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I totally agree with what you said about Teddi. Teddi needs to go.

I really liked Katherine. Í miss her and wish they would bring her back even as a friend.

Thank you

Fuck I'm still on Erica's side! Damnit! I still think she went bat shit crazy on Eileen and was hard and rough on Teddi but without being diagnostically crazy. She's polite to a point but then goes balistic if you keep pushing her. Maybe this time Erica was just having a bad few days and people started stirring shit and wouldn't let it go. It doesn't mean she's depressed or bipolar. It means shes pissed that someone keeps insisting that she should have an issue where she sees none. On top of that she's been hung over and she has a migraine. She's like many normal people and having a bad day or two and wants to chill, not engage and try to walk away to de-escalate. She blows up because people won't let something lie, or she is accused of being something that's not true , or somebody brought her family into it out of the blue. She had a lapse of awareness while sitting and showed her lily. She did say she was over it but she wasn't and that was on her. The girls and production wouldn't let it drop all season long. She was accused of having selective amnesia. She was chastised for sending a hand written condolence note. She is now told "she's not being honest with herself" because she disagrees with but also at the same time accepts, someone's viewpoint. A bear is a bear. We know it's a bear when it does bear like things and it's let us know "Hey I'm a bear these are my issues, this the way I do things, and these are my boundaries. Cross them, poke at me and I'll act like a bear." "Don't then call me crazy because I acted like a bear. I told you and showed you long ago who I am." Call me a liar in a nice way "she's not being honest with herself" or "convenient amnesia", don't respect my opinion and still keep bringing it up after I have stated my reasons & after I accepted the difference of opinion, chastise me for being kind... Fuck, I'll hit the roof.

I love you. "Teddi as Renfield" HAHAHAHAHAHADAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! The rest of it.... Agreed! And ... A guy may do a "whoa, did I just see that" if there is a lapse of self awareness on the person doing the flashing, or take a gander if the person is knowingly flashing and I'm ok with both of those. It's natural. But to continue to look, or to not tell one's wife "Tell your coworker/friend that she's taking my picture" is flat out wrong. If any of the other ladies knew and didn't say something. That was far worse. You're good people Kungfubunny. The more I see of Teddi the more she's telling me who she is and it's not good.

I would wonder when this was filmed and when the lawsuits were filled. Did they overlap?

Yup, you know it hurt but there's that bit of schadenfreude happening. Kyle does look heavier. While I can see Kyle and Teddy fretting and blue over a weight gain I don't see Erica doing that. She is a pleasure animal. She'll eat the pumpkin pie for breakfast knowing and accepting that the pleasure comes with a later price.

Positive and good were the private boats large and small bringing supplies to the area and seeing surfers and jet skis ferrying those supplies to shore for people and animals.

But only for Kyle and Teddy. Erica was good with Lisa's Rinna and Dorit wasn't going to burn a another bridge for someone else's issue.

Because it's good tv in their eyes and it's working, look how we're talking about it. In the real world she would be fired. I'm sure the guests on that charter had a conversation with the production company and bravo after the episodes aired. I'd bet they either got some of their money back or they will be in a make-up cruise next season.

They might have if it got that far, but there was no fire in that area. The pier is south and east of Pepperdine and the Malibu marketplace. Thank the firefighters, no fire down in those areas. For the most part the fire in that area was north or west of Malibu Canyon Road, mainly up in the canyons and mountains up to and though 101/ Calabasas and not near the pier. It did burn at the top of MCR below where it transitions to Las Virgines. MCR ends at the campus and PCH.

You might be right. Really though, they all have attitude.

No excuses! There's no worries nor secondhand embarrassment here. No appologies either, you didn't take the thread off topic. Even if you do in the future, so what, we have all done that at times.

GC & TS... A match made in heaven! Oooooh that it's so yummy Dosodog. I do the same thing. In summertime, when it's super hot, I also like a spicy cold gazpacho with my grilled cheese. And no apologies about Joao! So far he's better this season and seems to be doing a great job. I'll admit that. P.S. have you ever had the Three Cheese Monte Cristo at Disneyland. Yum!

