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Wow all you guys have expressed really thoughtful responses to my wondering post about why I actually own Lauren’s products more than Kristen’s and I strongly agree.
Also yes the jay and kristen relationship is a little strange to me. I doubt doubt that they care about each other and love each other, I’m actually coming more around to them but I agree with others that I think kristen still wants an in in Hollywood still(also she did get a new hosting type reality show I think this past week) and I do wonder how Jay would feel about that. I agree I think that was part of the reason the wedding was called off the first time and Kristen has said as much, in this show and she did this odd interview for E a couple years back, I tried searching for it on YouTube but no luck. But what’s interesting she did of let her career take a sort of backseat. She did a few things like her books and she put her name on a few things and did press a few times but I think she wanted to do more. That’s why she always uses the “I gave up my career for you!” She doesn’t want uncommon James to just be an online thing, she still wants to be in Hollywood. It is kind of odd that she said in an interview recently though that la wouldn’t be the place for her to start a second store.
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22 hours ago, funnygirl said:
That... was not the most powerful episode of the series, despite Krista and the media's insistence.
Absolutely a powerful, tough and important subject matter. But as far as execution goes, this at times felt gratuitous and a little after school special-y. There are episodes where the show has done a lot more with less in more nuanced and authentic ways. I'd appreciate if this new era of Grey's Anatomy stopped telling me how I'm supposed to feel.
And, really? Jo's biological half siblings are named Alexandra and Josh?
Perhaps an unpopular opinion. YMMV.
This. It’s a tragic storyline that needs to be told but something about this episode felt off. Maybe because I felt like I was being told on screen to feel something and all I kind of felt was this episode was very hyped up. Or maybe I’m desensitized because I watch many shows that use this real life theme and that has hindered me to fully appreciate this.
It did remind me of the one shondaland show that got this storyline so well and made me cry, private practice. That episode where one of the characters has this happen broke me. This for some reason I couldn’t.
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I don’t know the way the show is writing FP as of late they seem to be trying to make him good now and stuff. Like a changed good doer. He’s gone through like a hundred changes this season though so yeah it’s clnfusinf. Remembering when he was super odd and creepy at the start of this season enough that he was a contender for the g and g game stuff. He and Alice were so secretive about the whole thing.
Also yeah it’s bad that these characters don’t solve thing for everyone and only for themselves and their friends what bothers me most about this show is that we are continually expected to forget about the really terrible things characters do over and over. Like let’s be real Alice by the end of this season will be out of the cult and probably redeemed and Betty will forgive her, and not remember her mother’s terrible choices that she did to betty. But next season Alice will do something equally as awful. It’s so dumb. And it really upsets me.
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Well MA and SU didn’t help With the Falice stuff. The way the promoted it in sm was off putting. I hope they don’t venture back there.
Also I Hope Bughead is safe. I worry all the time. You never know what this show what mighty do them.
Also I think there are a good number of Varchie shippers even if others don’t think so. Instagram would beg to differ.
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1 minute ago, GodsBeloved said:
Kate didn’t have a bridal party or maid of honor. Beth was on the front row and Madison was on the second.
Yes I have watched Kate’s wedding a lot 😂
Oh, I just assumed Madison was MOH because she took charge of all rtfs activities.
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25 minutes ago, Misslindsey said:
I just fell down the rabbit hole reading the Yelp reviews for Uncommon James. Besides the shipping issues, one of the biggest complaints seems to be cheap jewelry.
I was reading a few of them too. They also hilariously called the whole thing a passion project for a reality star and not worth the money. I mean.. I don’t know. I can’t say I haven’t bought things that are a reality star brand, I have many items from Lauren Conrad’s line. But I don’t know.. hers feels different from whatever uncommon James is to Kristen. I’m not sure how to explain it.
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4 hours ago, CarpeFelis said:
I didn’t get that either. I’ve never had the impression that Beth and Kate were particularly close or that Beth even liked Kate very much, and yet the wedding scenes made it look like they were BFFs. Since when? I get that Beth and Zoe don’t always get along, but it seems way more likely she’d have had Zoe as MOH. I can’t recall whether Zoe was present, so maybe the writers handwaved that away as her being off traveling?
