still hoping

Yikes....I had to dig back to find this thread when I saw the "sad" news online.... Nice of Dani to blame the mean fans...yeah fans broke up this sweet romance Maybe she can get the go fund me money to take a vacay at the resort where season 3 Devar worked... Might be a blind guy working there? How Danielle Got Her Groove Back

Joe Schmoe....Oh Yeah....LOL ....loved the 1st one More and more this seems like schmoe show....but who is the joke "on"? Maybe us huh? Since Sam/Ashley etc have been dissected I want to put out my Trey ideas.... I think he is nice but so NON committed to the whole idea I think he fell into this and regards it as just an experiment....I fear for Vanessa when he goes back to his buddies...and again his JOB is one that is tough on a relationship IMHO... lot of hours;;;work hard play hard Some guys have many friends who are married w kids....and they want to settle down.. but I do NOT think Trey and his buddies are like that>?

I think David is cute, kind of cuddly but then again this is Merica and statistically he is right on target LOL He is NOT obese, he could easily firm up IMHO. He has nice eyes too Tres is good looking - and tall. Neil...well the huge beard....ugggg....and even the small beard just not appealing. I realize his hairstyle is stylish now but IMHO his forehead is too large and he is just not good looking enough to pull it off. Too severe. I think he would look better with softer, more touseled hair, maybe a moustache and no beard or a very short beard In his day Englebert Humperdink was totally hot - and he was 1/2 Irish and 1/2 India Indian...now I am not saying that Neil should rock sideburns but he could go for softer haircuI thought the 3 guys on season 2 were all ok (until seeing personality of Sean and Ryan R). I actually found Ryan D cute, I think Jacklyn was way over the top, and he was not attracted to her. Doug's moles would be the real deal breaker for me...a good derm or even plastic surgeon..they could remove them... he has fair coloring which means less scars ...but scars would be better. Ambitious Jamie should use some of the show money to get those moles removed and get him a good cosmetic dentist LOL

I am hoping Neil and Slam get together with his nice close knit bunch of pals and I hope they rip Slam a "new one" haha I would love to see them gang up on her - she deserves it Neil 's former gf is nicer looking and most sane people are nicer than delusional self absorbed Slam.

I can get not being attracted. Those moles on Doug's face would seriously turn me off LOL And even a good looking guy could be a turn off when u get to know them...I remember one of the "best" seeming guys I ever dated, seriously Bradley Cooper handsome, an architect....handholding - sweaty clammy hands.....I began noticing the sweat marks on his shirt....then a casual date...he was not glowing, he was sweating....and a brief makeout session that left me drenched....ewww......no ...I was busy when he did call a few more times. Yeah, superficial but eww...and I understand it might be a medical issue...but ewww At least Ashley is acting with some dignity. At the end she can say "you r a great guy but I see u as a friend, blah blah" Sam ?? Horrible. How can his and her family watch this and not cringe? ~~~~~~~ I wonder what happens with Vanessa and T when they are home? IMHO his job is a lot of hours.....luxury car sales is fast paced, many hours...and from what I have seen lot of party types.

Sam is really awful. How can his family and friends ever accept her after watching this?

This show is dragging. I thought the chiro guy from last week was hot good job/biz...I flashed back to Dr Travis on the Bach maybe the chiro has ambitions? I would have picked him - the blondie is a bit fake JMO Nurse's parents chose these guys online - why pick bald ones? Why act surprised the plumber did not to to college? Sex question Dad is reality gold LOL Gal #3 , scientist was best IMHO...but will she want Mitch? He alerts my gaydar The new guy also sends up an alert - I think he will be picky it is a weird premise and not that promising unless they get chiro guy back in the mix (pref running shirtless LOL)

A couple more thoughts ....now that it was mentioned, maybe Tres did tell Vanessa that he did not apply, that he was scouted..and they just did not show it?? Like bragging? ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Win lose or draw I enjoy Ashley cause I think she might be a producer's nightmare.....the one reality persona who gives them nothing....LOL she can't lose - win she and D find love - win win - family, friends, employers, and their future kids can proudly watch vids of a sweet love story draw.....some bumps and they divorce part friends , no harm - respectful and cool and....if it is a "lose" ...if he turns into a nut, nasty or liar etc ...she still does not lose as she would be the innocent party Plus of course they all get paid LOL Smart girl. I applauded her for nixing strippers at bachelorette party....and I still do. Various clips of lap dances, crotch in the face from other ill advised reality show participants *and hot tub, undercover scenese LOL ....all for posterity 90 Day fiancee's Loren is a recent example I am lovin Ashley....cause I bet producers can't stand her LOL

