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She's out of her mind. I'm sure that in the tiny part of her brain that hasn't been injected with Botox, she thinks that pairing up with Jalen will put her back on America's good side. Newsflash, Mack, you're the villain in the made for TV movie, "Mother, Can I Close My Eyes Through An Awkward Blowjob in the Hideaway?" What is Jalen thinking with Mackenzie? He's seen her Wanton Acts of Passive Aggression and still wants that? I mean, I get that Moira blends into the fake palm trees but apparently North America likes her and Calvin. The voters must like her eyes. Also, poor strategy on Jalen's part. He's gotta know that most viewers enjoy nothing more than poking Mackenzie with sticks. He's not gonna win in a partnership with her. Wow, Johnny...way to put your back into that kiss. Celi, who? What sad lost and found pile did the casting department find these guys in? Did Covid take all the hot guys away? Out of all of them, I think the least attractive has to be Pat. Yikes.

Totally. Her voice made me cringe. Am I the only one that think she looks like Mackenzie after being left in the microwave too long?

Connor, you in danger, boy! When yet another person (Sher) tells Connor that he's in a toxic relationship, maybe it's time to rethink things. Unless the teddy bear Mackenzie packed for Connor contains her evil spirit threatening to cut off his balls (actually has anyone checked the kitchen for Connor's balls? They might be in a jar in the pantry) then he's safe from her clutches in Casa Amor. Shocked not shocked that Mackenzie is a big old hypocrite when it comes to the new boys in the villa. It's okay for her to explore new things, but if Connor does it be prepared for a tsunami of manipulation tears from ol' fake lips. Another poster mentioned this but WHY would any of these new guys give Mackenzie the time of day when they've seen what a stage five clinger she is. Poor Moira is so easy to please. You just have to say something nice to her and she's all in. Didn't Cardboard Calvin say something similarly cheesy to her? She doesn't need a boyfriend, she just needs a little self-confidence. Casa Amor better bring some fireworks because right now this is all fizzle.

YES. I will always miss Georgia talking about being "loyal" 24/7. One of the many reasons that Original Flavor Love Island is the best. I knew it was coming but UGH. I will miss Lauren. She's right that she was always honest with people they just didn't bother to listen to what she was saying...LADIES. I'd love to see who voted against Lauren on the guys side because all the boys seemed to be all over her perfect hip ratio. We all knew Tre was a goner - Justine was leading that campaign - but Carrington? If the girls really thought Carrington had a future in there they would have kept Lauren since he was ready to get a UK passport stamp. Once again, we lose a level-headed and cool lady. BRING ON the Casa Amor drama. Yes, Mackenzie, North America (I didn't forget you, Canada!) is trying to tell you something. We're saying, "put down the bunny and step away from the boiling water." Look Connor has his issues, and I want to shake him, but I also remember how poor a communicator I was in my early-to-mid 20s I wasn't really confident enough to express my feelings and tell a boy what I needed (because I didn't even know). I feel sorry for him, but I also want to shake him. That's another reason I'm sad to see Lauren go. I don't know how interested she was in Connor but she seemed to provide an outlet for him to talk and be himself. Lauren also tried to encourage him to be honest. It might not have done any good had she stayed but Connor clearly needed someone else who could call out his toxic coupling because the other girls certainly aren't going to call Mackenzie on her cray cray. Can someone explain Justine's popularity on social to me? I feel like I'm missing something here. Calvin and Caleb are human narcolepsy.

Co-sign this! I was fairly indifferent to Tre in the beginning but I appreciate his perspective on all the drama and shenanigans. I also like Lauren -- I don't think she's the prettiest either, maybe if she stopped doing that weird thing with her eye pencil she'd look a bit better -- but she has a good energy. She's smart, understands the game, and, like Tre, her observations tend to be spot on and she's supportive. Those two aren't a good love match, but as a friend / game match, I'm here for Tre / Lauren and I'm really bummed that they're likely getting the boot. This season actually has some good people in it, like Kaitlynn, but they're too smart and level-headed to stay apparently.

On one hand, I want Mackenzie and her emotional baggage off my TV -- I'm pretty sure it exceeded the carry-on weight limit by 1000 lbs -- but the mean side of me wants nothing more than to continue to vote against her so she can cry about America hating her. I also desperately want Connor to go to Casa Amor and find someone else to bring back so all the collagen in Mackenzie's lips explode Scanners-style. I wonder if the producers are on Connor watch because he's just one episode away of being the victim in his very own Lifetime for Battered Women movie.

