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The hand is back!

I wouldn't be surprised. A few days ago writer Kate Hall posted her November breakdown (not a script but storyline plots to turn into a script) and it clearly listed that Jack and Phyllis (and Ashley) are still all working together at Jabot. And we saw pictures that Billy is still at Brash & Sassy a month from now. So I think that prediction isn't far off. I think Phack doing all this therapy right before the reveal will make Jack more understanding to Phyllis' mind set. She was consumed by Marco. She looked at him and saw the man who raped her and that conflicted her because she also understands that Jack was a victim too. That is what the spoiler above basically says. That is a way for Phack to heal. Her fucking Billy is bad but Jack can understand her POV. Billy? Not so much. I think Billy will start doing what he does best and self destruct and Jill and Victoria (maybe a side of Cane) will all have to save him from himself. I can see that causing issues with Victoria and Travis down the road if she is getting wrapped up in Billy's shit again. We have seen that Travis is territorial about Victoria so I don't see him going down without a fight. Pratt sort of hinted this reveal will shift things. I am sure Philly will still be drawn together but I think a lot more will be happening as well. It is also clear the Abbotts will loathe Phyllis. Ashley and Abby are already over her crap and they don't know the half of it.

Adam lost his mind after a week in jail? I have always thought of him as a joke but this takes the cake. He has done a lot of horrible things over the years. He talks a lot of smack but when he finally faces reality he caves. I would feel bad that he is being set up but then I remember how he was a menace for YEARS. I don't get why Victor so obsessed with Adam. Victor was chilling for months. Nick was actually beat up by inmates and was good. Victoria got herself arrested so Nick wouldn't be framed (by Adam, no less). Man up Hair Gel. Phyllis is right. Billy can't deal with the fact Victoria is falling for someone else. All that fake support he had for Victoria happened because Travis was already out the picture. Now that Phyllis has other more important shit to deal with besides dropping her panties for Billy, she is seeing what a brat he is. I think she will soon realize how this affair was not worth the shit storm about to come her way. Billy finally showing guilt. Whatever. Too little, too late. Chelsea can not be this dumb with Chloe. Yet she is. Also Chloe now letting Kevin fawn all over her because she wants Bella to have a family. Kevin so desperate to play daddy. I just want Mariah free from that mess. I really hope Chance Chancellor is paired with her.

That fantasy was so damn cheesy. I mean seriously? Can Summer leave already? Victor and Victoria's relationship creeps me out at times. That shit was like a couple breaking up. Cane and Lily's kids are adorable. I also think Cane will start to figure out the Philly affair. Jill is a obsessed with Villy but I loved her speech about making Chancellor destroy Jabot and NE! Here for it!

For the past two days the show's official twitter was posting these cute behind the scene videos of various cast members ignoring Josh Morrow as a promotion for him visiting "The Talk" yesterday. His video with Missy Egan accidentally revealed via the filming monitor that Adam is still in jail well into mid August. I think fans brought attention to that detail and they removed the video. So is this how Justin Hartley will go away to film his prime time show? Adam will be in town but just off screen in jail when the time comes? He does something is put in isolation or something therefore no visitors? Then we he does emerge it is a new face or JH can pop in here and there and do a cameo?

I think he was just trying to avoid the Philly vs Villy conversation. I did find it interesting he did say that "Victoria and the kids" were his family but this thing with Phyllis was about him being able to be himself. He also didn't make it sound like he filmed a lot with EH. I wonder how long the paternity issue will drag out. So did anyone else notice how active Angelica McDaniel and Mal Young have been with fans in the past few days? They both basically confirmed Travis is coming back, old sets like the Newman Ranch will be returning soon as well. Angelica is all about Mal. His name also comes before Pratt. I do think Pratt is a goner. They not even hiding it.

I think Jack, Ashley, and Jill will figure it out. Phyllis has no idea Jack suspects so she will slip up again. As pointed up upthread, Ashley has walked in on Billy one too many times. The fallout won't be the affair. I think with everything that has happened, he could forgive that. It will be the fact it was BILLY that will cause the chaos in the family.

