Sowkkat

Ha! It was a typo Andy Smith! But true!

Peay Koiayy is how Dorit pronounces her goddamn sweaty stubby husband's name. SHE SOUNDS LIKE GODDAMN MY FAIR LADY! They should have her say "The rain in Spain..." It's a goddamn annoying ass AFFECTATION, meaning, she's making that shit up! The purpose? She thinks her shit don't stink and wants look down at the dirt and see everyone wrestling around. She was so incredibly cloying and gleeful about that "xanax smoothie" shit. All "Oh! This is how I can start shit on the show, get noticed and align myself further up LVP's ass by attacking her enemy!" She's so OBVIOUS. She called out the panties to make herself seem better. Dorit tries to manipulate others into drawing her own conclusions about the shit she implies. The cocaine shit makes me so happy, even though I know that wacky Rinna probably just started singing an Erika Jayne song and everyone at the table slowly excused themselves.

I hate Dorit so much that in contrast I love every other bitch on that boat. I don't care how nuts Erika gets or shocked acting Kyle is or mediocre Eileen is or even how intensely wacko Rinna is. I am now very glad to believe that Dorit and her stubby, sweaty, stinky husband are both Coke whores who wash it down in smoothies on the daily.

Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm looking for a very old 48 hours mystery episode. I don't know the title of course and remember only a few details. So, a seemingly perfect husband and wife great marriage, etc...which fits the description of almost all of these episodes. She was found shot dead in the basement. He claimed it was a suicide, but the cops were convinced he did it. It turned out that she had rigged the gun to go off in the basement with a mousetrap like set up in order to not have her finger prints on it...so it was a suicide??! its all very hazy. I'd love it if I the off chance any of you bright sleuths could help!!! I know it's a long shot.

Also, I'm sooo glad I will no longer have to see Ashley's cold dead eyes and David's bloated orange face against the oppressively white walls of their wayyy too large fancy sterile house.

I downloaded the episode from iTunes the day after because I wasn't able to see it Tuesday night. I was all excited and thought that the episode I saw was part 1 and that there was more. I figured that meant a quick change of heart from Neil. I thought it was just part 1, until I read the episode postings and saw that no one knew about Sam and Neil. Sam is giving nothing away on her Twitter, even though a significant portion of viewers have probably seen the whole thing by now. It's annoying, and although I'm glad to have seen all of the decisions, I would have liked to have known it was the same show that everyone else watched. I wonder why they would do that? And yes, Sam's consistently lovey-dovey attitude towards Neil either means that he has a major change of heart by the 6 month follow-up episode, or she's more nuts than I thought. I wonder if he's skeeved out by her now. I agree that Neil chose a really really cruel way of saying he wanted a divorce by saying he's "committed...to a divorce." It's VERY Bachelor of him. The producers on that show and scriptwriters (yes, scriptwriters) have them say "Gladys, I love...our time together...there's no other woman I would rather...have messed around with in the fantasy suite. But...when I think of my life, I picture you...leaving...with me to Pittsburgh! Will you marry me?" I think Vanessa even pulled out a "but" with Tres. I don't care what Tres said, I believe that someone coached at least Neil and influenced his use of the word committed.

Ok, so IF this is true and I found this out about David soon after the wedding I would be really upset. Particularly if I were told by production that I can't get out of the contract because of this and that they don't guarantee that contestants won't have arrest records. I'd be probably more pissed, however, at production and I would half-ass it. I might ask him about it, because that's who I am, but his response wouldn't change my mind about getting involved with him. I can't take chances on domestic violence. I would probably look at at my phone a lot. Anything to avoid. But I wouldn't carry my purse around. I'd be afraid of getting hit, not robbed. Oh, and I certainly wouldn't make up a fight accusing him of cheating. 1. I wouldn't care. 2. Again, I don't want to get hit. And at the BBQ? I'd be like, "You do you hubs." I can't help but try to justify Ashley's behavior because at this point I have Stockholm Syndrome from staring at her dead eyes.

Sorry! Wrong board!

