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I can't speak for the East Coast; however, I will say unequivocally that we have sustained a massive wave of people relocating to AZ from CA and other West Coast states in the last few years. The result of that migration has driven up housing costs (and all related industries) markedly. Our gas prices have recently settled at around $3.50/gal; however, over the last year they hovered around $5.00 gal. Utilities are also very high.

I agree that her robust financial situation was hard for me to understand. She seemed to have a background in govt and higher education. She presently is on a fellowship that I presume is at our local university, ASU. From what I read her stipend would be about $20K a year...NOT MUCH! I have no idea how someone with that background/present professional status is in a situation essentially qualifying as a "millionaire." I fully admit, however, that she obviously has other financial resources that are separate and apart from her professional remuneration. Lastly, having lived in Phoenix for 32 yrs. I will share that it is one of the most EXPENSIVE places in the U.S. to live!

I follow Tori on Instagram. She posts each and every day. In most of the videos If it weren't for the fact that we KNOW that her children are dwarfs and Jackson's leg deformities, she portrays their lives EXACTLY as she would if they were "normal sized." That would include Lilah's speech delays that Tori seems completely oblivious about trying to recognize and/or correct. Her commentary, the various activities they engage in (like yesterday it was Lilah WALKING ACROSS a thin wooden plank atop their running stream from one side to another). I admit that I had 'My heart in my mouth" at the sight but Lilah was sure-footed and made the walk easily. Even baby SiSi was joining in on the fun. The children (and Tori) are ALWAYS wearing beautiful, new clothing (including shoes) from vendors that Tori sponsors (so I assume they are all comped). That would include interior design sponsors, menu supply sponsors and toy sponsors. The house seems clean and organized and the number of "sponsors" that Tori has signed up seems to be increasing by the day. In short, even though there may be health problems with more down the road, from the vantage point of how well the family is functioning at this point seems quite good and they seem happy and mostly unimpeded by their dwarfism.

Maybe the other two, as well. Thinking about it, maybe the principals in each case are easier to interview because they already have experience appearing "on camera" and maybe the locations for the various cases are easier to film due to their appearances on the other shows? The reason I'm referring to these aspects of this OBVIOUS redundancy is because I ALSO notice that all 3 shows have come to rely heavily on: cases where they solve cold cases through the field of FORENSIC ANTHROPOLOGY and the use of "bloggers" covering the cases who are well versed in appearing on camera and offering interesting features they have uncovered. In other words, the producers of the 3 shows have a lot of their "work" already provided by these interested individuals. My preference would be for the staffs of these vintage true-crime shows to roll up their sleeves a little more and ferret out some great new crime stories to interest the audience that awaits their episodes each week!

What in ALL TARNATION qualifies THIS CASE for coverage on ALL 3 true crime shows most of us watch each week? I'm noticing that this season all we're getting are REPEATS, variations of which each show highlights...examples being: MURDAUGH, L.I. SERIAL KILLER, AZ RUNAWAY GIRL WITH SUSPICIOUS FATHER AND NO BODY, case on tonight about Minnesota murder of Heidi. I'm thinking that the budgets for these shows may be dwindling. I know the kids don't watch cable/networks. Only stream. Maybe these shows are not available streaming???

AS A SIDE NOTE: The County Atty who charged the case, was Allister Adel, the first woman County Atty we've ever elected in Maricopa County (where I live). Unfortunately, a short time after she took office in 2020, she fell and hit her head suffering a brain bleed. Soon afterward, there were reports of her having alcohol and anxiety problems. She soon took a leave of absence from her post. This was at the height of the COVID pandemic. Unfortunately, she passed away in 2022 at the age of 45. Rachel Mitchell was selected to replace Allister Adel.as our County Attorney (D.A.) She later ran for election on her own and won. Some may recall Rachel Mitchell testifying at the contentious confirmation hearing for Justice Kavanaugh as an impartial witness. She assessed Justice Kavanaugh's fitness to serve on the bench and gave him high marks.

