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1 minute ago, BW Manilowe said:
Of course none of us knows what the “creatives” behind the show, & the CW network want to do about Luke’s passing in regards to his character’s status on Riverdale—& I’m pretty sure they don’t know either; especially given the death was only announced in the last hour & a few more minutes past that, so they’ve barely had time to process it. But it’s theoretically entirely possible they could recast Fred, if they feel they need to do that for the storyline, even though the show’s already been on for 3 seasons. Bewitched, for example, was on for 8 seasons & switched the actors who played Darrin between seasons 5 & 6. Other shows have also recast characters when they’ve been on for longer & shorter than 3 & 8 seasons.
Yeah, I gusss. I just don’t see them doing that. I could be wrong though. Anyway the cw network released this statement:
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20 minutes ago, BW Manilowe said:
I don’t watch it, but I wonder what will happen now to his character on Riverdale? He played Fred; as I remember from my Archie comics-reading days, that’s Archie’s dad. I wonder if they’ll recast or kill him/otherwise write him off?
As someone who watches I don’t think they can recast the character. It’s been on for three seasons already.
Im really sad about this. It really makes me sad. And I got nervous when we hadn’t heard anything for a few days about his condition, but I’m still shocked by this outcome.
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I do have to say it was interesting that Kristen did fire Shannon and that the show allowed that. Shannon at least brings some sort of conflict(maybe another cast member will, but Kristen doesn’t get any from Regan and Brittany for the most part) and I would think the show would want to keep her around. Although a bunch of the footage they showed last night of Shannon disrespecting Kristen, a lot of it was not on last season and I found that funny.
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8 minutes ago, EarlGreyTea said:
Did anyone catch the season two premiere? Updates:
- Kelly continues to GRAAAATE for no discernible reason. I feel bad because I'm sure she's very nice and she has great hair, but she bugs me.
- Shannon left UJ to form her own company and/or social media brand, which is stupid if she's no longer going to be on the show. The exposure is undoubtedly what gave her the power to leave, but once she's no longer on TV who the hell will care about her? I would have thought E! would double her pay, to get her to stay, since she did bring most of the drama to an otherwise uninteresting show. I'll be salty if they're still paying her to appear and she's not in the workplace.
- Wirth left UJ to form a gym with Tim McGraw that is literally next door to UJ. Good, so we can end the pantomime of him working in retail while being worth millions.
- The most interesting aspect to me is the workplace. I don't give a damn about Kristin's farm or her friends (although her befriending Luke Bryan's wife was amusing).
- Brittainy's bf is still punching about his weight class by being with her. Also he has shorter hair.
Sadly I don’t find the workplace all that interesting. But nothing is on this show to be honest and I find the store stuff boring as well. None for the girls are all that compelling to watch.
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They really did Ruin the Debbie character(although as a small point she really idolized Frank when she was little up until she became a teenager, I remember her helping him as a little irl a lot of the time and when he ended up in Mexico for a little bit in season opener, she was the only kid worried about him).
All the same she was really smart then she got pregnant and ended up really stupid. I remember after having Franny she tried to bring her screaming crying baby into a classroom and was confused and angry when the teacher wouldn’t allow it. Like thats just common sense and I think again the show was trying to be funny. That’s the thing, the show has these moments where it’s trying to be funny but it’s not working. Case in point everyone forgetting about Liam for two days. What? That’s not funny. At all.
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Fiona tells Liam she has to run out so he has to fend for himself for breakfast, Liam isn’t in his room and isn’t anywhere in the house. And Fiona gets concerned. Oh fiona Liam has been mia for two weeks.
Why did fiona act shocked when frank said they were regarding down the apartment building? Didn’t she know this already? When she was starting her spiral didn’t she read a sign saying this was happening?
Also Fiona And Debbie were pretty blasé about not being able to get a hold of Liam honestly. I mean maybe off sceen they have seen him but we haven’t seen him two weeks and a part of me thinks these characters haven’t either. And them just calling and texting. I get they have other things going on by really.. actually no, the only one who didn’t was Debbie and all se was doing was shopping and she could have looked for her little brother.