It seems like JFP fired him but Mal rehired him. Since they film a month out, I would guess that Travis will turn back up mid August. Since his bar is gone that means he will go back to the corporate world and then we will start learning more of his background. This is probably a good thing in the end of the character. It is like starting fresh. It is interesting though that Mal felt the need to make it known Travis was coming back. The actor/character seemed to be pretty well liked so I think he didn't want that negativity thrown at him and people thinking his first move as EP was to ax him. I guess while Travis is away these next few weeks that Victoria and Billy will get closer again. This will drive Phyllis nuts and then Travis returns and we get some Jack/Phyllis/Billy/Victoria/Travis fucker with a side of Bethany.

I wonder if Victoria will be the one to go to Jill and ask if she can join her at Chancellor Industries as like COO or something. The two women can run that business together (and then CI can be on screen when Jill is gone) but then Jill could exploit this and have her oversee Brash & Sassy forcing Villy to interact. That is my speculation. It just seemed that Victoria snapped back to reality about her father. Jill and Travis both reminded her but she was in Nikki's delusional cloud for a moment. After that talk where he basically told her she lacked experience, she knew same old shit was going to happen. Victoria didn't even look upset. She almost looked relieved to be away from the bullshit. Phyllis not telling Jack is not a surprise. No one thought she would. She did what many suspected she would do -- tell Jack she needed space. Now she is away from her husband and free to work that hotel bed over with Billy. Except maybe not. I think Billy is fed up with everyone at this point. Today seemed liked he needed his kids to relax him and then we had two Villy family scenes. The new little Katie is super cute. Travis is gone. He clearly will be back at some point but I think its safe to say he is gone for a few weeks. So now we will get Villy back on more friendly terms which I am sure will make Phyllis extra jealous. Also Bethany the waitress is also coming back as the actress filmed yesterday. My guess this is the start of the affair coming out. So depending on where everyone is this can have even bigger blow back. I will say that for the first time I really felt Phyllis was torn. This episode felt a bit different even if it still was the same old shit.

She probably ends it with both men. You know. Self sacrifice and all. She will save the family but deny herself. Bethany returns soon so Billy probably banging her again.

Daniel has never met Mariah. That will be good for so many reasons. Her one interaction with Lily was pretty good too. Jill article from TV Guide. http://www.tvinsider.com/article/92774/jess-walton-returns-to-the-young-and-the-restless-ready-to-play-cupid/

No doubt this is how he is released. He saves Nikki and Phyllis (his victim) and now Phyllis has to thank his evil ass. I would care except I hate her right now so whatever. That is what this show has come too. I also expect this to be a reality check for Phyllis and she probably decides to stay in her marriage. In the article they really emphasized that Phyllis is just excited by Billy. They said it like 3 times. It is a thrill thing. I think having her life threatened will either make her go back to Jack and work on her marriage (though now Hilary is zeroed in on Jack) or she will run to Billy. One of the other.

The article says Victor saves them. Or it implies it anyways.

I doubt it was a reference to Y&R but funny nonetheless.

Phyllis acted like it was a chore to be with Jack on his birthday. Hilary was more into it which is just sad. Billy was playing daddy (no doubt to balance out the douchebagness) while basically forbidding Phyllis to spend time with her husband, ya know, his brother. Ashley once again pointed out (to Phyllis) how this mystery girl is basically pathetic and being used by Billy. Then Billy gets offended that Victoria accuses him of trying to sabotage her like he has never done it before (Paragon, Passkey, Brash and Sassy) and starts hurling insult about her sex life with Travis. Okay. Poor Jack.

I don't think Jack learns. I think it will be another close call though.

Jack's face is hilarious! Billy needs to sit down. He goes to the bar to start crap with Travis and then turns around and bangs Phyllis? Okay.

I think this is a red herring as well. They had Kevin say that she looked like Chloe not that long ago and then Natalie was complaining about it. My guess is that Kevin saw that Natalie had hacked into the Newman database (when she helped Billy) and probably some footage will pop up and all signs will point to her. I mean maybe she helped Luca but I don't think she is the one framing Adam. I think that is all Chloe.

