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I'm sure there will be other medevac rumors. Given what we know about the conditions, I would probably be somewhat inclined to believe those. I'm guessing if anyone does get medevaced, it'll probably come much later in the game. God, I remember back during Outback, when the previews showed someone being removed from the game there was all sorts of speculation running rampant. The best one had to be someone claiming Alicia was first eaten by a crocodile, then just attacked by one. I don't recall anyone coming up with the real truth, Mike falling in the fire. Made me realize why Survivor essentially has you sign your life away and says your family can't sue even if you die during the course of the game. I just never saw the point in fake spoilers. There are plenty of people who want the real thing, so why ruin it for them (and also, for the people who actually are legit but no one believes them because of all the fakery going on). If Terry did end up quitting, I wonder if they will be able to keep that under wraps, especially if his son is very ill.

That's too bad. I would seriously hope no one would make something up so serious, but there's definitely people out there that would. I don't really get the point of putting fake spoilers out there regardless. What does anyone get from that?

I know there were photos of the press wearing aqua and orange buffs, which led to speculation that those were the official tribe colors-but others pointed out they were probably buffs from another season. I don't go on reddit, and I haven't seen a lot of good spoilers on sucks yet, besides the Vytas one (which I saw here first anyway). If-and it's a big if-those are the tribes, I'm actually curious what possessed them vote out Vytas over someone like Keith or Monica. The other side has a bigger advantage, physically, with Jeremy, Spencer, Woo, the 2 Kelly's, and Savage. I also wonder if Stephen fell victim to a tribe swap. I assumed that they might divide tribes up so people from the same season were on opposing sides, if they could help it. I figured they'd probably split Tasha and Spencer up between the 4 Cagayan people. Very curious for more to come out! True or not at least it's something discuss in the off season. I fully expect to see a lot more spoilers once filming is done. Spencer may have really lucked out if he wound up on a tribe that goes on a winning streak. Hopefully it's not a boring Pagonging season like WA. ETA: @chocolatechip45, I thought they would put Kass and Spencer together simply because they were such adversaries. But maybe they were afraid Kass could topple Spencer early on if they were together. Her boot is the only one I could fully believe without anything concrete, so maybe it wouldn't have mattered. If Spencer doesn't go before the merge, either he takes the whole thing or gets blindsided. I'm still thinking the ladies are going to underestimate and end up dominating in the end. Maybe we will get the Black Widow Brigade 2.0 finally.

I haven't seen any spoilers about tribe divisions. Would love to know! If it's true Terry is on the losing end again, I would find that hysterical. I also figure there was a tribe switch in there, most likely. When was the last time that didn't happen? Last season it happened after Lindsey was booted, and Max went 5th. With 20 contestants I could see them shaking it up more quickly, especially if they merge at 12. TDT calendar is likely just guessing, unless they get insider information. Double boots might factor in, too.

Going by True Dork Times calendar (which I know they are guesstimating on), the 5th boot would have gone last night (Friday for Cambodia, it's early Saturday morning there now) and they don't have the 6th boot going until June 15th. If they're following the 3 day cycle for most of the boots, that would probably work out. I don't know how exactly you know this stuff, or if you're yanking out chains, but I hope you are right. I could live with this boot order. At any rate, I'll take what I can get now. I don't know if I should be surprised or terrified that Keith might actually still be in the game.

Eh, not surprised if that's true. I figured he'd be a target early on, and won't be surprised to see Spencer and Joe's names pop up. They must be getting close to merging, if they merge at 12, so they may want to get the threats out . I have to say, though, that I hope there is some good, strategic game play going on behind these boots, and not just a bunch of followers and goats. If there really was a power alliance of Stephen, Spencer, Monica, Ciera, Vytas, and Kelley, that's down to half now. I do like Stephen, so I am disappointed if he's out this early. I am hoping that this boot list is true, because so far I haven't lose too many people I cared about. The first 3 gone were people that I either didn't vote for, or voted for more because I had to pick 10. I will say I'm hoping that almost all of the pre-China people might still be in it, except for Kimmi.

I'm almost tempted to listen. Dan is like one of those d-list horror movies from the 80s. The worst thing you could ever watch, yet bad enough that it's actually entertaining. Seeing Dan continue to dwell and dig his own hole is amusing. Well, he wanted to be remembered. Hopefully he enjoys watching Joe and Shirin this season, and future AS seasons when Mike and Carolyn are likely brought back. Intentionally playing a villain to get an invite back isn't always going to work, especially when you end up dissing the show and host. I'd be really surprised to ever see Dan return, unless it's a Survivor: Biggest Goats edition.

