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I don't think it's unrealistic at all. I'm pretty sure he said he was the DJ at the Fillmore Graves company picnic, not the Max Rager boat party, which means he's likely been with Fillmore Graves for the entire time he's been a zombie. Since party DJs turned FG mercenaries likely are not rolling in cash, the only way he would have had access to real brains is if he killed someone and ate them or if he went grave robbing. I could see most people in his position choosing to stick with the goo FG provides rather than running out to try to score a whole brain if they don't have someone to hook them up.

As I said upthread, I'm definitely feeling the "ugh Peyton" vibe, but I don't think Ravi deserves to be let off the hook here. Nothing that you just described justifies Ravi ignoring Peyton's calls just days after she was abducted by gunpoint from her apartment. The way he's treated her has been terrible. And throwing it in Ravi's face that Blaine was the one who rescued her? After what she's just been through, it seems weird that we'd expect her to be sensitive to the fact that Ravi might be feeling jealous over the fact that a man who saved her was someone she slept with. A good boyfriend would be way concerned about his girlfriend's well being at this point than jealous, yet Ravi ghosted Peyton right after she endured an incredibly traumatic experience. And while yes, I do think she was mean to Ravi after his apology, I do suspect she was right that Ravi was hoping for an apology from Peyton to. You could see it written on his face after she said it. Which made me feel a lot less sympathetic towards Ravi in that moment. That said, none of my annoyance at Ravi's behavior makes me any less disgusted by Peyton's relationship with Blaine. She may not have known he was a homeless child murderer when they had sex (though he WAS her informant and that was sooooo unprofessional!), but she knows now. She shouldn't just get to decide that Blaine is a different person now that he's lost his memories. She clearly wasn't a good judge of character before, so she shouldn't be so sure she's a good enough of one now. Agreed. So much of what's happened re:zombies is Blaine's fault anyway. He's personally and intentionally infected god knows how many people, and if this memory serum works, Ravi might have the opportunity to actually cure some of the people Blaine has hurt. Blaine owes it to his victims to be the guinea pig.

That made me smile too. And yes, the Quarantine is a call out to A Clockwork Orange, but it also seems to be a mass version of what we saw happen to Agent 33 in season 2 (which was also obviously inspired by ACO).

Wasn't he the person that Fitz was talking about to his father about getting sent to the reenlightenment centers for being caught with a camera? I assumed that was the case because Fitz said the camera the guy was caught with didn't have film, and then Tripp was looking for his film-containing boots as they were evacuating. Though I thought I saw a twinge of recognition when May and Coulson interacted, I do think it was the kids in quarrantine that led May to decide to betray Hydra and power up Daisy. Terrigen crystals themselves are not lethal to humans, terrigen crystals that were grown from melting down Diviners were. We don't know the origin of the Terrigen in Hydra's possession, but if they managed to either get a different source than what the clan at Afterlife had or they managed to separate the terrigen from the diviner fragments (something we know is possible since it happened when the crystals dissolved into the ocean at the end of season two), then the terrigen itself wouldn't be deadly to May.

What would "better hero" entail though? His comment to May makes no sense unless he's more than human. He asked her if she was "one of us now?" I assume the "us" doesn't mean the resistance, since being a member of the resistance doesn't give you increased strength.

Tripppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So happy to have him back even if it is temporary. So was Mace an Inhuman for real in this frame work? I don't think he was "juicing" like he was in the real world, as he asked May when they were fighting if she was juicing or if she'd become one of us/them. Mack and his kid are breaking my heart.

Ugh Peyton. I've never loved her character, and setting her up so that her only storyline is to be part of a love triangle between Ravi and Blaine isn't doing her any favors. Especially since I can't help but judge someone who still sticks around Blaine even knowing who he is. Blaine may alledgedly no longer have memories of his many, many crimes, but losing his memories didn't wipe his slate clean. It probably didn't even make him a person with better morals. This is not someone she should be attending the gigs of or calling up whenever she needs a sympathetic ear. He is not boyfriend material. He's not even friend material. She's right though about Ravi. He needs to either get over the fact that she hooked up with Blaine, or forget about any possibility of a romantic future together. She didn't wrong him by hooking up with Blaine anymore than he wronged her by having that girlfriend when she took a break from Seattle after finding out about zombies.

I don't think Radcliffe as a character can be viewed through a normal lens of good and evil. He's a purely neutral character. When he says he wanted to do "good" with the framework, I expect he means it in the same way he thought all of his other weird transhumanist work was for the good of humanity. He's still the same guy who was intrigued by Hive's plan to create a world full of Inhumans, and was fully willing to go along with it until he realized that Hive was willing to settle turning humanity into primitive beings so long as they were technically inhuman. I'd edit these two and say Melinda's regret is that she didn't spare the girl's life, not that she didn't save her. After all, there was nothing to save her from, Katya was the one everyone else needed to be rescued from. Now we see the framework as a world in which May is living with the horror of what might have happened had she not pulled the trigger and instead let Katy's continue to live and roam free in the world. As for Fitz, I don't think his regret is just not having grown up with his father, I suspect his regret is that his father wasn't/isn't proud of him. Jemma mentioned earlier this season that Fitz was verbally abused as a child and that before his dad left, he was always telling Fitz that he wasn't smart enough and that he was worthless. I wouldn't be surprised if part of Fitz believes that if he could have been the sort of son that his dad would have wanted him to be, that he wouldn't have left. Maybe that means the Fitz of the framework is the kind of man that Fitz imagined his father would have loved and been proud of. We already know (thanks to Radcliffe, who knew Fitz's dad) that he was a shady sort of scientist who was willing to work with bad people. I could see a son a guy like that would be proud of working for Hydra. Maybe they are in the framework, but some are on the side of Hydra while the others are in hiding/prison/dead. Maybe it's just me, but I'm seeing a lot of parallels between the storyline within the Framework with the Civil War storyline in the comics. The Cambridge Incident seems to be a Agents of SHIELD analog for the Stamford Incident, and the Inhumans seem to be standing in for superheroes in general (who also had to register or face imprisonment). Mace may even be our Captain America stand in. The comic Civil War storyline had Team Ironman going down a much darker path (including collaborating with Marvel supervillains like Norman Osborne) than we saw in the MCU Civil War, so I find it a little easier to imagine the Framework becoming a much darker world due to the butterfly effect from first May, then the others, eliminating their one regret. I don't doubt Aida's pleased with the way things went down as her grudge against SHIELD is genuine, but I don't think she had to micromanage every little detail in order to bring about the current reality within the framework.

