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On another note, does anyone know if Matt and Caryn when Matt and Caryn plan to be married and whether the big house Matt is building is finished? I know the show is "kaput" but I was just curious about Matt and Caryn.

I wondered the same thing because it's a common practice for the "true crime" shows to have "copycat" episodes of the same cases.

I had such conflicting thoughts about this episode. I was already familiar with the case and had no idea the results of the trial were recent. My conflict was because they portrayed their precious son as very intelligent, caring, passionate, gifted, considerate and mature. The death occurred because he breached every one of those admirable characteristics and went on an unplanned escapade with the creep who killed him. I fully concur that you NEVER BLAME A VICTIM. I'm clear on that. However, to have undertaken such a risky activity that subjected his FAMILY (including the grandparents who were Holocaust survivors) to the outcome that occurred, struck me as problematic. No offense to the victim or his parents, BUT (I KNOW, there's always a "but") given all the facts and circumstances of the situation, I believe their precious son's life should have been left in "neutral" territory.

I hope the tragedy of her life circumstances are now eclipsed by her peaceful rest in Heaven. The residual consequences of her profound level of abuse as a child for years on end were simply too much for her mind and body to endure longer than it did. Hopefully, the progress she made at the end of her life allowed her children and other loved ones to honor her with the knowledge that she was strong enough to fight to the end and succeed in trying to become healthy.

So, Dr. Now's son, Jonathan's production company is responsible for BOTH SHOWS? My sense is that both know that Dr. Now is a well-recognized marketing "brand" that has a tremendous audience, SOOOOO, as Dr. Now is nearing his 80's, they're making sure that they're optimizing the "brand" by getting Dr. Now's participation in as many of these shows as possible. Nothing wrong with that...simply pointing out the obvious.

Is the TLC season synonymous with the NEW SHOW I saw promoted on LIFETIME? "My 6000 lb Diaries" (or something like that title? where Dr. Now also appears??

You make my point! She was friends with him for 6 yrs before they became "intimate." As I stated in my original post, I'm not going to say anything judgmental or critical about Melissa's relationship with the murderer as she is deceased so I opt for letting her "rest in peace." Hopefully, lessons learned for future women in similar situations. There's so much publicity and attention regarding women "being in charge of their own bodies" so that principle should be applied to women when choices need to be made regarding whether or not to engage in unprotected activities that can lead to pregnancy....especially as it pertains to whether the male involved is interested in becoming a father.

I could say a lot more, but out of respect to Melissa and the unborn child, I can't bring myself to say anything negative EXCEPT to remark that she had a LONG "friendship" with that man over many years so it's regrettable that she didn't understand different parts of his personality. My experience tells me that if he was handling "multiple women" at the time of the crime, that was probably his pattern when they were friends. So very sorry she AND HER FAMILY had to suffer so much, including the unborn baby. I will say that, based on my MANY YEARS of doing criminal defense work, they better put him in "solitary" confinement for quite a while, as killing unborn children doesn't pass muster with general population inmates. That I can say as a FACT!

Thanks for the correction...I must have TLC "on the brain" because I sense they are cutting costs for new production...maybe HGTV too?

I had the same thing happen and I'm FURIOUS! I had to delete every single episode as each WAS NOT NEW...THEY WERE SHOWS THAT AIRED IN 2022! I wonder whose idea this was and why the cable companies (mine is Cox) took the listings as given even though they were bogus! Also wonder if TLC will actually produce any NEW SHOWS...it seems like they are cost-cutting all over the place.

I worked on the defense side of the criminal justice system for MANY years (now retired) and handled a few cases like theirs. There is a psychological condition that occurs after years of parental sexual abuse that's akin to "battered woman's syndrome"(where the woman stays in the relationship) that prevents the victims from fleeing and finding a completely new way of life. In the brothers case, they would need a LOT of $$ to flee to another locale, they would have to find some type of work and MOSTLY, deal with the anxiety and trepidation that their father would seek them out and cause them great bodily harm (I'll refrain from mentioning the obvious outcome the brothers mentioned because from my experience, the adult abusers often used psychological techniques to impact the victim's ability to survive outside of the home rather than physical violence). IMO, the brothers have served enough time (35 years), they have an exemplary prison record and are very remorseful and take responsibility for their crimes. I hope they're released.

It's obvious SHE WASN'T THINKING....

HER LOOKS???? I'm sorry if I seem "superficial"; however, I didn't see her looks, at the time of the marriage nor decades later when she was murdered, as being anything special. Perhaps she had other "assets" that Jose found "attractive"; However, not sure what those would be...in any event, her state of "delusion and denial" regarding the sons being molested must go down in the annals of "parenting" as one of the most egregious. I worked on the defense side of the criminal justice system for many years (now retired) and handled many cases of criminal behavior from defendants who suffered incest for many years from family members. Never, not even once, did I find that the defendant lied regarding the validity of his/her claim. There were always records and/or witnesses who were told what was going on behind closed doors. I think and hope that the brothers are released as, regardless of the basis of the release, they have served enough time behind bars AND have exemplary records in prison. It's time for them to rejoin society (of course, with a period or parole supervision.

I thought that the traumatic history both sisters had in foster care may have led to the life experiences both had later in life. Without long-term psychotherapy it's hard to navigate life as an adult in a healthy manner. These sisters illustrate that fact. That dynamic continues generation after generation. I noticed all the different last names among the children from both sisters. Now these kids have the additional issue to deal with regarding the criminal matter the show covered.

Same situation here with Cox in Phoenix. There's not ONE new episode and my DVR behaves exactly as yours does. For whatever reason, I noticed no NEW PROGRAMMING ON TLC. Dr. Pimple Popper (that I enjoy) was cancelled. Dr. Lee has a completely new series going to be produced for Lifetime TV, Little People, Big World was, of course, cancelled when Tori and Zach withdrew participation with their children, and My 600 lb life is in (seamingly) a perennial state of re-runs. I see re-runs listed for shows, like "Four Weddings" and "Say yes to the dress" that were produced 10 yrs ago! Wonder what's going on with TLC???