YES!! It was on 20/20 or 48 hours. I COULDN'T BELIEVE the true-crime shows are covering the same cases!! So STUPID! Andrea was up to her usual "fashion faux pas." The outfit that particularly caught my eye was some frilly pink-and-white number the hemline of which was half way up her thigh. Looked like a chiffon-type fabric one would wear to a garden party. She chose it to do one of her interviews with the detective and/or missing girl's family. LOL

Agreed. It's like an immediate reach for EYE BLEACH...his appearance is like body graffiti...too much and very distracting from whatever he's doing in his professional role. What would propel an individual to appear that way? Can someone please explain it to me?😆

I think of Maggie as one of the "help" where Alec was concerned. I think she had a true bond with Blanca, the housekeeper. I don't think she had ANY POWER IN THAT MARRIAGE. Maggie had already consulted with a divorce atty regarding ending her marriage. Alec is a true sociopath and his behavior over MANY years proves that he subjugated Maggie for many years. Whether his "drug addict" claims were true or not, he was not sharing much of his life with his wife. His son, Paul, was also his victim in more ways than one. Paul's abusive and controlling behavior the night of the boat crash that killed Mallory was indicative of an "entitled" life modelled by his father. Maggie was "out of the loop" along with her ally, Blanca. Alec knew that Paul's upcoming trial was going to reveal his enormous "hidden life" so he didn't "blink an eye" and killed both him and Maggie.

I thought the most interesting new revelations (if you could call it that) were from the housekeeper.

It's always about the $$$$. That's what I believe. I COULDN'T BELIEVE that 20/20 was reviving the Laredo murders case and Dateline was reviving the Murdaugh case. Both these shows (and 48 hrs) are vintage offerings. Been around for DECADES. Maybe the mgt has decided to cut costs by relying on their competitors for material and then producing their own spin on them. They obviously have no respect for their viewers, MANY OF US of very long duration.

I thought the SAME THING! However, I know someone around her age who has a lot of kids (7) and for 2 YRS after her last child was born, she looked "pregnant" even though she wasn't. Perhaps, after so many pregnancies, your belly fat expands to the point where if you don't take stringent diet/exercise measures, it remains full of fat. Eventually, the person I know went on a strict diet because her eldest daughter was going to be 16 and they planned a big party where pictures were sure to be taken. She got down to a size 0 (she's petite so that's a "normal" size for her) and looked FABULOUS for the event. HOWEVER, today, 5 yrs later, her weight ballooned up again, and she's back to "looking pregnant".

It seemed to me that the beard was his form of "performative art." He seemed to relish the "attention" he was sure to receive anywhere he appeared. Maybe being in the military for so many years caused him to "act out" in that way but, to me it was very juvenile. I thought he looked ridiculous. They did seem very compatible and he certainly should be commended for serving his Country for such a long time.

Well, the truth is that Zach has had steady, reliable and continuing income from the show for over 20 years, so on that basis alone it's possible that he had/has a financial plan that would allow them to live off the income of that principal for the rest of their lives...I say "possible". We don't know their position regarding their house (mortgage) but I believe that with the improvements they've made it must be valued at over $1million. So there's that...perhaps Tori could monetize her social medial platforms to the point where you would have to subscribe to see her posts. I see that a LOT of people are doing that on "X" (twitter) and on You Tube. She could become a spokesperson for some of the products she hawks. The more I'm writing this post the more I see that it would be possible for them to survive financially without getting "jobs" and without the show.

Agreed but still wondering how ZiT will make a living without the show. Tori has a massive Instagram following with dozens upon dozens of "sponsors" that she shills merchandise/services for daily. HOWEVER, she's only a "celebrity influencer" because of the show, unless I'm wrong...also, I'm not sure she gets cash from these "partners"...she may be getting mostly free stuff (like trips and other items). Zach is unemployable and Tori is raising 3 special needs children who certainly couldn't tackle full-time employment. So, there's that....

