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Me too TattleTeeny. Kyle “questioning” Suttons “ulterior motive” of cutting some rose blooms for a vase from her own bushes, insinuating it is all for show for the cameras. It was a pretty scene and setting to see Sutton in, whether it was planned or not. This all while Kyle prances around with her green Birkin in every scene. Having it out set at the perfect angle on every counter or table in every scene she is in, also carrying it to the dinner table at the hotel ,, and you can’t tell me THAT isn’t an ulterior move on Kyles part to flash her precious new Birkin in every scene set up SHE is in. So very laughable her hypocritical…. Everything.

She just wants to make fun of and put down Sutton for any and everything she does or doesn’t do. All with the mental health question mark lurking in the background of her bringing up her every choice, move, thought, action, or breath. She is so obvious in her attempt to character assassinate Sutton. Questioning her own yard full of rose bloom picking? Adding some “ulterior motive” to the act? Sutton will never win with Kyle. I hope Sutton is the one (Crystal too) who can see right through KYLES ulterior motives, and “know this”. As per an Allison Dubois suggestion. There is a snake in the grass.

After watching Shark Tank and seeing how selling a food product in retail stores is almost a near impossible business to break into because of shelf space availability. I looked at the Real Coco site and see her product has shelf space in TONS of stores, though sadly none near me. Amazon also carries it and if I didn’t receive food stuffs from them with the safety seal broken on more items than normal, I would take a chance and order it from them. I once got an order of 6 cartons of macadamia milk from there and every single safety seal had been pushed through and broken. 🤔 The foil part covering the opening. Many other items also came with the safety seal broken. I think it should be looked into. Anyway here is how many stores Crystal has the highly coveted SHELF SPACE in and it’s nothing to sneeze at. https://enjoyrealcoco.com/pages/store-locator

Yeah, the way she sat there all miffed and put off by not being celebrated, cheered and champagne toasted by the other ladies for her big vindicated win was comical. Just another poor victimized Erica moment. All the news said was that the courts need more financial documented proof that the earrings were not bought with money that wasn’t salaried income by Tom, which at this point no one can prove was or wasn’t and thats what she has been holding on to as her vindication throughout all this. PROVE IT, is and always has been her motto. A typical criminals defensive reaction riding on desperate hope that inept detective work fails or well hidden criminal activity will never be brought to the light of day. An innocent person just assuredly says proof will never be found because there never was anything to be found. Because if you don’t have film footage of Tom lurking in alleys, pockets stuffed with burn victims won claim payouts, buying diamond earrings and lear jets, then you have NOTHING, is what Ericas mind and legal knowledge is all hinged on. Hopefully some deeper digging from those forensic financial experts will turn up the proof the courts want. Courts that Tom used to call his stomping grounds with his inner circle of wined and dined associates. The ole innocent until proven guilty seems to only be working for the shadiest of characters in these crazy days we live in nowadays. Otherwise the old lady feeding cats and homeless people are doing hard time because their compassion overrides stupid new laws and refuse to allow others to starve and die in front of them because they might get in legal trouble for handing them a ham sandwich.