Yeah it is odd Kate was maid of honor considering the episode when Randall and Beth were in a fight at Kate’s bachelottee party and Kate yelled at Beth and Beth got all upset and ran off to her hotel room. They had a nice heart to heart but it was implied that they weren’t close at all. They said as much. Kate said she always felt intimidated by Beth. It’s odd she was her maid of honor. In the wedding of course. Beth was a part of Kate’s but she wasn’t maid of honor, Madison was.
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I don’t get the CMM love so I can’t wait for the farm stuff to be over for a lot of other reasons but a big one that they casted him as their leader. Not into it. Sorry, thank you next.
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6 minutes ago, Snookums said:
I mean, you really can't blame the Farm for moving in on Riverdale, whose motto is apparently "Nothing But Low-Hanging Fruit."
Also I’m suspecting we will find out later on more adults are actually part of the cult. Like it would explain why Tom isn’t all up in arms about Kevin being a part of it, he’s in it too! 😉
But I’m not sure what the end point is for the farm storyline. I’m sure it will Involve a redemption of Alice of some kind but really? Into what? She’s never been decent so I guess were going to get Alice after cult which will probably Alice season one and yeah she was real great then.
Also.. at some point we have to connect these stories in some way, don’t we? There’s a whole lot of plots that haven’t meshed at all this season.
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7 minutes ago, Snookums said:
He's also got a new wife and stepdaughter who apparently don't need any attention either!
And yeah, why the hell is Gladys so into both crime and being vindictive against Jug? Is it because he chose to stay with his then actively drinking/abusive dad rather than go set up her Fagin-in-Cleveland outfit with her and Jellybean? If all she cared about was money she could easily have franchised Fizzle Rocks or JIngle Jangle into a much bigger area where she was, so she's got some kind of revenge against Riverdale thing going.
Um he didn’t choose, she left him with FP and then refused to let him come live with her. She’s a great mother. I hate that the show doesn’t really acknowledge this information. It’s part Gladys fault Jughead is even in the serpents. Granted if he were with her he’s probably be running drugs as well but no it was never his choice, if she is mad he would chose FPS side that is on her for abandoning him. Again when you think about the Gladys it doesn’t make sense. She really does seem to actively hate her son, for reasons that don’t make any sort of sense because it’s of her own doing.
And yeah I have no idea why Tom isn’t at all concerned about Kevin, I think we’re supposed to like that he’s helping Archie our with the gym and yeah that’s all great and stuff but then you’re reminded that Kevin is off giving tours of Scientology Lites headquarters and you kind of are like “why isn’t Tom all up in this?”
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4 hours ago, HunterHunted said:
Hallway fights! Not just for Netflix.
Jughead has to spill the beans. FP can take it. There's no way that he'll be more devastated by this than the any number of times Jughead's life was in jeopardy including when Jughead was nearly beaten to death. I mean really?
Are all of Archie's juvenile detention pals supposed to be over 18? If not, they should be in school. They actually make way more sense as FP's junior deputies because they only have an existing loyalty to Archie.
The Farm is somehow manipulating everyone into believing that they can see a lost loved one? Ok.
Yeah the Gladys thing is making less and less sense right now when I keep thinking about it. As I said in an earlier post, Jughead telling FP really couldn’t destroy him that much. Gladys and J.B. have only been back a couple weeks at this point. I.. don’t understand? Unless they are trying to have it be a situation where Jughead thinks FP Wouldn’t believe him if he told him the truth about Gladys. Which is an annoyance I felt where I was scared that this is was maybe how they were going to have betty tell Jughead about the drugs and luckily they didn’t, so why would they go through that with FP and Jughead? Again as I said the stakes are aren’t that big right now and it makes the story boring. It’s just a lot of people not talking to each other.. which is sort of the theme for the season when you think about it so maybe it makes more sense. I mean let’s hope FP knows already and he’s just playing the waiting game for a reason we don’t know yet.
And yes I didn’t mention it’s nice that atom is helping out Archie in his gym, like that’s great and all, but maybe Tom shouldn’t be doing that and he should be checking on his actual son who has joined a cult and is giving open house tours for said cult and walking across fire and eating drug infused brownies. I’m just saying it’s greatbhes there for Archie but he he has a son who I guess he hasn’t checked in on in a while.
