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Oh the Nolan thing was supposed to be the 'minor cliffhanger', thankfully the cancellation happened so they didn't drag this out any longer. Oh yeah, the whole 'goodness'/'light' thing always made me cringe, so the HEA doesn't really work unless you're a cheesy show like OuaT. It really felt like a rushed checklist of cliches that they needed to get through by the end. 1. I'm sad that Emily/Amanda had to change completely from the character we grew to like all this time. This season hasn't been very kind to her as she's been mostly reactive throughout. 2. Here's where the fake out really hurts the series, she just had an amazingly show fake out death, so this one pales by comparison and feels even more pointless since that one only happened in the last few episodes anyway. 3. Yeah, character induced stupidity. Yeah, it's my ending too and it seemed more closer to the Two graves theme as well.

The writers never gave a reason to care about him, he's a bland generic villain who's just recently replaced another Royals this season.

That was what the show and the title was supposed to be about before the rushed, cancelled ending.

I would think so, she knew Diana was with Kelly, she set her up and took the child while Kelly was being beheaded.

Exactly, it's all made possible because Juliette sold them all out and told them everything.

I wish, the finale will probably end up being as predictable with the way the spoilers have been heading.

That's what makes this whole thing annoying, and then to try and pin the blame on Nick and the gang for the unforseen side effects that she herself willingly chose to do and if anything, she caused way more damaged than what was actually done to her at this point, so yeah, i'm sick and tired of the poor Juliette victim nonsense

This and I'm sick of the writers having to make the heroes so incompetent that Juliette keeps walking all over them.

It's so inconsistently put together and this is what it's been like in a matter of a few episodes.

Yup, "I want revenge on Adalind, so I'll blame everything on Nick, join up with some Royals that I don't know, destroy Nick's trailer, attack the people trying to help me, sell them all out, set Kelly up, and go along with whatever the Royals want for some reason". "I can't help it", "I like this power", has flashbacks/trying to be remorseful, then goes along with whatever the Royals' plan to kill Kelly and then taking Diana.

Exactly, which would make it even more ridiculous for a forced redemption ebcause the writers themselves didn't set one up. They deliberately had her get worse and worse, she turned everyone else against her.

Ikr, at least Constantine was actually doing his thing, here, we get stuck with these nonsensical storylines and destroying things like the trailer and killing off characters like Kelly for this bs.

That's the worst part if they try to force a redemption on her, she showed no inner struggle or at least trying to resist. We just see her blankly going along with the Royals, selling out Nick and the others, destroying the trailer, getting the neighbors killed off, and setting up Kelly to her fate. Exactly, the motivation has been piss poor and very inconsistent. All this has accomplished is destroying important plot points like the trailer and killing Kelly off all for the sake of a terrible storyline, which only pissed off more people to Juliette's character than before. It's too late for anything logical, not that there was much of one, but it's gotten worse than ever before.

Exactly, they will have cornered themselves no matter what they did and the forced redemption would make it worse considering that had to destroy the trailer and kill Kelly off to push this awful storyline, it's also what makes this worse than the other bad storylines we've had in this series.

I think this is another example of what sets Juliette apart from the other characters that are redeemed. We actually see Renard disoriented when he wakes up in random places, we actually see him getting taken over by Jack the Ripper, we see him getting phantom wounds, etc. With Juliette, we're told that this isn't her or that she's can't control it and then we're also told straight up that she likes her power. We're shown flashback that are supposed to show remorse and then we also have Juliette going along with everything with no hesitation taking Diana while Kelly is attacked and beheaded off screen. There's a major disconnect with her character's action and motivation with what the writers want to portray.

Arrow was already dark and angsty from the very start, I dropped it this season because it just became unwatchable for me this season. As for Grimm, darkness was never the problem, my biggest problem stems from the writers' inability to handle story/myth arcs: the Royals, the keys/coins, Juliette/Adalind's drama, etc. The trailer before it was destroyed, had a lot of potential for interesting Grimm/wesen mythology and they completely squandered that.

It's supposed to be an anthology and this storyline would be wrapped up by the finale, so yes, it should be a different story/characters.

The Following only 'works' (and I use that loosely) when it's an over the top train wreck, but this season tried to take itself way too seriously and it just became yet another boring crime drama with even less Joe screen time so it feels less like The Following and more like just another serial killer procedural.

The 100 started off clunky before finding its footing, but it had way more potential and had more interesting characters than this. The Messengers' problem stems from it being just a bunch of contrived walking plot points (cliched science character, cliched religious character, etc.) following around exposition Angel. The show also made the huge mistake at the start at not getting us situated with the characters and just dumped in a scene after just introducing them. The dialogue is just them spouting off exposition at each other and that's never a good thing when a movie or show tries to do that.

Even if they try to force a redemption on her, it wouldn't be believeable, her transformation to a villain has been poorly constructed based on character stupidity allowing her to get away with it and poor character motivation on Juliette's character as a whole.

Yup, it's been a waste of time. He actually served more of a purpose dead than alive. It is ending, so even if they try to shoehorn in anymore pointless fakeouts, it will already be over.

Exactly, they managed to make an arc worse than that complete waste of time/misfire by giving more focus on the weakest aspects of the series.

That's because they are. Kenneth is an interchangeable generic baddie, who can easily be replaced by the next Royals stand in because the writers have done nothing substantial with them. As for Juliette, the writing is just awful, worse than the previous horrible storylines. Her sudden descent to villainy was just poorly constructed all around, all that managed to do was piss off more people than before and she was already hated to begin with.

Viewers are already struggling with this storyline, if they try to do anything else, they'll make it even worse than it already is.

Ratings wise, this show is already struggling so I wouldn't be surprised if they did since I'm already almost there depending on the finale and what they're trying to do.