I fully believe Kyle is behind all this bologna the newest creature dragged out at tappas dinner time. Did you see her sitting there all smug, quietly keeping out of the mix, pretending and appearing to be separate from all that was happening at that table? I think she spends all her spare time going over old footage and taking notes, gathering all her “evidence” and then invites AM over to show and give her all she has gathered up, and then siccs her on the ones she wants gone. Crystal and Sutton. That is what a typical narcissist would do. Gather and store “evidence” to be used later, and distort it to fit into their sicko perception they want to use as character assassination fuel at a later date. The rewind back in time to Crystal saying the women were shallow and uneducated must have been found by Kyle who then showed AM, who proceeds to LIE about Crystal actually saying it to her face at a party 6 years earlier. No way do I think Crystal told AM at a party 6 years ago that she thinks her fellow cast mates were shallow and uneducated. Crystal does not present as someone who talks this way to total strangers she just met at a party. I think it is all gaslighting to try and make Crystal herself believe she actually said this to AM, since she thinks Crystal would never remember what she said at a party to a stranger 6 years ago. I believe that is an outright lie about where she got this “information”. It was all handpicked by Kyle researching back episodes, to give fodder to her new flying monkey to use against the two Kyle is going after while she sits back, watches the shit show and smuggly pretends to have nothing to do with the outrageous crap spewing from this newbies loud mouth. After honing in and finding someone as stupid as AnneMarie is, to be manipulated and encouraged to be the dirty worker. Even when Kyle did speak it was always to “jokingly” put down the others. After she made them all sit waiting for her rude butt to show up for dinner while she went thru wardrobe changes and the chefs food sat and got old and wilted. The epitome of showing she just does not give one iota of care about other peoples time. Crystal was not at Annemaries mercy.. Annemarie was completely useless as a medically trained person when it came time to actually be of help with Crystals sudden sweating , nausea and hand and vein swelling. She stood there getting too close and that was it. If I were Crystal I would have told her to back the fuck away from me. I also was very nervous about Crystal leaning over by the side of the road with that cliff mere feet away. She could have passed out, stumbled and went right over that cliff. Where was AMs medical expertise in those moments? She got real quiet for the first time in her life. Maybe she was hoping Crystal went over that edge. I have traveled those thin winding roads set on the edge of cliffs in Spain and many other parts of Europe and they are hair raising, edge of your seat, nerve wracking roads to travel. What a nasty thing for Kyle to say about her friend who no one knew what was going on with this sudden illness. That now she is at the mercy of AnneMarie. She is the one who needs lessons in compassion along with Erica .. and now AnneMarie. Maybe their money can buy some of that stuff. Kyles fingerprints are ALL OVER the dinner conversation and words coming out of this new losers mouth. Anyone who would willingly do this for Kyle is a big loser. A stupid one. She was probably coached with these clips from the past sitting with Kyle going over old episodes and taking Kyles advice that using this as her weaponized dinner table conversation, would be a great way to get a “storyline” going for her newbie ass. Since shes trying to help her out and all, she is the expert on reality tv shows and how to make a name for yourself, and AM eagerly believed her, and stupidly carried through with the “plan”. Don’t mistake my kindness for weakness? Huh? What the hell context is she even talking about? Does she even know what that sentence means? It had absolutely nothing to do with anything going on at that table. It was such an off the wall, out of left field statement and downright cringeable in awkwardness in that situation. Plus telling people you are kind when completely being the opposite is just as cringeworthy as that stupid, out of place statement was to begin with. She really thinks she can fool them, and us. Kyle who took this new dupe under her wing, promised it would. I would feel sorry for her being the latest tool for Kyle, except for her willingness to be the crap person she is being to the others, for a name and a storyline for herself. God I hate the stupid word “storyline”. How about using the beautiful Spanish countryside, food and each others light hearted and fun company as a “storyline” for once. Normal regular human people would find that quite enjoyable to watch and would tune in just for that. I guarantee! AnneMarie better hope she does not live in a glass house when the other ladies are given an opportunity to get a word in edgewise. You know, the one that she and her alleged rapist husband share.

It was a trick! A lure! By Getting rid of Rinna, lost viewers returned to give Bravo another chance. That has to be why views are high this season. We thought we’d be able to watch without having to deal with complete insanity watching that crapfest, and then when it looked like the coast was basically clear, they go and plop THIS elephant in the room. What is WRONG with these people? Do they interview to search for the most obnoxious person they could possibly find to give a perfectly good open spot to? I absolutely think this is so. All they did, was reinforce their low brow tendency to impose a foul display with this Kyle and producer convoluted trash, and again, pass it off as entertainment. For you and me.

