Jenesis

This episode was better than last episode, I’ll give it that. I was really rooting for Halores until she killed Hector (RIP). Now, I’m on Team Bernard he gets on my nerves. But, something is up. Why was Charlotte wearing the same outfit from the first board meeting in episode 3? (Badass faux cape) How did Bernard get to William’s location? (Personally, I think he’s another Dolores hybrid)

Very quick comment right now. Am I going crazy? Why does Dany and everyone act like her helping against the NK is some favor? If she wants people to bow, she needs to protect them.

All I want is for all the North and all of Westeros to know that Arya killed the Night King. People made fun of her fierceness as a child and she ended up being the fiercest of them all. Not the biggest or strongest, but the fiercest. I want Pod singing songs of her victory and old fables being written about her.

I think Stubbs is a host. He was speaking in 'code' about having a core drive. Through the mesh network, he found out that Hale was now a host. I have to process the finale and watch it again. Some stuff I liked and some things were confusing, and I'm pretty good at following plots and explanations. Bye Sizemore, glad we finally got to hear that speech. Can't wait for host Sizemore. I don't believe Tessa Thompson will be playing Dolores now. They reprinted her body. The probably have another host mind in there.

Where were all the guests in ShogunWorld? They could have shown at least one. I know we saw a dead security guard which Sizemore was able to get a communicator off of.

I actually liked this episode. I mean, I still have a ton of questions but I did like the new additions of Akane, the Ronin and the other Dragon lady. When I heard Lee talking about Shogun World being for people who found WestWorld too tame, I wondered why William spend 30 years dicking around in WW (killing poor Lawrence). Go to SW if you're so badass, MIB. I don't know what Dolores will do. I have no idea what she wants, but she's coming across as a hypocrite. Hosts don't have the freedom to live how they feel they should live under her reign. Maeve actually has cheat coder skills and will still give hosts the choice to be free or not. I'm still invested in her story, Not just to get her daughter, but the people she encounters along the way. Highlight, Akane pez-dispencing that General's head and Teddy's bubblebutt.

I think this will just be another way of showing Barry that you can't mess with time the way he has been doing. Not everything will wrap up neatly like it did with Hartley switching sides. Hopefully, he'll finally see that the way things play out is for a reason and the only time it's ok is when he accidentally time travels. I can't see the show runners totally changing everything. We are too deeply invested in the way the characters are now. Hell, I frowned when the Barry from the Season 1 finale disappeared when current Barry saved Nora. The only pone who'll change is Wells. We might get happy and in-love-with-Tess Wells and his daughter, Jesse.

We all know Barry is....let's say, a brilliant guy that's not smart. But, I'm looking forward to the stories that will come about this change. Iris was pretty OOC tonight. She was calmly letting her dad stay on Earth-2. Damn, Caitlyn is a worse actress than Danielle Panabaker. Ugh on the second WestAllen kiss to be wiped out of existence.

Two points right off the bat: - They really went ahead and gave Zoom Barry's speed? After I got Wally back, I would have been like "Well, here's a speed bullet in the forehead, Jay!" Stupid Team Flash! - Reverse Flash is Faster than Zoom? Jay/Hunter said doing a speed mirage was beyond him, but Thawne did it more than once. But Thawne couldn't get up enough Speed Force to time travel, which Barry can do and Barry's slower than Zoom. I can't keep up. The Speed Force has no rules!

I still believe MiTM is Wally. They had a little face to iron-face moment last episode. Now the question is, which Wally was returned to Team Flash?

With their clothes and the lake in the background, it looks like they go back to that day Barry erased from existence, when Cisco died and Iris chose Barry.

While I loved the whole WestAllen-ness of the Earth-2 episode, I'm still waiting some acknowledgement of season 1 WestAllen and the fact that Barry loved Iris for most of his childhood and all his adult life. I want Barry to say that what Earth-2 has with Iris was what he dreamed about in the past or something along those lines.

Another little easter egg, E2 Barry's news interview was on channel '52'. I see you, show.

Very nitpicky, but this was a very dangerous mission. Why wasn't Iris at Star Labs when the gang world jumped? I want E1 Iris part of the action.

Why wasn't Deathstorm's power always on? I thought that's what happened when him and Martin merged?