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6 minutes ago, Snookums said:
I hope not: in reading about Victorian seances and Theosophic societies, they really pulled off some doozies with convincing people that they were talking to loved ones. Not just "there's somebody in the room who's missing someone" but super specific information they had to do a lot of work to get. Combine the same tactics, which the Farm is clearly using, with modern day tech and makeup skills and it's probably easier than expected to do the whole "here's your dead loved one who's not dead!" switch.
Edgar clearly is gunning for Scientology levels of power, and I think Betty senses that. when she sat with him saying she wanted to "know everything," it was to lure him, as he's lured so many. And since he, like Betty, thinks he's "too smart" to fall for manipulation, she might just be able to defeat him in the end. Guys like Edgar are textbook narcissists: they have a pathological need for attention and admiration, but obtaining it through trickery from their marks isn't too much of a hit after a while. Having this Teen Girl Detective seemingly in his thrall is probably very, very tempting. (Also love how Evelyn is so nervous around him, so terrified to screw up.)
Well this one showed how very hard it can be to escape a system that's got a LOT invested in you staying right where you are. From Archie's Fight Club to Jughead and Gladys to the endless Farm machinations to Veronica's desperate attempts to keep her world from crumbling, some power systems seem impossible to shut down, while others simply peter out.
Things I liked amid the craziness:
Ex Sheriff Keller overseeing Archie's gym, so at least one responsible (ish) adult is around to make sure it isn't instantly turned into some kind of ridiculous out of JD version of the fight club that was happening in Juvie. However, you'd think he'd be interested in Elio sliming around. He knows damn well the guy's a Mob fixer. Also, does he even remember he's got a wife, stepdaughter, and SON?
Archie asking for Veronica's help and her agreeing with not one drop of angsty drama. These two don't hate each other, at all, and it was great to see two people still liking and respecting each other even if they're not dating.
Cheryl, until her brainwash, was her magnificent self and I hope she snaps out of this crap soon (where the hell is Toni? Does she know about any of this?) I like this character best when she's all This is Cheryl's World and I deign to let you live in it.
Betty and Jughead continue to support each other's terrible agendas in the cutest way possible. (IS Betty staying there? Or with Vee? Or where?)
I really think Jughead needs to pull the pin on the whole thing with his dad, if only to get the inevitable scene where FP takes him aside and goes " I KNOW your mom's the dealer, Jug; I lived with that woman for years. You think she's fooling me? Now QUIT with your independent study project before you blow this whole thing!" But man, Gladys sending her son into a shooting gallery, knowing the chances were high he could get killed, was ice cold even for this town. Although Jughead is apparently immortal and can both fall through glass windows from great heights and have 170 pound teenage boys dropped on him from stairwells to no ill effect, so maybe Archie's rubbing off on him.
Did Archie catch Kurtz there after he ran off, or what?
The last scene with poor Baby Teeth was suitably creepy. If Edgar is behind the G&G gargoyle king setup I'd sure like to know what his endgame is.
Thanks for the info on cults and farms and stuff. Also yes the show is really playing this as a Scientology thing but clearly trying to avoid that actual group by name so much.
I’m assuming Archie didn’t catch up with Kurtz as we would have gotten a scene about it, right?
I hope betty is playing Edgar but the promos don’t look too promising. I can keep going back and forth on what they are going to do with her. I’m really nervous about it all.
I hope fP knows what’s up with Gladys. Only because I don’t find her all that interesting. I don’t find this story at all interesting. I feel like there’s supposed to be some stakes here that Jughead really feels like he’d been breaking up something really special if he told his dad, but his mom has been back for how long? A month at most, right? If even that. It’s not like they’ve been a happy family for a few years now. Hell like three months before Gladys reappeared FP was hooking up with Alice here and there. It’s kind of a ridiculous story to me. I also feel like we’re supposed to believe FP would refuse Jughead telling him the truth about Gladys.. which again really show? I don’t know. It’s just dumb and it’s making me hate the storyline. It’s not all that interesting.
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45 minutes ago, tennisgurl said:
Veronica desperately trying to keep her parents together was probably the most teenage plot this show has had in ages. I actually do feel bad for her, even if her parents splitting up really is probably for the best. I mean, Hermione tried to kill her husband twice now. Even by Riverdale standards, that takes work to come back from. Its not impossible, but they've got stuff to do.
