons weren't in the North to get a wight for Cersei; they were there to save Jon/Jorah/Tormund/The Hound/Beric/Thoros (who went out to get a wight for Cersei.) She didn't have to do anything for them, whatsoever. But she went in an effort to save Jon and his cause (The Living) and lost her child in the process. Somehow Sansa went from "I should have thanked you as soon as you arrived!" to "Ugh this bitch & her dragons" in one week. IMO she doesn't have enough time left to get back on many of our good sides.
  16. Or, she could point out that Dany lost that dragon while saving Jon's ass. Exactly.
  17. If Sansa had said "Oh yeah well it's the Dragon Queen's dead baby dragon that the Night King is riding here to kill us so is she really saving us OR is she helping them kill us?" I think Missandei probably would've just stabbed her in the eye. Sansa's whole crypt conversation was just a reminder that with all she's experienced and seen she is still a petty little girl. Even so many long years later, sitting in the crypts useless as all hell, the petty is still strong with this one.
  18. And Missandei wasn't here for it, because Daenerys isn't an enemy of the North, and shouldn't be treated as such. If Daenerys or one of her advisors started publicly referring to Sansa as "The Wolf Lady" I doubt she'd think little of the insolence.
  19. Winter/weather will remain. Winter/NK+AotD is over. They should really all head down to Highgarden for Winter, like how New Yorkers go to Florida for the season. Not like anyone's using Highgarden, and it has the best lands.
  20. Alcohol poisoning. Tragic and so common. I heard Ned Stark developed a brain bleed.
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