We had a totally forgettable villain in the Geomancer. And he spoke very Snart-esque.

Barry bought his parent's a trip to Atlantis.

I absolutely loved this episode. First off, we got quite a bit of every main character in the story. We have the thrill of the characters acting against their norms. We got angst with E2Nora and Joe-called me-Joseph. We got Cisco playing his own straight man in his exchange with Reverb. Loved Reverb. It was a good idea to expand Iris' role. She adds a lot and Candace Patton is great. Mayor Snart and Supergirl made me lol. E1 Barry kind f-ed up E2 though. I actually think it's Wally West. Then all his captives are Speedsters and maybe E2 Wally is meta.

I'm no TV writer, but even I know that if they would have just waited until the Earth-2 episode to air and showed Barry a world where him and Iris are together, he'd have a better understanding of what (and who) he really wants. That would have been a compelling story to tell and Patty's character would have had a friggen point. Iris of Earth- 2 probably gets killed by Zoom in front of Earth -1 Barry and the ships starts sailing again.

I see what you mean. I would have like that too.

But you know, unlike Joe and Barry who looked her in the face and lied for months, Iris couldn't do that to someone she loves. Iris had to find out on her own on a cold bridge after Eddie was abducted, but Joe got his news broken gently by his two kids. Big difference between Joe and Iris.

I don't find that to be true. Iris deals in information. She not only researches, she talks to the everyday people and would be able to assemble pieces of a puzzle with the rest of Team Flash using what she uncovers. When Caitlyn wanted to find out about Ronnie AKA Burning Man, she used Iris' research. And she was just a blogger then. With CCPN behind her, she has access to all sorts of useful facts. Non-scientific facts that can help out. But TPTB doesn't want to show that, for some reason.

One lousy line this week. I don't get why they cast Iris West if they really don't like her or any story she might be part of. Candice is beautiful and a good actress. Iris has a pretty good following and WestAllen is the most popular pairing for the show. So.... what is the deal? Someone needs to call out the writers. I mean, when they start sprouting "Oh yea, we have something big planned for Iris" some needs to call out "Bullshit, you always say that. Anything she could be doing, you give it to another character."

Wasn't looking forward to the crossover. Still think it was a bad idea, to continue lose the momentum of the ongoing plot Flash has going this season, but whatever. I'll just talk about the episode. I really liked Caitlyn and Harrison putting their heads together, making up when the other is lacking. Jay was getting on my nerves earlier in the episode. I was thinking "Why the devil are you still here is you're not going to help with n-e-thang??" But he came through and help with Gun-shot victim Harry. Leading into....Patty...Can you leave now. Tired of the relationship propping from everyone.I didn't see all her scenes (honestly, I start zoning out) but geez, gal, busting into Star Labs and shooting folk? Who are you, Joe West? No story or role for Iris. What a shock. Unhappy about that. Thea does not play. Period. How many people are they just going to un-mask for? This is ridiculous. But Iris couldn't know for almost a year and had to find out her damn self. The CGI for the Hawks were better than I thought they would me. I'll watch Arrow (which I never do) to find out what VS is about and how the Hawk story plays out. Poor Cisco, he'll be back on Tinder by next week.

I have to say, after last week, I wasn't really feeling this episode. Well, I should say that the episode wasn't bad really, but I want to know more about Zoom and Earth-2. This just was dragging the storyline. And now next week, we have a stupid Crossover. I liked Caitlyn this episode She knew what would help the team and set out to make it happen. Yes, she got kidnapped and had to be the damsel in distress, but in the end, she saved the day. And she got everyone on the same page. Good going Dr. Snow. Speaking of the ladies getting it done. Iris shows she is really aware of Barry's needs (when he shows them). "You want to be all mopey Barry? I'm telling your father!" Too bad no one does that for you. And the son reveal won't go good for Iris either. They (the characters and the fandoms) forgive Barry and Joe for lying about everything (Flash, Mason Bridge, Mom) but she will get more hate and silent treatments from Joe. Why is Henry Allen doing father/son things by himself? You can do that with Barry, y know. Fast forwarded half Patty parts. I don't care. I tried to watch them, but I can't make it through. Cisco hoping to score. Won't happen if you keep running out on the girl. I like Grodd as a villain. I hope he returns.