God everyone is jumping on the farm bandwagon now, huh? The Coopers, Kevin, and now Cheryl? I had no idea that the powers of Chad Michael Murray went so far! Of course, there are literally 70000 cults in this town at this point, so I whats one more I guess?
The little Veronica and Betty scene was nice, its been forever since they got a nice moment it feels like. And it was cool seeing some of Archie's prison friends, and that they got out of jail. I mean, really guys? Shipping a bunch of minors to an adult for profit jail so they can take part in your underage illegal fight club? I would say its over the top levels of villainy, but...
Archie and Jughead teaming up to fight the drug dealers was fun, even if the Serpents being some kind of police force is still just so ridiculous it makes my brain hurt. I guess its better than them just sitting around doing nothing I guess, when Jughead decided that this criminal gang should give up actual crime or whatever.
I missed Josie and Archie/Josie. Go figure.
Only two Coopers have joined, Betty has not. And I don’t tjbk she will. At least not with her consent, jury’s our on without her consent.
Also Veronica and Betty has a nice moment when Veroncia told betty about Gladys and the moment in the miscall when veronica announced her parents divorce Betty hugged her.
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I loved the beronica friendship moment. More of that but otherwise this episode just makes me worried for Betty.
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Okay.. honestly I only have a few thoughts on this episode so here we go.
Adorable adorable Bughead scene in the opener. Adorable. Glad they are still together by this episodes end. Seriously, constantly feel the need to be thankful for that! I’m always awaiting a breakup for stupid reasons but I’m hoping wishing that they end this season as a couple.
clearly the farm is giving the joiners or potential joiners drugs to make them see dead people right? Because this show isn’t supernatural and if turns out to become like that.. I think I’m out.
Now that Bettys ending is meeting with Edgar, I’m really even more worried about her safety. I want to believe knowing what I know about the character that she wouldn’t join the cult but I’m unsure because it’s this show. And two I’m worried that she fake joins to get information and then something happens and they push her without her consent into cult rituals.
Also can we stop acting like Betty has a real reason to stop the cult now? The more they have characters join the more I’m kind of like “whatever”, or maybe that’s just me I know people here like Alice and Kevin and Cheryl but I’m completely over them in the series now and it’s hard for me to be upset they joined a cult. I’m upset for Betty because no matter what I totally see the season finale of her being locked in the cults headquarters and her being tortured. I mean considering the hq is now what the sisters once was, I fully expect the show to recreate the same scene when nuns were forcing fizzle rocks down bettys throat, only this time it’ll be her mother and sister and her best friend and her cousin. Good times.
I liked seeing Archie and Jughead team up against the the drug teens but again sadly like Betty and the cult, Jughead isn’t going to win against Gladys. Also.. I honestly wish he wasn’t to scared of her empty threats and would just tell FP. I think FP would definitely believe him, unless the show changes his character again. How many changes has he gone through this season?
I do have to say though as someone who watches the YouTube channel cinema sins, when Jughead fell out of the window with Kurtz, I thought of “They survive that” Which that channel does whenever a character does something that would cause death and survives... because really? Also love that fh seemed to have a broken bone or two but the next day Jughead was fine when confronting Gladys.
I don’t care about Veroncia and her family? I know a lot of people here aren’t into Varchie. I’m meh on them as I say but I definitely realized during her scenes with Archie I prefer them to hers and Reggie. I don’t see the big hot Veggie chemistry. I just don’t ever. When they are on screen I see the show forcing something. I didn’t understand her family scenes at all. The only thing I liked was her acknowledging that. It was boring though because more than likely by next episode she’ll be over it.
I’m really worried about bettys safety. I have to say that and the show is making me wait two weeks which is annoying, how am I supposed to survive my birthday if there isn’t a new Riverdale?
Also this was meant to be short but it ended up not being one. I’ll probably have more thoughts later.
But again I’m worried about bettys safety.
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56 minutes ago, smores said:
I feel like Tom likely is someone who pokes and pushes buttons in a low key way that most people don't realize or see, while Katie is someone who is just upfront with what is bothering her. I'm that sort of person, if I have a problem I will either ignore it or I will come out with it and say this is the deal and it needs to be resolved. I have a sibling, though, who is a master at screwing with people and just poking away. When we were kids, it was little stuff, like when adults weren't looking, kicking or pinching and then when you'd go to hit back, they'd scream and say you hit them out of nowhere, even though you'd ignored the first 12 times they pinched you because you knew how this was going to go. We're now adults and they still try to pull crap, not physical, but will say shit to needle you and then play the victim. The choice is to ignore them, which amps the antics up or to just not have any involvement at all, which is what I do.