Ah! Thanks Lola16, I did read that. So did she never have a real social work job? And how do you go from bar model to social work?

Thanks for the info. ctbabe! I wonder why Ashley was fired. I'm a social worker so I'm interested what it was.

Sam. Sam, Sam, Sam. I read her twitter feed before watching the show. She seemed to justify the argument with Neil by saying that he was "name-calling." Huh? What is her version of reality? Because truly, she called what he was saying "fake,' and then he reciprocated by saying he learned it from her. He wasn't calling her fake. And maybe I need a reality check, but who here on this board that has yelled at anyone, a stranger, an acquaintance, as significant other, that they are being fake and to go f@CK themselves? Because, I don't know if I'm just extremely docile, but I never have. She is in need of some major therapy, stat.

ctbabe- "I would write the rest later." Yes, please do! I want to hear more spoilers!

ketose, I know, but I still wonder about this one, more because she chose to respond to it. We all know how stingy she is with human interaction.

Ok, I have hated Ashley. I just could not believe how cold she is, how uninterested in making it work, and just what a maddening person she is. I still think she's all of those things. But then I saw this on her Twitter feed: @Ashley_MAFS I noticed that you were actually very happy/positive the first days of your marriage. Did something happen backstage? Ashley: @cay_sid Keep watching! Ok, I wouldn't go so far as to say that she was VERY positive/happy during the wedding, but there is a big difference between her now and then. I mean, David was pretty outgoing and showy at the wedding but she still went along with it to a degree. Maybe she found out something about David that was a deal-breaker for her? For me it would be jail time (for a non-social justice related cause). Or maybe he did or said something totally out of line? Not sure, but that would explain a little of it. Thinking back about what they did to those poor season 2 girls: Ryan D.: The drug dealing abuser, Ryan (the other one) and his sleepy ass, and Sean with the evisceration that Davina got for being annoyed with him. I can't trust how they present things anymore. Maybe something stinks in stinkville with David and Ashley's getting the rough edit. Maybe she tried to get out of her contract and they said no way. I'd feel the same way and would mentally flip off the cameras if I were forced to talk to a "sexologist" about someone that I hated due to some extreme character trait or action that they took. Speculation of course. And Sam is still just a bitch.

There's a lot of negativity around Vanessa and Tres, but I just don't see it. Tres could turn out to be a womanizer with further evidence, but have we been given that evidence yet? Do we know for sure that he went to a strip club with his dad? Ok, THAT would be a deal breaker for me on a couple of levels; a. Strip club when married, b. With your dad? That's just gross. But that's just speculation right? Maybe the crew had the night off that night so they didn't go with him to the bar for that reason, not they they weren't allowed to film at whatever place he went to. They wanted to create drama for a drama-less couple so they added ominous music when they woke up that morning, and had them re-hash it. Also, if it's not a strip club, I really can't understand Vanessa's reaction. My husband can go out drinking...again it would be weird if it were with his dad...and I'm ok with my husband passing out on occasion. She said something about how she couldn't get ahold of him if she needed something? I guess I don't expect my husband to be on a constant state of alert for me. If I have a real emergency I'll call 911. If he gets drunk and passes out weekly, ok, there's an issue. I also found it odd that people had an issue with the conversation between Vanessa and Tres' father. I took him standing over her while she sat on the bed as respectful. He is not sitting on the bed with her, which would be weird. I just think he didn't have a chair to sit on readily, and the producers for some reason chose to film them in the bedroom. I don't necessarily think that Tres and Vanessa are going to make it, I think they are probably just boring. Or at least so far...in comparison to the other two flaming hot messes. ITA Ashley. Has there ever been anyone at all more introverted than her in reality TV history? She is just maddening. I can see why David is losing it. I wonder if Sam just thought that she would come on and we would all be bowled over by her Manic Pixie Truthyness. I wonder if she got a sense of how badly she would come across once she was paired with nice Neil, so she wanted to try to bring him down with the whole lame "different person in front of the camera" paranoia. I also just see her as being self-loathing in a really defensive way. She doesn't take herself or anyone (but her dad and wax melts) seriously.