Also seeing where Liam was, with a nice family. And hearing him say it’s been two days.. that’s better then the two weeks we haven’t seen him. But still. His family sucks. He needs to get the hell away from them, actually. I’m not really sure where this is funny and I think it’s supposed to be.
Did the show remember fiona got arrested once? Because they of did in that meeting with the prohibition officer.
Kevin veronica and the twins are on a different show that’s full of whacky sitcom hijinks. “It’s not 1 little girl.. it’s two!! They’re twins!”
Also Debbie is annoying. They were doing quite good with her at the start of this season- although maybe if she was just all the other stories were super terrible, she was better by comparison.
Frank is annoying too. What was the point of this storyline? To have frank get surgery by an intern? Because ha ha funny.
It was kind of nice for Fiona to see her old coworker at the meeting she went to.
Also Debbie is terrible. I didn’t feel bad for her at all when kelly rejected her and she looked all sad. Whatever.
Seriously. Kevin and Vee and the occupants of The bar are clearly on a different show.
I was happily surprised that Fiona’s old coworker didn’t offer her a job back at the diner and Fiona didn’t ask for one. I feel like if the second option happened we were supposed to going for a feel bad for fiona moment when Fiona made more than a scene at the diner when she was fired.
Oh right, Fiona and Lip actually have a conversation. I’m assuming Lip has heard of Al anon before.. he did rehab so I assume they talked about it.
So Fiona for a job at the pawn shop.
Also debbie crying.. whatever. Are we supposed to feel bad? Also Debbie the reason people aren’t falling in love with you is because you’re forcing people into bad situations. Her first sexual experience, her even getting pregnant. It’s hard to feel bad.
So fiona will leave with all that mlney? That’s her send off?
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11 minutes ago, sweetandsour said:
Ugh, this show. I am not a regular reader or commenter for Riverdale (though I do regularly watch it), so I apologize if I'm just repeating what others have already said. But anyway. I really don't understand what's going on in the writers' room. Do they not understand that they have put together a show that's comprised of individual characters basically being on their own unrelated show? If I didn't know anything about the cast, I would assume that almost everyone hates working with KJ and vice versa, so they've kept him in storylines where he barely interacts with anyone but the same people over and over. And Veronica is moving more and more to that side as well. They took one of the strongest adults with the snappiest lines (Alice) and turned her into ... this??? For the entire season? I agree with everyone else who must have made comments about how nonsense plots are driving everything, including what characters do and who they align with, instead of the characters informing how the plot is executed. At this rate, I feel we are headed towards the caliber of Glee.
Remember the days when the pieces of the show either meshed together pretty well or were legitimately welcome elements of character/relationship development, except for Archie's wannabe music career??? Oh, to go back to the days of only side-eying that ...
I don't even know if there's any mystery anymore to "who is the Gargoyle King?" since they've already had several characters being the King in certain situations. But if there is an ultimate GK other than Edgar, I'm expecting it to be someone totally random like Principal Weatherbee, the Jingle Jangle teacher from Southside High last season who was arrested, or Grandma Blossom, who has only been faking being in a wheelchair this whole time. Or Mary Andrews!
The entire "building a prison as the moneymaker basis of a corrupt empire" subplot was a mistake from minute one on a show like this, so of course they bring it back up again. This is not the kind of thing they can make compelling for the viewing audience, nor does it organically fit into any other characters' storylines - whether they are the teenagers or the adults. (Except maybe FP as the sheriff and anyone else who gets set to prison in the future.)
In closing, I, too, was a member of "23 Hour Fitness," except the one hour they are closed every day is the one hour I wanted to work out, so we had to part ways. The fine print of the contract I had to sign was only part of our incompatibility.
100% this except for the comments on Alice. I’ve always disliked her and never got the love, so I don’t get comments like she’s so awful now when she always has been.