I've been bingeing this show on Amazon for the past week. It's exactly the sort of fun escapism I need to keep my mind off the pandemic madness. It's not a show that I need to overthink BUT as the seasons go on Frankie's fashion is killing me! I know I'm not the only poster to mention the sartorial inconsistencies here but by season 3, Frankie's outfits make her stick out like she's a time traveler that picked up her 20s/30s/40s (!) inspired costumes at Anthropologie. She looks like she's on a different show half the time! In season 3, episode 5, Frankie was wearing a double breasted white pant suit that looked more appropriate in a Duran Duran video from 1984 than 1920. WTH, costume department? I'm pretty sure that cropped skinny trousers were not the pant of choice for the flapper set (riding pants, yes). It's so bad that it takes me out of the show and to the forums! When we first met Nora (I'm in the minority and kind of like her) she had said that she'd left Frankie because she wasn't cut out for the life of a wife and mother. She wanted to be an independent woman grifting her way across North America. But in season three, when Frankie meets her surprise half-brother, all of a sudden Frankie's parents broke up because her dad had an affair so Nora left. It's a pretty clumsy retcon and felt like a lame attempt to bring Frankie and Nora closer together. One of the things that I like about Nora is that she's unapologetic about her decision to leave her family. It's not that she has regrets -- she does -- but at the end of the day she made the best decision at the time. Nora is happy to establish a relationship with Frankie now, but it's not the typical sentimental mother -daughter relationship. But if she left because of a love child then it takes the edge off. Also, if Frankie's father was so great then why did he keep his son -- who was in-the-know about his sister and had 12 years to spring an awkward family reunion on her -- away from his daughter? I'm a bit confused about Trudie's boyfriend, Bill. In the first two seasons we see him working as a janitor (?) at City Hall and when he gets Drake Detectives information, he has to do it without being caught by his bosses. In season 3, Bill has his own office. Did I miss a promotion or explanation for Bill's new job? Why did they introduce a diner in season 3? I liked Quon's. Did the writers think that the ladies needed less chop suey and more fries?

I think they gave her a choice: orange bronzer or hair dye. Mollie-Mae made the unwise decision to go the full Oompa Loompa. I also saw the winner announcement on Instagram. Not. Cool. U.K. Voters. Not cool at all. I'm going to finish because I love this trash show in all of it's horribly cut bathing suit glory but now I'm going to hate-watch. How soon do we think Tommy is going to break up with Mollie-Mae to be with Lucie. I give it 1-2 months.

I've only watched through episode 30 on Hulu so Francesca has not arrived yet in the villa (they're still dealing with the aftermath of the Casa Amor massacre). They only drop five new epodes each week so I'll have to wait. So there is still time for me to add Maura to my TV shit list - so far she's been fairly entertaining and only mildly obnoxious. I recommend going back to past seasons. They're all on Hulu. Seasons 3-4 were very entertaining. Good viewing when you're busy doing chores and only have to half pay attention.

I'm all caught up on Hulu and I'm a little bummed that there aren't more people posting about the show. I feel like this season has a really ugly vibe compared to previous seasons. Amber, Anna and Amy are strong with the mean girl vibes (Mollie-Mae isn't great either but she's not as aggressively awful). In past seasons when there's been drama, contestants have certainly gotten heated but the fact that Amber and Anna are so aggressive in their attacks on who they feel have "wronged them" is so ridiculous that I've been wondering if the villa is actually set in a junior high school and not Mallorca. I've read articles that viewers in the U.K. have been reporting contestants on the show for their behavior which tells you something when your fun summer show consumption tastes this bitter. I think this year it's really down to poor casting. Also, I know that I should feel badly for Amy with the whole Curtis fiasco but....I really don't. She was downright horrible to Lucie, and honestly, writing "Mrs. Curtis Pritchard" all over her Trapper Keeper was so deeply pathetic that I had to roll my eyes. Yes, you haven't had a proper adult relationship but you've traveled the world as an air hostess so it's not like you've only lived in one of those small eccentric English villages in an episode of Midsommer Murders. Grow up. These girls do realize that while the girl code is great and all, they are still on a gameshow. Contestants are looking for fame (I mean, love, definitely love), Instagram likes and early skin cancer not staged best friendships. I miss the days of "I'm so loyal" Georgia from season 4. Despite her PeeWee like attachment to her word of the season, at least when Georgia caused drama with Laura, the hounds of reality show hell weren't leashed on her the way that Amber and Anna go after anything and anyone they don't like (which is pretty much everything that doesn't fit into their very narrow Instagram filter). The guys are meh. Although I am enjoying the addition of Ovie who just seems generally cool and low-key funny. I say give the prize to the best couple on the show...Tommy and Curtis. They have the best chemistry of anyone in there. Plus, Curtis makes sure everyone gets their coffee in the morning which is reason enough to give him a prize. That and you have to appreciate a guy who scripted out exactly who his character on the show was going to be and committed to the role. All the bouquets of cheap gas station flowers to Mr. Pritchard!