Oh Dear, Book junkie… Please accept my belated hugs and sympathy to you for your very sad and traumatic loss. You wrote this on the 18th and here it is the 24th and I am seeing it for the first time. I did not see a Bolded heading of this thread notifiying that there was a new post, maybe because of all the upgrading, and other things the forum has been experiencing lately. Just know that our heartfelt sympathy and condolences are with you and that Goofygirl and myself are not happy that you too, are a member of the club nobody wants to be a member of.

AKKKK!!! Please! No! A Million times NO! 🤯😱🤢🤮 I’m begging ya!

Oh I know… deep down I know it is not the women who take each other on these fantastic getaways and that it is at the shows expense. Knowing Sutton tho, she will bring a special gift for all the woman to be given when they arrive there. Do you think that those gift bags are also from the shows expense account? My naive heart thinks that the person chosen to claim is funding the trip, really does spring for these gifts for the others. I do wonder if Sutton, adds a little extra padding to the bottom line of the amount the network is willing to shell out, in order to get an upgrade to “ULTRA deluxe” dinner service instead of only the plain old deluxe service that is included in their travel package. I can see Suttons generosity doing something like that, since they are all there, and may never be there again. Doing it up right, while the doing is available. I do wonder about that. Last year it was Kyle and her cowboy hats for all, in Aspen. She was so furious at Dorit for not being there during hat giving time. Last years aspen trip was a cheapy for Bravo, using Kyles condo, especially for poor Kathy stuck in the bunkie, lower level extra storage room. I do wonder if any of the $$ Bravo must have paid Kyle for the condo use, went from Kyles personal pocket, for the hats she insisted everyone must receive, adore and wear. Whether they felt cowgirly or not. Yes that was a pretty obvious slur towards Crystal, since 24 is no wheres near a child brides age. Inferring that Rob bought and paid for his young asian bride like a he picked her from a mail order catalog of young hopefuls willing to marry into American citizenship. Or even worse… that Rob is a lecherous and depraved pedo minded man whom Crystal fell victim to. Dorit is really showing her true colors this season and was better off when Rinna’s presence took over all the camera time with her constant throwing herself in front of it, hogging all the scenes. Now that the others get a chance to open their own mouths and speak for once, Dorits inner workings are on display every time she gets a chance to interject. And its not pretty.

I’d agree fully with that, except for the fact that Denise was quietly sitting minding her own business, when it was Dorit who started it all up again, throwing her under the bus to take the heat of the moment off of herself. I just wish Denise didn’t take that obvious bait. She could have waved Dorito off and told her to keep her baiting to herself and mind her own business. Denise probably did not get the closure she wanted from the night where she wore her coat upside down because she was too inebriated to remember that Erica gave her an apology that night…. And thats on her.

A tiny little baby Crystal!! So cute! Amazing how you can clearly see Crystal in that adorable infants face. Such a natural beauty.

Oh boy. Another getaway on Suttons dime. I wouldn’t want to be treating the Esophaguy girl to a Barcelona vacation if I were Sutton. If I was AM I would be too embarrassed to accept such a generous gift from some unknown person I just met and came out of the starting gate and literally went for their throat right off the bat. I wonder who is going to take advantage of Suttons generosity when the dinner menus come out. Maybe Kyle again with Dom Perignon butter sautéed, gold leaf encrusted Lobster tails smothered in fresh truffles and beluga caviar, as a starting appetizer.

Vivi is absolutely adorably beautiful. Also very slim and looks like it comes easily for her to stay that way. Maybe thats why Crystal doesn’t want to be having her around in her circle of people.

Yes Kyle seems to be extra self conscious about her look/lips lately, more so than regular. I noticed she is having a bit of a quandary about what she should be doing with that mouth/lips of hers while the camera is aimed at her. She seems to be thinking should I purse my lips this way,, or that way, or this new way I have been practicing….maybe the lower lip/jaw would look best if I jutted it out just a bit further than its natural angle and I will achieve the look I want like this. Or maybe,,, while sitting at Suttons with my green ostrich skin Birken bag on perfect display I shall apply lip gloss and practice which lip pose would look best in this scene. Maybe the slightly parted open lips would look best while I sit here pretending to listen to what you are saying …etc etc. Just watching her trying to figure out how to hold her lips at any one moment is a whole nother show in itself!