For me it’s not just the nonsense plots or that the teenagers are acting like teens, I’ve watched plenty a teen show where the teens are acting pretty adult even when they show them in high school, oth did this a few times, pretty little liars, even glee, for me it’s that as I’ve even saying lately, I feel like there’s no fun at all in the show anymore. Like this show is trying to be crazy whacky ridiculous fun and while it’s ridiculous, none of it is all that fun. Like there’s little to no joy with the characters, not even one bright spot. That’s what I miss. Even season 2 when this thing was going downhill Into it’s darkness spiral, I could still some joy interjected into it. I don’t see any here. Even with Archie and Josie who clearly have the only chance for it, is fleeting. Veronica is now entrapped in a super not fun drug dealing plot with her parents and Gladys. Jughead is involved with the gang and that’s bever all that fun for him and Betty is off dealing with her sister and mother and a cult that’s probably going to kill her. And when that’s not her story, she’s sharing secret time with her psychopath father because theshow is trying to force fed us that he’s the only person in her life who can understand her. I’m sorry but can these characters have fun again? I guess not.
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Finally watched this tonight. Just a whole bunch of meh. Also Jay saying to Claire he’s going to leave the closet buisness. Didn’t he already? Technically he isn’t the boss anymore and hasn’t been for years. He retired and put Claire in a charge, and then got bored and came back just to be around to help out or something.
Haley thinks she’s going to be a bad mom. Really glad they gave her this storyline so Sarah doesn’t really have to learn any new lines each week.
How are they going to have material for next season when they keep recycling plots?
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1 hour ago, HeatLifer said:
Right? That’s the only thing that explains anyone listening to Jughead. Ha.
As I said I kind of hope sometimes the book theory isn’t true. I worry of this happens Bughead is a dream or what Jughead wishes would have happened and in fact Barchie is actually the end game and that would make me super sad.
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32 minutes ago, AnimeMania said:
My theory is we are all seeing what happens in the book that Jughead is writing, so of course he would make himself the tough leader of a street gang and have a hot girlfriend. Riverdale in the book is an exciting place where anything can happen and when they finally show you the real life Riverdale it will be a quiet small typical American town where nothing ever happens and everybody there is normal and boring.
I go back and forth if I want it to end up being a book because who knows what the show will end up making real and not what happened in the book. I don’t know. I just feel certain things wouldn’t have happened and therefor certain relationships maybe didn’t happen.
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I wouldn’t really be all that scared of Cheryl. Maybe with the bow and arrow but sometimes I think she’s more bark than bite, even the latest episode, others did her dirty work. She stood by and directed what they do. Anyways..
I do agree that now the show is going for shock value and not only in my humble opinion it has ruined the plots of the show and the characters, as I said, it feels like watching characters get tortured each week and then forgetting they got tortured. As I said again, it does kind of feel like characters have forgotten important plot points that were pretty key in the first half of this season just because the plot needs them to. It doesn’t make sense. And I get nothing on this show makes sense but certain things are getting kind of ridiculous.
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Well it’s hard To take any of the teenagers seriously when they are acting all tough and whatever. Archie acting tough makes me laugh and laugh, Jughead as a gang leader, Veronica currently trying to get in the drug mob thing, this season and last, Betty as dark Betty, ugh, cringe worthy even all the other teenager gang members, Cheryl almost anything she does honestly, especially when she’s Katniss Everdeen and why? BecUse they’re teenagers.
The Toni wanting to be queen annoys me because she has never shown any interest in being queen before ever. And bringing it up now because cheryl have her a gang to lead when she clearly doesn’t make much sense. Also the fact that she brought it up and then had to bring Betty into it brings up other things, like is she still a threat to the Bughead relationship because even if that wasn’t the intention, it kind of sounds like it. Or at least it implies it could be. Maybe I’m projecting. It’s just odd. She has never shown herself wanting to be queen before. And this episode kind of paved the way that Choni is headed to a possible breakup.
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15 minutes ago, catrice2 said:
I haven't watched or read the boards in a while. I am watching right now after reading the posts and I still don't know what is going on. I guess I should have read the posts before trying to watch it. I saw one or one and a half episodes early this season and knew it was going to be terrible. It was a great first season...I guess I'll always have that. Still need to go back and see how Archie got out of jail, etc. Has everyone slept with everyone yet? What happened to the Pussycats?