I think it is hard to say what will happen especially since Summer will likely be off screen a lot come this fall. I don't predict that Victor will be back at NE anytime soon. Eventually, sure, but I am sure that too will drag out considering all he has done since then and they all know it. Who would vote him in. The damage has to be repaired. Phack and Villy will be done. Philly will be on borrowed time too because once the affair is out then so is the tawdry appeal of it. They get off on the naughty. They claim love but it is not and deep down Phyllis knows. She is seduced by the thrill but in the end she loved being part of the Abbott family more and doesn't want to risk losing it. Villy just over for now. This affair has nothing on them because they are not a couple. He didn't cheat on her but her actually truly falling for someone else will be interesting for Billy to deal with. She never loved Stitch and he was no threat. Travis I think will be. Billy has never experience Victoria truly moving on and I wonder if that will start to divide his attention as we know this affair needs more "angst". My wish is just that Jack doesn't go to the pills or anything. I rather he became the jaded Mofo we know he can be and destroy Philly. Snatch B&S. Kick Phyllis out of Jabot. I am sure Ashley would smirk as she grabbed the badge. She only tolerates Phyllis anyways. The fallout better be worth it.

Apparently he was in a bitchfit because she was not with the kids but you know damn well had the kids actually been playing in the pool with Travis.... I am glad they allowed Victoria to call him out on ditching his kids last minute. This man cancelled his plans with them to have sex with his brother's wife but he is having a meltdown because Victoria is on a date? Go away Billy.

I don't see Victoria getting a reaction that noteworthy. They are not a couple. They are divorced. She can roll her eyes but that is about as far as it should go because frankly it is none of her business. The reason I don't think Phack is destroyed is because they are emphasizing her "struggle" despite the fact she completely screwing over Jack. They will have her cry big dramatic tears and beg forgiveness. I have no doubt. Billy probably does something dumb and Phyllis will realize that Billy is the actual fuck up everyone knows him to be and she will finally remove the goggles.

I mean that and the fact Luca is obsessed with Victoria. Today he sounded like a jealous ex talking about Travis to Nick. Then you had their huge fight where I almost forgot Nick and Summer were even in the room. Then tomorrow Travis and Luca are fighting over her. It just seems obvious that Luca and Victoria will fall into bed in some way. Yes, he is scheming but there is something else to it as well. I think he is attracted to her. Literally everything out his mouth these days is about Victoria. Summer is just too stupid to put it together which you would think wouldn't be the case after Austin and Abby. History about to repeat itself.

I think they playing PHACK as potential to reunite within the year but I think VILLY are done for now. They both have clearly moved on. Even Victoria was like, "Please date someone new" in this episode. She doesn't seem to give a shit right now. The show is setting up her new triangle in Luca and Travis. That is being made very clear. They just pissy exes right now. They will drag out Philly because one it is out the story stops being about them and the focus shifts to Jack. Their story is him. Only now he has Hilary being a thot and scheming against him. So that will come into play as well in some way with Philly. Something will happen to Jack. The anvils are clear.

I said I was laugh. I had a hearty one. Billy was seething seeing Victoria and Travis. He even went as far as imply she was a bad mother because she was with her new boyfriend instead of with the kids since she was "playing hooky" from work. Victoria didn't take that well and reminded him that the kids were suppose to actually be with him but he canceled their visitation at the last minute, so if he dared to question her mothering skills he should check himself. All this in front of Travis, mind you. Of course Victoria messed up her phone again during more sexy times so she was unable to be reached (Really Pratt?). Luca called Travis (He has his number? At least Travis was like "WTF?") and talked to Victoria who rushed out to NE after realizing her phone was dead. Again all this in front of Billy. After she leaves Travis tells Billy that they need to get along but Billy basically rolled his eyes and left. Billy then walks in on Phyllis and Jack acting like a married couple and is once again a pissy little shit. Oh, btw, the show opened with Phyllis and Billy saying goodbye like it was a bad romantic comedy. Anyways. Billy listens to Phyllis BS her way through Jack's Montreal questions and then goes home to dream of Phyllis some more. Meanwhile Luca has got everyone thinking Travis could be part of the oil sabotage and now Victoria feels like she was duped. Luca goes to see Travis and in the previews the men are fighting after Luca clearly makes a crude sexual comment about Victoria. It was all a lot of crazy.