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For hoodooznoodooz: Here is a page, an interesting one, I found years ago about abnormal personalities. I remembered there was one particular type who always seemed to have things around them fall apart while they calmly walked away from the hoopla. This personality type is called “The Church Mouse”. Here is the intro to that type: “There was once a sweet young thing who projected the image of the innocent and struggling, quiet, brilliant and pleasant person. However, in reality, she was an "eye of a storm" everywhere she went. Things continuously happened around her that were often nightmarishly terrible. Yet she always seemed to be warm, insightful and integritous, with absolutely no connection to what was happening around her.” Yep! Sounds like A Kyle type to me! It’s pretty long and detailed and it includes how they got to be that way, and the types of people (Mother Kathy) who create the personality in a child in their charge. Kyle certainly does sound like. Church Mouse type. Many other types there too. The world is filled with a lot of broken people. Abnormal Personality Types, Parenting and Other Issues http://dbs2000ad.com/narayan/index.php

She not only said that in the preview, but another quick clip of her saying “Don’t mistake my kindness for weakness”. HaHaHaHa! Crystal shoots back- “When have you been kind?” I am wondering the same thing. She really doesn’t know how to use words correctly. She just throws out anything that pops into her head which she seems to think is oh so witty and will clear her of her complete wrongness. I did like the way she called Sutton and apologized outright and smoothed the future vacation road, hopefully for a fresh start. Then again, that may have only happened because Kyle encouraged her to… because she didn’t want her own vacation in Spain with these ladies to be a bummer. I would HATE to be taking a trip to Spain with this .85 Rinna substitute Andy thought would be cute to slip in on the viewers. She gave me a Rinna headache with her shouting loud mouth. Can you imagine trying to enjoy beautiful Spain with this one in the group? I would be absolutely dreading sharing a trip with her. Andy is making them work hard for their $$ this season! Sutton is right when saying (off phone) that AnneMaries part in it, WAS the whole part, and no one elses. No blame to put on anyone else but herself.. and Kyle of course who planted the seed that Kyle is now pretending she had no “part” in. Annemarie is loud, obnoxious, and frantic with her defensiveness. She turns up the blather and voice volume while she butts in and becomes aggressively rude while overtalking people in this ridiculous esophagus topic. Like she is some renowned serious Professional Expert in the medical world. Loudly pronouncing it at those who dare’st question her superiority in medical knowledge as she lords above all the stupid, medically ignorant know-nothings, standing before her. Forcefully demanding they acknowledge her Superior God-like All Knowing unquestionable correctness. She has a name tag and lanyard at home, proving her bought and paid for, school certified, never-wrong knowledge. Don’t you know this?? Even the toothy homeless within earshot of this spectacle know she is wrong. She is horrible and Cheers to Crystal for calling it like it is. She IS a bitch.

Oh boy, I sure hope the women stop taking that Ozempic. Before it’s too late to prevent long term damage. Diarrhea forever? Puking till your teeth fall out? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12952757/Ozempic-Novo-Nordisk-lawsuits-gastroparesis-stomach-paralysis.html

Please everyone! Do not let my serious tone I posted earlier stop the snark-a-thons progress! Hey… what about that Dorit jumping up at the speed of light to ensure no one else does before her and possibly miss out on the chance to display the scissors technique Kyle wanted to show the others. That was SO NOT Dorit’s style! It was so far from the personality Dorit has always presented that it was an obvious act of desperation to get back into Kyles good graces and friendship. Dorit seems to really be lost and floundering and is someone I am worried about actually. Since she appears to have no other close friendships and has identified as Kyles bestie for years. It looks like it is Dorits world that is crumbling around her, also. Not much strength can be built upon a foundation of brand labels, pretense, and shallow interests. Kyles world is getting real and Dorit doesn’t know anything about being real. At least from what I have seen.