Yeah.. the first season was amazing. And for some reason the show decided to go dark in season 2 and now really dark. Like beyond repair dark for certain storylines. I said something in the spoiler thread about how this season feels like I’m watching all the characters get tortured and traumatized for an hour and half the time no one remembers that they went through some stuff.
I’m not even talking about how they forget events from the last seasons, I’m talking about how they can’t remember things from like three episodes ago. Like Veronica for instance is all about her family and getting them out of bad things like drug dealing.. huh? Didn’t she hate her parents and denounce them constantly through the first half of this season? Also let’s forget about Varchie and all them because now it’s Veggie time! And Betty.. I know there’s other things going on with your mom but holy cow did she just forget her mother sent away to the sisters? I get it’s her mom but she seems to not even remember that happened or when she does, she conventionally never is like “well my mom sent me there”.. it just happened. Guess we won’t be circling back to that ever because Alice is going to move her into the farm complex which also happens to be where Betty was tortured because her mother sent her to an insane asylum but whatever and she’ll probably be drugged again and forced into a cult!!! But whatever. She’s not going to remember this next season anyway.
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Yeah.. I think the PP attacking Fangs and Sweet Pea was supposed to be seen funny? I really do. Because if it had been reversed, wow, that would be totally different but because it’s females attacking names it’s fun and funny. No. No it isn’t. All it does is send the Cheryl character back a whole bunch of steps. I mean I find her annoying in season one but because of this episode and the ones before it, she’s just beyond that right now. Jughead was totally right that the PP and Toni are a vanity project right now for her.
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5 minutes ago, Snookums said:
To be fair, people who have been in cults, and their loved ones, say that they totally changed, and in many cases, lost many personality traits due to being subsumed into this hive mind, so that's not even inaccurate, but it is boring to watch! Crazy Alice used to get on my nerves but not because she was uninteresting, even when her actions didn't really track from one episode to the next. But nowadays all she does is drone on about how she's freeing herself with organic milk and oatmeal cookies with that placid smile and it's BORING.
Which will be about the twelfth of never, since once again the show seems to have forgotten that Alice and FP even know each other, much less have a secret son and fraughtness and drama around the whole thing.
I’m pretty sure Falice is going to come back at some point, now that Gladys is back. Come on, that’s the only thing Gladys will be good for is a show down with Alice. After that she can leave too, because she’s an awful parent too.
Also to me Alice didn’t change? She’s just gotten awful in a different way to her daughter. She’s always treated Betty like crap she just does it differently each season. I’ve never gotten the love for her. I know people also like the actress a lot too, she grates in my nerves as well, mostly because she seems very much like a try hard on social media. At least in regards to the Falice stuff. And the worst part is the show will somehow have Betty forgive her and then next season she will do something even more awful to Betty.
I’m not sure what she can do next, she already was medicating her and watching her weight during season one(yeah I didn’t forget), in season 2 she denounced her boyfriend and basically called betty crazy about the black hood letters saying Betty was acting it out, then chose her faux son over Betty even though Betty was scared, also hilariously ignored bettys speech about self harm that Betty told chic at te breakfast table, also had her cover up a murder,this season she’s gone to a cult, sent Betty to an insane hospital that force fed her drinks but no one mentions it and took bettys money. So next season is she going to actually kill her?
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3 minutes ago, Dobian said:
The whole Jughead as gang leader plot needs to run its course, unless they want to change Jughead. You can't run a sustainable gang without doing gang things like, you know, crime?
Cheryl and Toni suddenly getting their own made-to-order girl gang is just way to convenient and contrived.
I'm done with the whole Farm plot with nutty Alice and those psycho girls. Betty needs to just move in with Jughead.
Archie is now fully on the school of hard knocks character trope.
It seems like every meeting or family dinner with Lodges ends with Hiram telling his daughter how much she owes him.
Get well, Luke!
Yeah.. I was thinking does veronica even have any sort of income? Hiram took away her trust last season( although considering she seems to have forgotten the months of hating her parents and living in pops basement maybe she still has it) and her buisness isn’t ever making money. Or at least it wasn’t.i agree with others her family stuff is boring.
