pdlinda

I worked on the defense side of the criminal justice system for MANY years (now retired) and handled a few cases like theirs. There is a psychological condition that occurs after years of parental sexual abuse that's akin to "battered woman's syndrome"(where the woman stays in the relationship) that prevents the victims from fleeing and finding a completely new way of life. In the brothers case, they would need a LOT of $$ to flee to another locale, they would have to find some type of work and MOSTLY, deal with the anxiety and trepidation that their father would seek them out and cause them great bodily harm (I'll refrain from mentioning the obvious outcome the brothers mentioned because from my experience, the adult abusers often used psychological techniques to impact the victim's ability to survive outside of the home rather than physical violence). IMO, the brothers have served enough time (35 years), they have an exemplary prison record and are very remorseful and take responsibility for their crimes. I hope they're released.

It's obvious SHE WASN'T THINKING....

HER LOOKS???? I'm sorry if I seem "superficial"; however, I didn't see her looks, at the time of the marriage nor decades later when she was murdered, as being anything special. Perhaps she had other "assets" that Jose found "attractive"; However, not sure what those would be...in any event, her state of "delusion and denial" regarding the sons being molested must go down in the annals of "parenting" as one of the most egregious. I worked on the defense side of the criminal justice system for many years (now retired) and handled many cases of criminal behavior from defendants who suffered incest for many years from family members. Never, not even once, did I find that the defendant lied regarding the validity of his/her claim. There were always records and/or witnesses who were told what was going on behind closed doors. I think and hope that the brothers are released as, regardless of the basis of the release, they have served enough time behind bars AND have exemplary records in prison. It's time for them to rejoin society (of course, with a period or parole supervision.

I thought that the traumatic history both sisters had in foster care may have led to the life experiences both had later in life. Without long-term psychotherapy it's hard to navigate life as an adult in a healthy manner. These sisters illustrate that fact. That dynamic continues generation after generation. I noticed all the different last names among the children from both sisters. Now these kids have the additional issue to deal with regarding the criminal matter the show covered.

Same situation here with Cox in Phoenix. There's not ONE new episode and my DVR behaves exactly as yours does. For whatever reason, I noticed no NEW PROGRAMMING ON TLC. Dr. Pimple Popper (that I enjoy) was cancelled. Dr. Lee has a completely new series going to be produced for Lifetime TV, Little People, Big World was, of course, cancelled when Tori and Zach withdrew participation with their children, and My 600 lb life is in (seamingly) a perennial state of re-runs. I see re-runs listed for shows, like "Four Weddings" and "Say yes to the dress" that were produced 10 yrs ago! Wonder what's going on with TLC???

It was Erin Moriarty who interviewed the creep...AND I watched his eyes as he was lying through his teeth when she interviewed him in jail and he never blinked once! He is a real "piece of work"...too bad, with all her training in self-defense she was unable to save her own life. She knew he was trouble and even though she cancelled him on social media, I was very surprised she didn't take more active steps to distance herself from him.

Yes, I agree with you.

I'm so glad I did A LOT of "work" on myself leading up to my divorce 20 years ago. I was "married" for 25 yrs. I was educated, spoke to a therapist and started a very successful career on the cusp of getting my divorce so I was IRONCLAD that I wanted to remain "single" because as I was taught: Happy marriages occur when a woman marries someone who is emotionally, spiritually and intellectually compatible with her. Otherwise you're not marrying a "man"...you're marrying a PROJECT!

Agreed! When I saw the mini skirt as she had convo with serious investigator, I laughed out loud...LOL Also agree with you about living alone! Pure heavenly BLISS... was divorced after 27 yrs "marriage" LOL...I felt as if the Governor commuted my life sentence...when I see these professional women falling for these LOSERS I wish I could "shake them into reality."

I thought that after it was revealed that Aileen's mother died of cancer when she was a child and that was followed by the death of her father from a heart attack a few years later she was left with a permanent emotional disability. There was no mention of Aileen ever receiving intensive psychological therapy after her parents died so when her older sister(who served as her care giver after the death of her parents) moved to CA, I thought the dye was cast for Aileen to flounder and wind up in the disastrous situation that finally killed her. I would never advocate for a person to die, but in Aileen's case, her behaviors and choices were so self-destructive that it was almost as though she was "tempting fate" and eventually she lost her battle with "life." The two monsters who killed her were sentenced appropriately and I hope they serve their time with the thought of how depraved and horrendous their actions were that killed Aileen churning through their minds every single day!!

I agree that there was REASONABLE DOUBT in this case. That's the way our criminal justice system was set up: If there's reasonable doubt, the jury must acquit (Johnny Cochran in the OJ case). I don't think the State will EVER get a conviction! They can try her again and I predict there'll be another hung jury. Maybe the State can call the family in and explain the flaws in its case...most of all the police deficiencies. Maybe the State can offer Karen a plea on a lesser charge (DWI or some other charge that she can plead to without admitting guilt for "murder" or even "involuntary manslaughter" both of which I don't think they will ever get a jury to convict her on) One thing I would be curious to know....how much did Karen pay for Alan Jackson to represent her? With the second trial looming, I bet it was near $1 million! He did a masterful job and whatever she paid him, it was worth it!

Yes, he goes to a church connected school and your comment seems very plausible. It may be difficult to recruit substitute teachers and Tori may have been accommodating them in filling in for an indisposed regular teacher. You're absolutely right. I don't know any women who fit into that category.

I'm not sure I would agree that anyone would become a substitute teacher as a remedy for "boredom"??? With 3 young kids (youngest a toddler) there are many other "pass times" that would more likely fill the bill rather than dealing with ornery youngsters for several days in a row as a sub teacher...however, she may have thought her being in the classroom might have enhanced Jackson's status with his peers and that she and Jackson would probably have had a chance to eat lunch together, so there's that... On the $$$ issue, my thought is that the CONSTANT shilling Tori does for the various products she reps online+the pressure she's always under to produce new and fresh CONTENT for her numerous social media sites would not be necessary unless she could use the cash. Also, her pushing her photography business...AGAIN, in this economy their overhead, with prices being as they are, must be quite high and she may feel the need to keep the cash coming in so she can contribute as much as possible to maintaining their lifestyle. Kids are EXPENSIVE!

It seems that Tori is attempting to generate income anyway she can. I don't think the "influencer" business brought in the cash they need to stay afloat without the show, so she's branching into other things. They started that podcast but from what I gather, you need investors, advertisers, sponsors to underwrite a podcast and attract subscribers to make "real money". I didn't subscribe but saw a few promos on Instagram so not sure the podcast is lucrative. Then, I saw she was advertising her photography business. Now, I see she's substitute teaching?? OMG, speaking as an ex-sub teacher many years ago before I had children, I can say that's a very hard job (like herding cats) because kids Jackson's age are eager to "act up" once they know their regular teacher is absent. Also, the pay is very LOW, in the greater scheme of things. I sincerely hope that the family thought through their severance from the show and that they have a substantial investment portfolio that they can draw from to help support the family. In this economy, with prices SKY HIGH, I can't see how Tori's many ventures can cover their bills without supplemental income. We know that Zach doesn't produce any income from working, but, hopefully, saved and invested wisely during his many years of working on the show. Finally, I noticed on Instagram that Lilah is still unable to speak properly and in the last "reel" Tori posted of the family hiking, Lilah wasn't wearing glasses and her eyes were noticeably crossed.

Especially when that person has some cognitive deficits. I think I heard him say he has no "short term memory"????