I do think it was rude and dishonest of Erica to leave Teddy's beach house last season. I think Erica knows exactly what Rinna is doing and Erica, while accepting her companionship, is as always very cautious if girlfriends. She also knows exactly what Kyle is doing. Erica's nature and experience are being validated. I think at some point in childhood Erica was emotionally hurt by some girls and she distanced herself and it happened repeatedly until she felt "you can't share, can't get close because they will use it against you", she tried it and life did become easier. It's why she is selective in sharing and on defensive now, why she is cautious around women to the point of it being detrimental to herself and won't accept and can be suspicious of their support. The lesson from childhood is reinforced because it continues to happen in adulthood... pantygate, the dog dying acknowledgement, the written condolence card, the "she not happy and doesn't conform" accusation . Erica has learned to expect a possible attack, she's surprised when it doesn't come, and hurt when she's let her guard down and gotten hit. She has told the ladies this. She went black in Hong Kong and doesn't want to go there again. Good for her but I can't blame her if she does go nuclear if she keeps getting poked. She's being polite now, upset, but polite. Keep pushing and the bomb will drop. First morning she had a hangover. Ok. The second morning she came to the breakfast table on the defensive because school girls Teddie and Kyle badgered her the night before and wouldn't accept her response when she accepted theirs. I think that hurt her and it weighed on her. She was going to be on guard. She can have a migraine and want to disengage enough to protect herself at the same time. I think she wants to have fun, and does in her own way on these trips. That it doesn't measure up to what the others think it should be speaks more about them. Now Kyle has sown another seed that Erica isn't having fun with the girls and further stirring the pot. It is hypocritical of these women to ask her to change when we are suppose to take them and their personality issues as they are. If Kyle has to be accepted for being so needy, if interloper Teddy has to be accepted for constantly seeking validation, then Erica should be accepted for her self protection issues that Kyle and Teddie just reinforced the night before. We're not only seeing season 1 Camille we are also seeing season 2 mean girl Kyle. Yes Rinna has climbed inside Erica's colon but so has Teddi to Kyle and these two are feeding off of each other's insecurities and needs thus creating a two headed monster. P. S. What are SL's?

It is. About 5-6 miles from Santa Monica Beaches.

Try it! I've been eating them that way for decades since I was a kidlet. Never watched Family Guy.

Team Erica these last two episodes. She told you she wasn't bothered by Rinna's impersonation she understood that you think differently. You kept going at her badgering, hoping she would change her mind and give you an answer acceptable to you. Teddi and Kyle disgusted me by forcing the issue. I say this as someone who thought Rinna's actions were awful at the Halloween party and as someone who doesn't generally care for either Erica G nor Erica J.

Grilled cheese is comfort food. Perfectly fine if it's on your preference sheet or you request it. Grilled cheese is that easy on the tummy late night snack to munch as I watch the moonlight on the ocean after an exquisite dinner when I have insomnia. Elevated grilled cheese is that interesting thing Ben or Adrien will make with local bread and cheese with something yummy to dip it in while we are playing with the water toys. An easy, simple, plain grilled cheese would be wonderful if I'm under the weather and can't eat what the others are enjoying. Strawberry Frosted Poptarts toasted well and buttered on both sides is something I will bring on board myself. I'll ask to borrow the toaster and ask whatever crew that's up if they want some too.

I don't have an evil alter ego but I do have an inner redhead.

Season 1 Ben was speaking with a guest about her preferences and ended with "I make everything from scratch." I don't think that phrase was ever uttered by the Siberian Slop Slinger.

Tiffany from Season 1 Top Chef saw herself and did a 180. She said so and you could see the change in her when she came back for a later season.

My daddy used to say sort of the same thing about psych majors, that they started by trying to find an answer for themselves. I asked that very question to a friend as she was finishing her PhD to become a psychologist. She smiled, nodded her head and said at first she just took the class hoping to gain insight but that it changed for her into something she was curious and passionate about.

I'll give Amelia a pass on wanting to work with people suffering eating disorders. She's still a kid trying to find her niche. If she's really interested she will pursue it and good for her. If she doesn't I hope she finds something she's happy doing. Modeling isn't going to happen as a viable career or she would have hit already, and she doesn't seem to have that magnetic energy to be a personality. Lisa R. Will use anybody even her daughter's health issues for a story line. She should not have brought it up to the ladies. It can set up expectations that create more pressure for Amelia.

Yup. Sitting there in that humid heat growing mold. Add poor kitchen management to her list of nonexistent skills.