I don't think Schwartz is like this all the time, but I think when he's arguing with Katie, he definitely gets his digs in. He knows the buttons to push and he goes for them. He knows that Katie will say something and he knows he'll come out looking like the long suffering good guy, because it's easy for him to provoke her into a complete rage and then he's such a good boyfriend/husband for putting up with her being such a bitch.
I'm not a big drinker but a while back I went on vacation and had unlimited alcohol, so I tried a bunch of different drinks. And I drank more than normal (and by normal I mean like a drink once a month or so, I generally only drink when I'm out to eat or on vacation), drink with lunch, drinks in the afternoon, meet up with the friends we were traveling with for drinks before dinner, cocktail before dinner, drink after dinner. Not drunk, just a nice buzz the whole time. Two days into the trip I started waking up at night coughing and couldn't figure out why, I thought I'd gotten sick, I thought I must be allergic to something in the room, etc. It kept getting worse. Nope, it was reflux from suddenly increasing my alcohol consumption a ton. I still have issues with it years later, if I'm not careful with what I eat (or drink!), and I can't believe Brittany couldn't cut out alcohol for 2 weeks to see if it helped!
They usually do a pretty big lift when you get a reduction, so it's not crazy to think it looks like she got a boob job. You can go from having bigger, saggy boobs to smaller but perkier ones. I miss Dr 90210.
Ah yes on the Tom stuff, I completely agree. I think Katie maybe has been trying to ignore it and it’s been bottled up for some time now. As she said Tom has been all about Tom Tom for a while now and she has let it go. And yeah the seat change is a little thing but she wanted to spend some time with her on the plane and yes this is a little thing but it’s the last little thing that just sent her over the edge. Not to mention that Toms easy insult excuse to her is the drinking thing. That’s rude and uncalled for. And again proves my point that Scwartz can’t deal with any confrontation and that’s why I think it seems like katie is just a bitch but a lot of the time I think she’s holding stuff in because she knows she can’t talk to her husband because he can’t have a conversation and he always gets to be the nice innocent one. And again it’s also because the people in their friend group allow this to go down.
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Also can I just say when Randall claimed he would not say something awful and horrible about Beth’s new career path(re like Jack did with Rebecca and the fight he witnessed) didn’t he in that voicemail?
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I mean Beth is Rebecca. Randall is Jack. If anything this episode proved that. The show is so Pro Jack even his mistakes Saint him and that was becoming very bothersome and to me they are doing the same with Beth.
I remember writing in these forums the night of the season 1 finale and reading that quite a few people were saying Rebecca was the worst ever for choosing to tour with that group over her family.
I kind of wish Rebecca and Beth had more scenes together to explain this situation better to each other.
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Wow. I’m glad they acknowledged Randall and Beth’s comparisons to Jack and Rebecca but a lot of awful things were said in that fight. Both threw down some guantlets and hard truths that they might not be able to come back from.
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Well honestly I’m not on either katie or Toms side, my whole take is that Tom gets to walk away and be the wounded bird.. because everyone let’s him! And yes katie is rude and insufferable but damn.. I wouldn’t want to be in any type of a relationship with Scwartz. It really is like trying to be an adult around someone who acts like a child constantly and again I have to say it’s because everyone let’s him! He’s always the victim. According to his boyfriend he is.
I don’t know how I feel about Lala and her antics because again I can’t be in anyone’s side. I don’t think Raquel is a sweet little angel as she is shown on the show(even though others disagree, this is my feeling) and James sucks and so does Billie and I don’t know if I dislike Lala. I just find her kind of meh for the most part.
Brittany is acting like an idiot about the drinking, far it for me to agree with Jax whenever I do I have to check my self but he made all kinds of sense about her situation. Not understanding why she was drinking when she shouldn’t be and also concluding that these things she’s doing now could possibly have bad heath repercussions in the future. He’s not wrong. Also when she was like “we need wild flowers!” “Wild flowers, like I can pick some outside?.. those look dead!” That was kind of funny. I’m sorry but he’s been kind of funny about this whole engagement thing. He’s funnier then when Tom and Katie we’re engaged and Tom justbgrumbled the whole time. Jax is kind of making jokes.