I could believe it. Not sure where they are coming from, but glad to have something. Aside from Kimmi, I do hope the other 3 are right. Kimmi seemed like someone going in very naïve, and I felt either she would essentially be someone's goat in their alliance for her vote, or she'd end up getting booted early because she was too unpredictable and wishy washy. I will be disappointed for her, as I'm sure this is the last time Kimmi will return (unless they do a pre-merge season and bring back players that have already returned). I have a feeling, though, that Kimmi may not take an early exit as hard as some of the others. Ultimately, I just want Joe, Jeff, Stephen, Kelly Wigles, Spencer, Tasha, Andrew, Peih Gee, and Jeremy to last into the merge and any of them make up the final 3 (preferably Joe, Peih-Gee, and any of the others). I really hope this season isn't one where votes are cast for revenge and nothing else. However, there are a lot of game players this season who seem too smart to vote someone off for that reason, unless there was a more strategic reason behind it. If Jeff sent Kimmi packing, there was probably a good reason other than she let it slip before he had previous votes against him (considering Jeff jumped his perch during Outback for peanut butter, he really only has himself to blame for his elimination. Keith had previous votes and hung on). I don't like Shirin, though if she tones down the antics and there isn't any drama, I'll be fine with her staying. I hope she does show she's got game. The only consolation to her lasting long is just what you said, it'll probably burn Dan and Will a little. As of a couple weeks ago, Dan was still getting digs in at Probst on his twitter.

Not surprised, either, if there's any truth to it. She was someone I had pegged to go pre-merge again. So far Kimmi's the only one who didn't beat her old placement (assuming this is all true). Hope this isn't the turning tide for the old schoolers to go. Still waiting for more confirmation to believe this list, though I could believe the Vytas and Kass boots. Also would love to know the tribes, as that might be telling as whether this list has any truth to it. Pre-made alliances I'd like to know just to see how fast they fell apart. Really hoping to see Shirin, Terry, Woo, and Keith be the next 4 to show up on that list. I have a feeling I'm going to be stuck with those 4 in the long haul.

I think once upon a time there might have been that rule. In talking about AS I remember when Rob approached Lex, there seemed to be some outcry online that he shouldn't have been allowed to interact with him at all. I thought I remembered Jeff even breaking the two up. I don't know about the rule now or how relaxed it is. Anymore I think this show makes itself up as it goes along. If they think it'll make for great TV-fantastic! If not, they step in. JTs move is definitely the former. Why he would chose to give it to Russell was beyond me, but the only thing I thought at the time was because Russell's season hadn't aired, and he was new to the Survivor family, maybe they assumed he had no pre-game allies. In regards to JT, I remember him being a good ol'country boy. But that season and game belonged to Stephen for me. I didn't notice it on the first viewing, but in re-watching, Stephen's game play was very underrated and I believe JT has him to thank for the million.

Lex was an idiot that I don't think he needed to be asked by Rob to keep Amber safe. The way his game was going he probably would have kept her around regardless. And yes, I'm sure pre-game alliances had something to do with the loyalty with or without Rob asking. It's been a very long time since I've watched AS or the reunion, but did anything ever get brought up about pre-game alliances by Jeff? I remember Rob calling Lex out for having deals with other people, and he didn't feel he could trust him completely. But it's been awhile, so my memory might be fuzzy. Lex screwed himself, but I think Rob played way too hard. Still deserved the win, though.

I would have to agree with this. While I would have given the win to Parvati, who I think played a better game overall and really had an uphill battle, you have to be doing something right to be able to win this game twice. I could say it was luck one time, but twice? Especially with Sandra being as outspoken as she is. Someone like Amber won thanks to Rob, but since they got married, essentially the jury still gave a win to Rob anyway. I couldn't see Amber being successful in this game without having someone's coattails to ride. Though it's been many years, so maybe she'd end up proving me wrong. Hopefully I never find out. On the heroes side of the tribes, I thought it was a pretty weak group and loosely defined with some of their casting choices (though what else is new in the returnee seasons), so I'm glad the villains triumphed in the end.

Oh, I like Philippines, too! Everything after HvsV kind of blurs together for me, so I think I forget that season falls in there. It is one of the more recent seasons I can get behind. S25, 27, and 28 were the only bright spots after HvsV (so yes, there are a few worth checking out after that one). Survivor started going downhill after Micronesia, for me anyway, with Tocantins and those 4 in the 20s being an exception. In the early years, you could get one bad season of Survivor but typically the ones that followed and preceded it made up for how lackluster a season like Thailand could be. Not so much anymore. It's why I have such high hopes for Second Chances. In regards to Guatemala, I think it had a great and entertaining cast, but unfortunately it was overshadowed by the return of Stephenie and Bobby Jon (mainly Stephenie). I would have liked to see how that season would have turned out had those two not been part of it. Overall, it had a lot of great moments, though it reminded me a bit of this past season, where you hoped that something was going to go a certain way based on editing but it ended up not happening. A lot of the better people were lost pre-merge in that season as well. It's probably one of my favorite land locked locations, and despite the cast nearly killing themselves trying to get to camp, I enjoy those added elements, especially in the opening. Paddling to shore, trekking through the outback, jungle, or desert. They make it so easy now. I feel like people making it to day 39 nowadays look so much better than people who made it to day 15 back in the day.