Again I have to mention it’s just like we’re back in last season. The Lodges and their buisness is super boring and not at all interesting. Even if this time it’s drugs, it’s so boring. Also are the serpents still doing security for veronica? Seems like that would be a no. I’m so lost on all of this stuff. It seems like this season will have a ton of deleted scenes because a lot of things need to be explained.
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4 minutes ago, MollyWebber said:
Another takeaway from this episode for me is that if Jughead treated Betty the way Cheryl treats Toni, people would be shouting TOXIC from the rooftops. Also how was it supposed to be funny for the PPs to jump Sweetpea and Fangs? Had they fought back would it still be funny? Cheryl can go fuck herself with the way they're currently writing her. Again, Toni deserves so much better than to be her bitch and puppet.
I said this exact thing earlier about the show implying that because it’s girls against guys it shouldn’t be an issue.
Also people already call Bughead toxic constantly and I never understand.
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10 minutes ago, lorbeer said:
I used to like Alice. She was fun. Kind of crazy but fun or at least she used to say some crazy things that made laugh a lot. Now she's dull. And creepy... I feel for Betty. It seems like her mother doesn't love her anymore. I'm kind of amazed how nobody but Betty is really concerded about her joining a cult. Especially FP! He should notice something bad is happening... I hope she will come to her senses... Apart form that I like the idea of Archie making a career in boxing. What I don't like that he's got yet another 'super' villan against him who's now out there to kill him. I really hope I'm not right and Elio (correct name??) and his mob family are not going to go after him the way Hiram did. And I like Josie and Archie together. Together they're interesting. Before that I couldn't care less for them.
FP likes the cult or he did that one episode because it allowed Alice to embrace herself and start hooking up with him again. He legit said that to her. So he’s all for it. At least he was. I’m sure he will be again when there’s a scene with Falice booking up again.
Also Alice has always been a terrible mother so this isn’t anything new, actually. The only difference the show having her act this way is making it really hard for how the writers are going to try and redeem her so betty can forgive her and feel bad. Sorry she won’t be able to sing her way out of this one like last year.
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4 minutes ago, Wilpen said:
Hopefully next season will be better. I guess we have to hope, lol.
Bughead remaining together, Archie/Josie new dynamic, really are the moments I embrace (even if I want more Bughead). Have to embrace the good since there's so much bad.
Same. I really am here only for the Bughead moments and the only thing I can say about the lack of their screentime is that they’re still together. That’s what worries me if they ever get more screentime, which is probably because of the memories of last season when Bughead has a lot of moments in episodes and ended up broken up by the end of an episode.
I like Josie and Archie but even I’m guessing they aren’t a serious thing so I can’t care too much.
Im curious about what the deal is with Choni. Are they headed to a breakup? Because I’m not a fan of them, or Cheryl or Toni separately at this point, but damn.. RAS gets so much hate when Choni is on sceeen for a minute even if they’re happy or kissing because people claim they barley get any screentime (which even I have to agree is partly true) I can’t imagine the hate he is getting now for their scenes last night.
And I completely agree with your thoughts on Kevin. As I and another poster and you again pointed out, kevin has been a crap friend to Betty. I’m sorry but facts. In fact almost all of the people in bettys life have been pretty awful to her(except for Jughead and he had his moments in season 2 that were side eye worthy) but Archie has always seen past her most of the time, Cheryl has called her names, her sister is nuts and has never been there, Veronica is flighty at best, and well we know what both of her parents are like. But Kevin as her supposed best friend? When? That first scene in the pilot? He dropped her pretty fast when he met veronica Lodge and became her new bestie. And he continues to believe others before Betty. Seriously it is things like this that make me wonder how Betty gets a ton of hate when others get away with so much worse than her. If Kevin left this show I wouldn’t care. He’s the worst friend.
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10 minutes ago, Wilpen said:
Man that was a hot mess.
While I appreciate Bughead is steady and stable, they still aren't getting that much. Then again, I cannot complain because of everything else that is going on = a total nightmare. It could be worse. Still, this one little scene where my Jug even gives Betty some stupid advice (lol) doesn't cut it.