I like beau and Stassi enough but their little bit was kind of grating. And I’m a Stassi fan. But even I can’t with that.
I can’t tell if Kristen was being serious about the whole “Lisa letting me come to Tom Tom means we are almost besties!” Or if she was trying to be funny? I mean it’s probably the former which makes me sad and also makes me my roll my eyes at why Lisa hates her still. At some point it’s tired.
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9 minutes ago, MollyWebber said:
Well Kevin made the endgame comment about Betty and Archie in the pilot because the pilot was written with the intention of setting up the triangle. They didn't begin filming the rest of the season until after the show was picked up which was 5 to 6 mos later. By then they had changed direction to set up Bughead because rumor has it Cole and Lili were already hooking up and had some off the charts chemistry on set. By the time the first season was over Bughead had taken over the world. Lol.
Long story short Kevin's endgame comment about Barchie in the pilot doesn't mean anything in the here and now. Not saying it will never happen but it's not written in blood because of what Kevin said. Betty and Jughead may not have referred to each other as endgame which thank jesus but they sure have said and done enough to put such a stupid term to shame. This last episode alone but you can also include the beanie moment, Betty being what he thought was his last phone call, committing crimes for each other, sleuthing kink, come on!
Teah I guess I’m wrong about the end game moment in the pilot, but I’ve mentioned all of Bughead having little moments,, That’s what I mean. I like those moments more than the use of the word end game so that’s what I was implying. I said the show either has to know what it’s doing or we, certain viewers are putting more thought into it. But in my post i stayed the show has definitely put Bughead moments to mean they are an end ship. Unless they aren’t thinking that and just putting them in to show what they are now. This is why it’s really hard to imagine shipping either character with anyone else right now.
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10 minutes ago, Callaphera said:
Because she's the one that has an issue with her husband but doesn't communicate with him like an adult and instead rage-texts him like a wangsty sixteen year old and then freezes him out when they land - in front of the entire group so everyone knows - and then yells with him on their hotel balcony for everyone to hear? Sure, Tom could really benefit from learning some de-escalation techniques if those two are going to make their marriage last but she was the one with the issue, not Tom.
But Tom also has a ability to not be able to handle confrontation at all. I said both of them are at fault, but scwartz always gets off easy when it comes to them and that’s what I was pointing out. Katie isn’t innocent but Tom isn’t either.
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Eh like someone else said I think it’s more than the flight. And it also like someone else said explains shun fi went off on Katie. She’s always the problem. Scwartz never does anything. He’s just a sweet puppy. Like I said scwartz is awful actually. It takes two people to work on a relationship and most of the time scwartz isn’t, he’s off either making out with randoms or hanging out with the person he wants to be married to FI. Yeah he’s a real winner. I know katie isn’t the greatest but why is it her fault? Because she gets to a point wheee it bothers her so much and she can’t help but blow up? That’s not fair to our it all on her.
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3 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said:
And what exactly has Tom been doing with TomTom for four months that led to Katie feeling ignored? I don't think anything that actually had anything substantial to do with the bar. I suspect he was using it as an excuse to fart around with Tom all the time.
Katie seems to have been trying to keep the trouble off camera and set a mental deadline of the bar opening for things to get better and Tom kept ignoring her.
Also retroactively explains why Sandoval went off on Katie last week. He always reacts to issues between Schwartz and Katie by blowing up at Katie about how horrible she is.
Well you know Scwartz is a battered wife
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Well I think we are kind of right about why Jay called off the wedding the first time, he did want kristen to be a stay at home type of wife. And she didn’t want to. Right after the wedding was called off she was a contestant on Dwts.
Also thanksfor finding your original post about the special @Tatum that special was a odd thing. It was so random because I don’t even think Kristen was doing e carpet stuff around that time and they randomly were doing a special on her? And yeah I remember her not wanting to do a reality show too.
Again im not sure what her end game is with this show. I still laugh when she talked about not wanting the kids on until they express they want to.. it’s like her kids are babies still. Does she think this show is going to be on for a while?