Aw, I liked Guatemala (though apparently I'm one of few, I think even TPTB aren't crazy about that season lol) I would agree about skipping Thailand and Vanuatu, along with Caramoan (unless you like meltdowns), Palau, Panama, Fiji, and anything after HvsV, minus Cagayan. My Survivor must-watches for any newbie are Borneo (to see where it all started, and to see just how different the game became after the fact), Marquesas, Amazon, Pearl Islands, Cook Islands, Micronesia, HvsV, and Cagayan. I'm not really a fan of Outback, but considering it was still so new to everyone, and nearly half the cast has returned at least once, I think it's a good one to catch up on. Those are some of the best in regards to game changers, personalities, and strategies. My other personal favorites are China, Guatemala, Africa, and Tocantins, along with BvsW and Philippines.

I saw the kerfluffle over Redmond's post. He was saying he knew spoilers (what exactly they were I don't know, it might have just been tribes) but he didn't want to give it away until it was officially revealed. However, he said he knew the knowledge and wanted to prove it so was asking for ideas how to show that he knew this stuff before it was officially revealed. From what I understood, Redmond never reveals game spoilers, only cast. I won't be surprised if we get at least the pre-jury boots. Survivor Fever did really well predicting that half of the season last year, so I assumed they got it from somewhere (only one they missed was Max and had Joaquin and Kelly off by a week). Also, if they do family visits, it might be telling who makes it to that point. Keeping fingers crossed for some news! If those 3 were in fact the first 3 to go then I hope the old schoolers are kicking ass out there.

I had heard that this area is very much a tourist spot and that they were hoping to increase their tourism there by having Survivor film. I'm curious where the pre-jury Survivors will be taking their trip once they have to vacate Ponderosa. That is likely when we will get spoilers, if they are out with tourists. Although given the interest of this season, and it obviously being easier to spot previous contestants, they may put a tighter lid on that. Jeff mentioned that, because filming was delayed for a few days, the contestants were taken to some of the historical sites around the area to give them something to do. Vytas totally seems like the kind of person that would pull something like that. While I still believe we will get spoilers this season (for my sanity I'm hoping so anyway), it'll probably be closer to the premiere or when it actually starts airing that I will believe it. I'm not big on SM, but truthfully, I don't think I'd trust any of my loved ones back home to mess with my stuff, even if it was to throw fans off. Who knows what they would do when I was gone!

I don't know if its accurate or not, but it is a boot order I could believe. Even though everyone likely has a pre-game alliance, if someone caught wind of the Spencer/Vytas/Ciera/Kelley/Stephen/Monica six, they might have wanted to break that up if it appeared that was a strong six and the main alliance they were sticking with. Assuming those 6 had an alliance and Shane wasn't yanking our chain. Spencer and Stephen will likely be deemed bigger threats than Vytas and Ciera. Since they could likely fit into another alliance easier than Spencer and Stephen, I can see why those 2 might have been targeted early on. Assuming that is accurate, however, I will be curious what the tribal dynamic was and what happened. Are you here yet, September? I can totally believe that Kass was a first boot, and one of the reasons I'm disappointed she was back so soon. Kass is one of those people that I felt would get targeted early on, wouldn't live up to her past performance and totally disappoint, and waste a space someone else could have had that might have been able to actually play the game. It's a reason I was iffy seeing so many recent returnees in the mix for voting. Sometimes people need time to be forgotten. That is, of course, assuming Kass is an early boot. For all I know, she's still thriving in the game and makes it to the end again! I never paid much attention to contestants SM when they were off filming an AS season. I didn't think there was much point, but now I'm tempted! I figured they kept a tighter leash on those things.

So glad they are doing a 90 minute premiere. Sometimes (depending how well the season is going) I wish they could do more 90 minute episodes throughout the season. I will say some of these Survivors haven't learned the meaning of the word 'aging'. Some of the old schoolers look better 10+ years than some of the newbies, imo.