However, as a Bughead shipper I cannot get too critical considering how bad everything else is.
Does this show even remember that Betty and Veronica are friends? Seriously? Does this show even remember that one of the biggest attractions in season 1 was the Betty/Veronica dynamic? Why on earth are they not interacting? It's maddening.
Kevin... don't even get me started. He sucks. He sucks, big time. I never liked Kevin and Moose. I tried but they were like air to me. So to find out Kevin is now even a more terrible friend to Betty due to his break up with Moose just pisses me off all the more. He's sht on Betty before. He was obsessed with Veronica in season 1, he's turned his back on Betty before... but using his break up as a reason to reject and not be there for Betty once again is ridiculous. At this point, I hope he endures the baptism at The Farm without getting revived. Adios, Kevin. You've messed with Betty too many times for me to care about you.
Poor Betty... having to deal with her crazy a$$ family all by herself. Polly is another one I wish would join Kevin and not get revived. What a worthless idiot. Has she been baptized yet? If so, let's do it again, and without the CPR. Where are her innocent, poor kids? Those poor kids! Can someone please save them! Swear to God, Hal, the psychopath is a better family member to Betty than Alice and Polly which is as pathetic as it gets. Admittedly, I'm curious to see what CMM is going to do with the cult leader role. That's about the only interest I have in this storyline. That and I'm glad Alice mentioned selling the Cooper house. Hopefully it means Betty will never live with Alice again.
Archie and the boxing and dirty matches... ready to fall asleep. Although, he should have grabbed the money, lol. Whatever, amazingly dumb but adorable Archie turned out okay in this one. I am still shocked that he's basically been to hell and back yet his ex-girlfriend and two childhood best friends don't really care what he's up to.
Archie/Josie are the shining light in this episode. I love them. The chemistry between the two actors is so soft and smooth... they make Archie/Josie so tender and believable. Even if they had sex pretty quickly, it doesn't matter because it's clear an established emotional connection exists between them. It felt right.
Josie's singing was the best of the series to date... man, did I love her creation of the classic Tina T song. Her voice was magical.
I'm still trying to figure out what Gladys is doing back home. She did get stuff done... recruiting Veronica to spy Hiram, striking a deal with Hiram to take over the Fizzle Rocks business, and while, a dumb idea, bringing in ex-Ghoulies to add to the number of Serpents. She even had time to make breakfast, lol. I love the actress... her talent is apparent. In every scene, her acting is so good I feel like I'm watching the large screen instead of a CW show. That said, the character is full of dirt and I'm afraid Jughead is going to suffer the most when it's all over and she inevitably leaves. Still wondering if she killed Penny or not. I feel like she didn't or else she wouldn't be loosely mentioning her so much. Oh well.
I am not remotely feeling the Cheryl and Toni’s new gang the Pretty Poisons storyline... what Cheryl did by messing up Fangs and Sweet Pea was not cool. It was confusing and cruel to say the least. I feel a break up coming because once again, Cheryl is being Cheryl and pissing Toni off. Speaking of Toni... I know Jughead shouldn't have been so quick to rip her out of the Serpents but her request to take over the Queen title was lame. I still hope eventually she becomes a Serpent again though. It is who she is.
Veronica is in serious trouble once again... owes money, working with Gladys, covering things up to help the situation with her parents, what a mess. I think Hermione is in major trouble with Hiram. He has that mafia, calm, but dangerous look to him every second he even glances at Hermione and she knows it. He understands she made a payment to the governor right around the time he was shot. Veronica took the blame for torching the Fizzle Rocks supply and equipment… but the way Hiram looks at Hermione reminds me of the Godfather shortly before the family member was murdered.
So I guess we were clued in to notice that the ex-Farm woman used the word “ascend” in her conversation with Betty. Not a huge revelation but it's a done deal that the Gargoyle King mystery and the The Farm mystery are connected. I still don't think Edgar Evernever is the real Gargoyle King but both storylines are connected, that is for sure.
Where was Reggie in this one?