I live in Florida have been on 30 plus cruises and have vacationed on islands - both all inclusive and regular Trust me - you do not need passport for US Virgin Islands - St Thomas/John/Croix...and/or Puerto Rico US territories, you have every right to go there, they have every right to come here, marry a local ? sure NO K1 visa needed <grin> You do not need a passport to go to Ohio either Trust me - you currently do not need passport for a cruise that is round trip from US to a number of islands and us...must leave and return same port Bahamas, Mexico, most of the islands - just offical state birth cert and dl /picture id - (this was post 9/11 compromise to aid tourism and aid cruiselines lobby) You need passport for other countries of course - I have one - but I just want to state facts cause people keep saying need passport for these islands and /or a cruise

I may be in the minority - not too many seem to like Ashley - but I kind of admire her - in the crazy world of reality tv she may have the best strategy = I am sure the producers wanted more crazy from her but at least she has some dignity Just imagine how family, future employers, future lover/spouse, future kids feel when they see some of the trainwreck people ?

I love this show so far. I love that they have a real purpose to be together - the center - I think having the counselors there also can be a help I am so tired of reality shows that put together people so randomly (Little Women LA for instance - one new cast member 20 years younger than others LOL) I like all of the cast. Not politically correct to generalize but it seems many Asian countries do not accept the disabled - they do not want to "lose face". I think Elana's Mom has had to overcome her upbringing - so hard for poor Elana. I hope she is getting other help or counseling. Her pain is so real. I "like" all of them . I wish they would have a guest appearance by this young gal in Au who has walked the runways, she has DS, and is doing so many amazing things. I wish she could talk to Elena http://www.madelinestuartmodel.com/

Re the Honeymoons - both St Croix and John are US territories - US Virgin Islands - NO passport needed - they are close to St Thomas, us virgin island. I have been to both on cruises. You would fly in to st thomas - take a little plane from there or just ferry for St John. St John is beautiful, it is a quick jaunt, you can visit it when on a cruise. St Croix has a limited cruise ships calling, not as popular. the producers didn't send anyone anywhere they needed a passport. Maybe Phoenix if either of them had a real aversion to water sports? ~~~~~~~~ IMHO Ashley has acted appropriately - I don't blame her for being a bit reserved, as the past shows played up the foolishness of cast. I don't know what the real deal is with her and David but what we see they seem to be growing together a bit Sam on the other hand did not get the "memo" - full tilt crazzzeeee lady. I think she is just annoying,and I feel for Neil. So glad Vanessa did not fall into the first night trap - these 2 seem very good but who knows? I wonder if Trey went in thinking it was a dating show, rather than the seriousness of marriage? Also NO one has talked about his career - car sales people work insane hours, party hard. I know some - many divorced. I wonder how that will affect them?

I flipped through some of this it has the housewife fake feel...like some of these "friends" were totally cast for the "part" (shaved head,big boobs bi gal LOL) I always liked Monet and it would be nice to see her find a nice guy so will check back

Doherty - def Irish....very well might be part Italian as very common (Catholic) I think if she was 1/2 Jewish they would have brought it up? She is reserved but seemed to open up after hand kiss? Tres and Vanessa - wow - seems to be a good match Just hope he is really ready - car sales is a demanding job, long hours, work hard and many play hard The super enthusiastic aunt reminded me of Jessica's Mom last year Sam - just over the top. How does she manage a bank? Neil is growing on me a bit since he shaved that monster beard But Sam....kind of goofy revved up to Over The Top Crazty Lady.....yow she would be so annoying here is Sam as cat>>>

LOL...."Make Party" Did anyone see season 1, the older guy, very fit, owned a gym....and young east European gal....who stood him up, could not go through wit/h it, tlc pulled them off show and only put their story online.....he was a better "catch" than Mark, alt/hough also smug and delusional Most people called her gold digger even tho she could not go through with it I don't like to see real users on the show or IRL Who here truly thinks Nikki is in love? Nobody. Yet many worry about her - I say go back home Of course her prospects are not great there = Karaoke bars cater to local men, not wealthy tourists she apparently had a bf in his 30s, from calif she knows how to use the internet - she can try again Most of the couples had real relationships F and Caro lived together in Columbia 1 year Noon and Kyle took motorcycle trip in Vietnam Alex and Josh were friends 2? years and so forth BUT Nikki went into this with one meeting IMHO it is sort of "long con" - Mark is a dud, but she got tv exposure she can meet a better marry for greenbacks and green card guy Nikki and MO - gold diggers

I do feel for Mark's kids....Nikki doesn't....and yeah I don't care about Nikki she needs to go back to the Karaoke bar IMHO Nikki is no different from season 2 Mo.