TRUE! My 600 lb Life comes to mind. We never know in advance if there's a new season or not! With that show, the past 2 seasons were extremely disappointing (with very few success stories) so if TLC is cancelling it, few would really care; however, with the Roloff's I thought that the content of each season was OK and there was still some interest in seeing it. However, it, too, seems to be waning in audience interest as the years go on,.

Why would TLC go through the expense of filming a season of the show if they're unsure whether to renew it? It simply doesn't make any sense to me.

Agreed; however, when the interior design woman whom he assisted after her accident, actually VISITED HIS EXTREMELY DILAPIDATED, FILTHY home (an eyesore in the midst of a lovely residential area) it's very odd that her entire opinion of him didn't turn "on a dime." ANYONE who could have lived in such a "hell-hole", REGARDLESS OF HOW BENIGN AND CONGENIAL he may have presented in his work life would have raised an IMMEDIATE RED FLAG with me! Even though he used the pretext to entice her to visit with a planned "remodel" job, it was clear that this was NOT A HEALTHY, "NORMAL" PERSON.

Understood but wouldn't TLC want to justify their pre-production and production costs by bringing more episodes to advertisers for their participation?? Not sure where the show stands in the ratings? Have their # of viewers stayed about the same over the years? Grown? Decreased?

So what I'm understanding is that they shot the full season (as i recall last year was a very abbreviated "season"), BUT they don't know if it will be aired or when it will be aired? I'm going to speculate that TLC wouldn't have gone to the expense of shooting all those episodes without airing them as that would be ridiculous. I mean, it's season 25 so it's not like the show is an unknown quantity. As for mention of Zach's health conditions having to do with his dwarfism, that would lead me to believe that ZiT are still active participants in the show. Also, Tori had numerous Instagram posts last week about Zach competing in a soccer tournament in Argentina. His team lost; however, his participation would indicate that he is capable of a highly physical type of activity so that's a good thing. Of course, that event took place after the season wrapped in August so there's that....

I think that MOST if not ALL of that trip was "comped" to her because she is a social media "influencer" (I believe she has millions of Instagram followers) and heavily advertised where she was staying and the things in the Park they were doing. As far as them spending the $$$ they need to improve the physical health of their children, that seems to be quite another matter entirely. I've asked several times if anyone knows if they are currently filming the show but never received any feedback. I asked because that would have been another channel of payment for their activities. It would also clarify whether they are at the same level of financial "health" as they were for all the years they were receiving TLC $$$.

I seem to recall that when Jackson had his "surgery" a year or so ago and it was obvious that no improvement had been achieved (some may say his condition worsened) they stated it would be YEARS until any improvement might be achieved. They emphasized that Jackson would have to grow taller to have his leg bones straighten. As for Lilah, Tori insists on residing in a state of "denial and delusion" regarding her speech. On her Instagram acct she's constantly highlighting the kids in various videos. When Lilah is involved she converses with her in a normal manner. Lilah responds with some "sounds" or "gibberish" but NOTHING resembling "normal" speech. I thought Lilah being in school full days would involve "speech therapy" but if she is getting professional help it's not apparent. I might add that when Jackson speaks I hear more defined words, but STILL don't understand what he's saying.

Yes, I agree with you. I was surprised and disappointed they didn't reveal exactly where the homes were located in Westchester County. I wonder why they did that??? Thank you! I know all about Tuckahoe because when we moved from the Bronx, N.Y. when I was a kid, we moved to Tuckahoe!!

Agreed! She said she was an acct mgr?? I couldn't make "heads or tails" out of what he said he did for a living? I also didn't need to know her (their) strong feelings about not wanting to get married or have kids.

I noticed the SAME THING....I got the impression that her "brand" of marketing herself on the social scene was based upon her thin figure with very thin legs and HER BELIEF that she was "forever young" (like a fading movie star).☺️ Her hair was absolutely horrible but I bet she didn't think so. They never made ANY REFERENCE to her having a viable career and the home she bought was $600K so maybe she got a great "severance package" from her former husband. Another remark that she made stuck with me: The realtor made mention of the fact that she was living ALONE and she responded (as an aside); "I won't be living alone for long."😄