Where was Fred? (Hope Luke is going to be okay).
I will never stop watching this show even if it's as crazy as it gets. I just can't. I fully admit as much. As a result, I really hope next season goes back to season 1 roots... the core friendships/dynamics have to be front and center again. Betty and Veronica have to start remembering they are best friends.I wish I could like this more than once. This season is beyond a hot mess.
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Well Cheryl wasn’t really loyal at all to the serpents and Toni wasn’t that loyal either, considering she sold out her so called family to her girlfriend. And the reason the gang is so small is because of the riot night lastvseasin, FP said most of the serpents ran off that’s not on Jughead. and he didn’t Bring in the gouhlies, he decided not to last night, Gladys is the one who did. Jughead at the end said that it was a mistake and Gladys didn’t listen. That again is not on him.
Also it’s hard to like Cheryl when now she had her gang beat yon fangs and sweet pea. Just because it was girls beating up guys doesn’t make it better. She’s messed up, it’s not even funny.
The writers are making a mess of this season actually. It’s not even funny.
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1 hour ago, Snookums said:
Okay, so this is some bizarro world blend of Scientology, Apocalypse Now, and various 50s JD movies with lots of boring pawn moving in between (with a skosh of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome for spice!) You go on with your bad self, show.
Once again, these crazy ass multiple storylines means that characters who should be deeply involved with each other never even speak. Does Fred notice Archie's latest near-death experience? Does Jughead help Betty out beyond the most perfunctory advice? Does Kevin even exist beyond being the latest in a series of betrayals making Betty feel totally alone? Will Veronica get any help from her latest boyfriend who's mysteriously NOWHERE? Will Betty and Veronica ever even speak again? Didn't Keller get friggin' MARRIED to JOSIE'S MOTHER like, a week ago?
You get the idea. While the actors do their best with the slivers of reality they're working in, the fact is Riverdale has splintered into various pocket universes, all of which are apparently parallel to each other and never meet except to branch off into some insane Mandelbrot set of plot machinations. The entire Pretty Poison thing was so damn stupid and existed only to set up Cheryl and Toni's inevitable and long overdue breakup, but it can't be just that, it also has to spiral into this crazed dredging of all the fifty thousand gangs in Riverdale led by You Will Never Be Brando Teenager or whatever the hell that was. Jughead, naturally, says barely a word to Betty (who, as Serpent Queen, should theoretically be taking an interest, right?) and nothing to his supposed best friend and recent traveling companion/rescued from death AGAIN, Archie.
Archie, meanwhile, is refreshingly himself--that is, a rock-stupid darling half-grown Boxer puppy who cannot accumulate any memory or experience no matter how hard he tries. He leaps from a reasonable outlet for his anger--boxing training--to deciding he needs a match right after Keller tells him he's suicidally unready to come anywhere near such a setup to agreeing to THROW A FIGHT for a Mob guy in exactly four minutes! Even for him that's a record. Josie, who hey! Got lines this week although apparently not a mother, at least tries to talk sense into him, but it's Archie. Luckily, Archie is still protected by a bemused God so not only does he not get flat out murdered in the ring, he continues his tradition of hot sex with a loving, gorgeous woman right after being beaten half to death.
Betty: man, if there was going to be a case made for why her father seems to be the better bet parenting wise, this episode was it. The sendup of Scientology was pretty much moved from subtext to BIG BOLD LETTERS at this point; I would like to know why Alice, of all people, isn't connecting the extremely obvious points between The Farm and the G&G game, but she's clearly full on delusional at this point.
(The one thing I actually agreed with was selling that house. Not to finance Alice's nuttery, of course, but frankly they must need the money at this point! Does she even have a job anymore?)
Veronica's storyline was lots of running in place, really. I like Gina Gershon and her devilish ways--she's the first evil character who seems to grasp that it's easier to control teenagers if you Den Mother them rather than try to pretend they're adults, but I'm really unclear on why she's there at all. She seemed to be doing just fine in Cleveland and suddenly she wants to burn down Riverdale with Jellybean by her side or whatever? Just wear your cool-ass scarf/hair feather combo and reach for higher things, woman.