Sorry but I still do not understand the sympathy for Nikki.... if the premise of the show was "watch foreigners hook up with Americans for a green card and a payoff" then I guess all this concern for Nikki would be appropriate from the start of this show that has been the question....green card or love? With Nikki the answer is obvious...no matter how skeevy Mark is, Nikki is just an opportunist and who cares if she doesn't cash in as she hopes? not me I think she is an insult to the real couples

I am happy for Carolina and Fernando - I have been rooting for them all along! I think they are great together. ¡Felicitaciones! I am also happy for Noon and Kyle - the real deal! Wishing them so much happiness! Oh my Buddha <grin< Josh and Alexandria? I hope she will be happier in a bigger city and being a Mom...seems too soon but? Loren and Alexie are an odd match but I guess a match...she will keep him awake for sure - their energy levels are so different he seems serious and she seems all fluff but they do make a nice looking couple and again the "edit" may have worked against them I love Mel's son - what is up with the Dad? Devar is a good guy but yeah it seems to be somewhat of a compromise deal, both are pretty happy I reserve the right to dislike them if they try to opt for a spin off - I have no desire to see Bev anymore but somehow I feel like we might have to look at this gang on other shows - Dr Phil this week....maybe Tattoo Nightmares in future? Or Couple's Therapy? sisterhood is powerful when you are on your puter -- easy to call Fernando a fat pig and worse, easy to boo hoo about poor little Nikki and such some of it is editing....I don't care how bad things are at her home, that is no reason to root for her to get a visa ahead of more deserving people While I think Mark i pretty disgusting I find Nikki equally disgusting. They both deserve each other. I also maintain that part of his appeal for Nikki was the idea of being on tv edit to add - only $2000 each? ouch

I am simply amazed that there is so much acceptance of "she wants to come to this country"..."she wants a better life" so the 90 day fiancee visa is simply a means to an end? I don't feel sorry for Nikki...I do think she might not have continued on except for the "exposure" and what it might lead to - nothing much IMHO as she is really not that attractive and not model material - then again she may find a better "sugar" that Mark or maybe she plans to get back to the Jamie guy who is 32 and lives in California? Opportunities abound for Nikki - Baltimore has strip clubs I am sure and Massage Parlors Hola

Too drawn out.....Nyle is a nice finish to the show...but to me he looks like he could get a spot as one of the muscle guys on Ru Paul's Drag Race...which IMHO he would enjoy more than cuddling Lacey. I still think Mikey and Mame were the best fashion models esp Mikey but all in all the top 4 were better than many other years models - even if the settings and photogs etc were so cheap this year. I admit I will miss this show but it was moved around and dragged out, so I would forget it . Sigh

That is good insight IMHO..... Mel is a bit delusional and seems to like attention - she likes having Devar as her arm candy Devar seems to care about her and really is bonding with her son......underneath there is the element of wanting the green card yes but they both seem to be pretty decent people Best case scenario - she gets over her Bridezilla antics after they wed he gets into school for emt, firefighter or ? and gets a good job that allows him to help his family but still contribute (lesser but fair share)

I don't think Nikki decided to be on TLC at 16...she may have had Mark and others online, "expoloring" possibilities... I think when he got the idea of 90day show that made her more excited hoping for opportunities Note Mark said about her modeling etc, she would keep that money... now...yes we never heard that before did we? BUT maybe she has spoken of that dream and producers do not show it? I don't think Mark just thought up the model idea....she must have shown him her little portfolio... at any rate I do think the show and dreams of fame made her accept when they finally met dec 2014 The other couples all had time together....even Mel visited Devar 7 ? times

First season one couple flopped....tlc put their story online....at the time I think it was said they would only pay after wed in futture we don't know for sure....they may start out with even more couples and it falls through? is there any proof tlc won't pay for return ticket? or that us partner would not have to pay? My friend who came here years ago on K1 told me they got married in first weeks as it would speed up things - I do think the show draws it out for drama Most couples were a couple..only Nikki and Mark were the moden day rmail order bride met one time deal Get her tubes tied? IMHO that ventures into fan fiction fantasty I think it is more likely Nikki is using this to get some money (tlc) get her big ugly mouth on tv maybe she hangs to use the exposure to find a better sugar dad hubby

I liked the wedding venues so much better than last season Sunshine, lovely spaces.....I am sure cheaper and easier to arrange than NYC Just the logistics had to be easier I also like everyone's apt so much better last season made me claustrophobic

Just a thought....the tv show adds a whole other "layer" to the situation I have long "advocated" that most reality shows start out innocent the first season and go downhill as fameseekers and wannabes sign up Nikkie gets paid by tlc when and IF they marry