Oh Boo Boo… you are so kind and your words, I only hope I can live up to,, and actually be what you have described me as. I certainly do not feel that, is me. Heehee. Someday hopefully I will be able to really feel that this is so. Thank you so much.

Thank you Boo Boo. Very much 💜

Thank you very much Hoodooznoodooz. I appreciate your words ♥️

Goofy girl, incase you did not understand what I meant because I find it very hard to use the word suicide or “committing” it.. yes thats what I meant when I was referring to my 26 yr old son in 2015. It completely shatters the closest people left behind. In a way, kills them too. Dead men, but still standing. I have heard it referred to as being like a suicide bomber, because it affects those closest to them in varying concentric circles according to how close the relationship is with that person who decided to leave. That is so very true. It completely takes out the closest people next to them,,, the family, parents, spouses, siblings, offspring are left completely shattered. In the next concentric circle …the closest friends of that person (this is where Kyles position is with her friend), it devastates them. They are very deeply wounded. Then the close acquaintances are left with the pain and shock of the shock waves, and so on and so fourth down the line according to closeness of relationship to that person. It is so very true and Kyle, being her very close friend from childhood, I am sure was completely devastated by this. She now finds herself having to deal with being emotionally devastated and trying to figure out how to get back to feeling how she used to be, before this happened, and being the happy person she once was… again. For those closest, in the first concentric circle, the family, (such as yourself being the wife) who were literally taken out with them, but are still alive, have to continue on living, now with the deep wounds they left you with. It is a looong rode to healing and integrating the shattered self you now are, into the old you, the regular happy normal person you were before this happened. Trying to become whole again while having to figure out where this new (suffering) you is going to be put, because you certainly cannot put it down somewhere and walk away from it and avoid the shattering emotional pain. Its like you grew another arm, or leg or head you dont know what to do with but cant be amputated. Its there. Forever. No escaping it. You have to now integrate the 2 yous back into one whole you with (hopefully) the old you, the happy one you used to be, as the prominent one. To make that the stronger one of the two sides of the same coin you suddenly now are. Another analogy can be that now you are left with a huge amount of emotional baggage, starting at the size of a steamer trunk that you haul around with you from then on and hopefully whittle down to the size of a suitcase. You carry this heavy suitcase every single day. At night when you go to sleep you put the suitcase down and escape its weight for a while but then in the morning when you wake up it is there and you have to pick it up each day… because it is now a part of you. As time goes on it varies. Somedays that suitcase is very heavy, and some days it can be pretty light. I am hoping your suitcase becomes lighter and lighter each day you wake up to face a new day of hauling it around. So now that my guts are all laid out for all to see, I really hope this helps you Goofy… I am doing ok now. I had to accept there is no escaping the other me, the shattered one I now also am, and accept and integrate the incredible pain into the old me, yet have the old me, the happy one, be the predominant me in order to “carry on”. I can say that not trying to escape that pain and allowing myself to fully feel and accept its inescapable reality, has helped me move on to the point where my daily picking up of that suitcase at the end of my bed that I must lift each new day, it has definitely become a much lighter load. Someday I hope it is just reduced to carry-on luggage sized. And yes.. it is as complicated as it sounds to those reading this, but I write these words for Goofy Girl with complete understanding of her painful journey and hopes that my words, somehow helped you. ♥️♥️♥️😘

I understand Goofy ☹️. My middle 26 yr old son, in 2015. I cant even use that word. Then my eldest son died from a brain aneurism in 2017. Thankfully my third was twins. It certainly changes a person and I hope Kyle stops sweating the small insignificant stuff soon. Reaches that point. I can see she has checked out from Maurice and think it is because he was not her rock when her friend died. She could put up with all those other “things” he was doing in his life, but not that. Her wanting to go live a simpler life closer to nature is something I hope that she does for herself. She says she buys something everyday. Materialism is not what makes a person heal, only makes your surroundings look like you are a hoarder.

Me too! I was thinking …how many others had to google it?