The farm got Alice a job as a reporter of some kind a few episodes back, when she took bettys money.
And I agree it’s strange that not one character talks to each other at all anymore. None of them have any idea about what’s going on in their lives. The brief interaction with Bughead proved this, “good luck with the cult and your mom Betty”, “okay good luck with the serpents jug”.. okay? And I firmly believe Bughead is solid and can do their own thing but wow was that a ridiculous scene that just proves no one talks to anyone. It’s how I felt when Betty was at the sisters and finally called Veronica and Veronica was like “omg I thought you were at the darm with your mom!” Like whoa.. really? Some best friend you are Veronica, the sisters is bad but Betty would never willingly go to the farm either so why weren’t you worried about that?
But back to this episode.. no one talks to anyone. Wasn’t that the issue they supposedly worked on from last season? I can’t imagine viewers actually like this. Someone said the show is trending badly each week and to that I say good. I also agree writing for the plots-which are bad if you ask me- just to move the stories and not connecting the dots or people or relationships to them is ruining the show.
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6 minutes ago, MollyWebber said:
When has Kevin been on Betty's side? He has chosen Veronica's side over hers, Chic's side over hers, and now The Farm over her. He even bailed on her when they were saving Archie to go after Joaquin lol! I've been holding out hope that they would showcase them better as friends but it hasn't happened.
@MollyWebber love! I feel the same way. Kevin has never been that great of a friend to Betty, actually. He has turned on Super easily. It also doesn’t help that we’ve never seen this bond they supposedly have. He was entranced by Veronica as soon as she appeared on the scene and immediately wanted to be her BFF. This is why I’ve never gotten the Kevin love to tell you the truth. It’s strange how much hate certain characters get and how much love others get and those who get away with so much worse.
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9 minutes ago, tennisgurl said:
This is most weirdly pro gangland violence teen drama ever. And I continue to be amazed that such a small town can sustain so many gangs/cults/criminal organizations/conspiracies for such a long period of time!
Not as good as the last episode, although there were some parts I liked. I actually like Josie and Archie a lot more than I expected to, even if it still feels kinda random and certainly wont be endgame. And most of their plot was alright, certainly better than a lot of what they've gotten (Archie gets high level drama, Josie gets nothing) lately, so I will take it. Even Papa Keller got a decent subplot! By the way, hows he doing after all that drama with his former BFF scarring the shit out of his son and kidnapping him?
Betty, maybe its time to cut your losses and have Fred adopt you? I mean, Alice has always been an asshole, just different flavors of asshole, and this time, she has "crazy cult lady who commits her daughter to evil nuns" going on. Betty is a much nicer person than many others would be, running off to save her from her own bad life choices after what she pulled, which Betty seems to have forgotten about. She is still her mom, so I guess I get it, but if Polly and Alice ever come to their kind of senses, they better give Betty a BIG cake or something.
My God, the operatic music when Alice was getting drowned! It was so much...everything, even by this shows ridiculous standards!
So Cheryl is starting her own little militia with her girl gang, even if it was supposedly a gift to Toni. Yeah, not a shocker. And what exactly do the Serpents stand for or mean or whatever everyone talks about anyway? They always talk about it, but has anyone defined it, beyond that whole thing about them being the remnants of a destroyed Native American tribe of motorcycle bikers or something?
No wonder Jughead is such a messed up kid, his parents are wacked out! Speaking of families, the Lodges are about to implode, and its going to be such a hot mess.
Yup Alice is the worst but Betty will continue to be there for her and sorry it really continues to make her look like a doormat. Like at some point what are the writers going for?
And yeah I agree with everyone, like in season 2, everyone is so separate from each other and it’s not good
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I don’t think Luke even was a guest on live with kelly and ryan. Also yes jelly was a guest star on Riverdale a month ago. She sort of talked about what happened this morning but only briefly and said she pretty much only knew what everyone else knew via media outlets, Luke being in the medically induced coma. And yes her husband plays Veronica’s dad, also kelly has net Luke many times, she hosted their comic con panel last August.