I always thought Stephenie was bitter and disappointed by her time on HvsV. After Palau, she was America's Sweetheart and a huge fan favorite that got the first return visit outside of an AS season. It went downhill from Guatemala, and I was surprised to see her turn up on HvsV. And then she bombed out there. Given the track record of tribes she was on, maybe James was right that the issue with losing was her.

I wonder if someone did that to throw people off-if a loved one has access to his account. I didn't think they even had access to SM until they got back home. If those are the first 3 boots, I'd be happy about that. And not too surprised. Kass is too unpredictable, I don't remember much of what Vytas did in the game, and frankly I find Ciera overrated. Granted, I did vote for both of them and don't dislike them. But I can't say I'd be sad if they left early. I'll be curious if that is in fact true and what led up to their elimination. Weren't they in that alliance with Stephen, Monica, Spencer, and Kelley? Funny thing is, I had a few Survivor related dreams (don't judge) about this season, and in one of them Kass and Shirin were two of the first to go. Then in another one, Kass went first but Shirin went far. RE: the boot order. In the last few seasons, it doesn't seem like people are voted off in cycles of 3 days. I don't know if that has to do with having a final 3 or not. But looking at the order of this season, after day 6, Nina was booted day 8, during SJDS some contestants were booted 2 days after the previous TC. So I guess it depends what order they follows.

Jeff did a live interview with Dalton Ross today. Some highlights: -filming actually started 5/31, not 6/1 (so we've had four people voted off so far-down to 16) -CBS was extremely happy with how the vote went and with the fan response. We will be seeing it again. Jeff thinks it went well because of the old schoolers involved. He thinks they need the right circumstances for it to go over as well again. -sounds like they might be doing a marooning with boats to open (he mentioned it being a throwback to the first season). I actually liked when the contestants are tossed overboard and have to row/swim to their respective beaches, trying to hang onto whatever they were able to grab to help make camp life a tad easier. It feels more survival-like. http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/08/survivor-second-chance-jeff-probst-promises-chaos-and-scrambling We know we will see repeat challenges, but I wouldn't be surprised if they use challenges specifically from the seasons represented, as well as other twists and elements used on those respective seasons. He mentions that the WA apart class was annoyed at having the second half of their reunion taken up by the 2nd chance reveal (really, the last half of their seasons was hijacked by this). I'm still sticking with the theory that CBS wanted something positive to overshadow this season. Premiere is September 23rd (90 minutes), followed by the Big Brother finale (also 90 minutes).

Woo has one up now, too. Shirin I'm already ready to see gone and I hope to god she is. I'm really disappointed she is back so soon. If she's still geeking out I hope that means she'll get on the last nerve of everyone there and, friendships/pre-game alliances aside, gets booted early. Someone could make the argument that a person who knows that much about Survivor would be a threat. Yes, these are all returning players, but I feel like Shirin probably knows stuff about their game that they probably forgot about. I could see Joe being an early exit. He is one that I truthfully wouldn't be surprised to see gone first. Spencer would probably make it past the first boot, but I still see him as a possible early exit as well. I know going first on this show is the nightmare of anyone, but these returnee seasons they seem to take it a lot harder. I don't know what and why Kelly did that to herself.

That is exactly why I love Penner.

Woo strikes me as the type that will probably try to redeem himself from the first time. But I don't think he could pull off mean. He continues to take a lot of heat for being a nice guy who made a dumb move that seemed obvious to everyone but him (I don't care what he says to justify it, I believe he was doing damage control over taking Tony to the end). So he'll show why he deserves this second chance, that he knows how to play the game, and that he wasn't some goat of his own doing by taking Tony over Kass to the final 2. Whether Woo succeeds in attempting to repair his image and show he's got strategy is another story. My guess is he'll fail. He just doesn't strike me as the type that could carry this game or form an alliance and be pulling the strings. He was a nice guy. I could see him going far this time, more so due possibly being a physical asset to his tribe and being in an alliance with numbers. I suspect he'll be on the bottom of those numbers, however. However, I could also see a pre-merge boot where he's trying hard to be a puppet master but getting blindsided early on. So if Survivor is filming on schedule, two people have already been voted off and the third boot is coming up today. Time's already flying! Wonder how it is going for everyone, and for the first two boots. If it was someone like Spencer or Joe or Andrew, that would have to be extremely rough. If it was Kass, she probably saw it coming.

I could believe it. If the conditions are truly that bad, I expect to see medevacs (at least one) for each season filmed there. I could care less about losing Caleb, though I do hate to see people taken out of the game for that reason. I wonder if they will do an additional boot that episode, and have a final 2 instead of a final 3. This new cast doesn't really appeal to me in pictures, so I hope it's a good group. It seems like a bargain version of the original B/B/B.