I think most premium channels have free preview weekends at least once, if not 2-3 times a year. Before I became a paid HBO subscriber, I used to binge watch series whenever free preview time rolled around. I Didn't Vivian also say that FG had human employees that knew about zombies? There's a possibility that one of them could be the direct or indirect (i.e. if someone in their lives find out through about zombies them) source.

Awwww, Rob and Rahul's real life bromance is ever bit as adorable and charming as Major's and Ravi's! I love that. Even worse: the show seemed to insinuate that she might not have turned into a zombie at all if Clive had still been around when her ex got out of prison. Or at least that's how I interpreted his boss's question of if Clive ever thought about how things might have turned out differently had Clive still been around when Anna's ex had gotten out of prison. If I'm not mistaken, it was Anna's brother who was the Fillmore Graves employee. Had she not gone to live with him, she and Wally might not have ever been exposed to zombies. I can't explain it or justify it, but I just get the vibe that Vivian wants the secret to come out. She just doesn't seem freaked out enough about being on the verge of exposure. I know she's been preparing for this day for 22 months, but as I already expressed in the thread for last week's episode, I'm not at all impressed with her separatist colony-in-the-puget-sound plan. Something ain't right here.

It helps that the actors play Joy and Ward were completely believable as siblings. They had great chemistry together, and were able to come off as very loving/caring toward one another without giving off any weird romantic vibes that sometimes happen inadvertently between actors playing siblings.

That interpretation doesn't make sense to me, because Davos would have no reason to try to include Joy in his scheming if he didn't have very good reasons to believe that Joy would be sympathetic to his cause. If he didn't, he'd be opening himself up to the very thing you're suggesting (Joy stringing him along, or even just alerting Danny that Davos is actively plotting revenge against him), and I don't think Davos is that dumb. And hell, even if he is, Gao (assuming they're indeed working together, as you theorize) is definitely not that dumb.

You call correctly, and $25k is even the price we've heard Blaine quote his customers. I think there's no question that the mystery dealer is Blaine. While it's never been established exactly how often a zombie needs to feed, I think they may be able to stretch 1 brain for longer than a week. There have been multiple instances where Liv has shared a single brain with another zombie (horny, romance writer brain with Drake, mercenary brain with Major, science brain with Blaine plus at least one with Lowell), times where she's consumed the same brain twice (crazy stalker brain) and she's even frozen and saved portions of brains that she's liked for a future meal (positivity brain, though Major was the one who got to eat it). That suggests that the necessary portion of brains needed to maintain sanity, may be smaller than we think. Liv's zombie food porn usually look like they contain a few ounces of brain at most, and she doesn't seem to be eating a brain meal every day. At that rate, she might be able to make a brain stretch 2 weeks. I'm sure a military organization would be pretty good at rationing brains in order to make sure that the zombies got exactly the amount of brain they needed, no more, no less in order to make their supply stretch as long as possible.

That would be a wise idea (assuming the tiny island can actually support a ton of multi-level underground structures, that's not always the case), but that doesn't appear to be what they're doing. Vivian showed us pictures of the school they're building, and it's definitely above ground.

I imagine regular bombs would be fairly effective against zombies, if they used enough of them. A carpet bombing campaign should kill or incapacitate them enough to be able to go in and finish the rest off. I mean I'm sure the zombies will build bomb shelters, but they're too close to the mainland (and to a major Air Force base, which is within 30-40 miles away) to have much warning before an air strike starts.

Eh considering that these cures haven't been thoroughly tested for safety, trying them out primarily on children seems like an extremely dodgy proposition. They've only tried this cure on one human subject, and while Blaine hasn't suffered any physical side effects yet, it's only been a few weeks. It hasn't even been that long since the zombie test rats received the cure. They can't say with any certainty that there are no serious long term health effects (or death!) that aren't more serious than zombism itself. So it's probably not a great idea to give it to children.

Didn't Vivian already cover that? She said something about a lot of crematorium operators being able to buy houses in cash, which implies she's got multiple sources for brains that should be able to operate fairly discreetly.

Liv That's more or less right, though Peyton was the one who moved back in. Liv has lived in that apartment for the entire series. I would hope not, as that reason is exactly why it's unlikely that the humans of Washington would allow zombies to set up a homeland so nearby. The island Vivian pointed out on the map appears to be Blake Island, which is only a couple of miles offshore. That's easy swimming distance for a zombie. The only reason to be that close is if the zombies think they might need to hunt humans for food. I can't imagine the humans of Washington state seeing a place so nearby as a proper quarantine. They'd annihilate it by air strike to get rid of it. Zombies may have the advantage in person to person combat, but I would imagine that they could still be easily overpowered by the US Air Force.

It was definitely less funny than most iZombie episodes (and Ravi was a bit of a drip this week, which rarely happens!), though I think it was probably necessary to break from the usual formula this week to set up the plot for the rest of the season. The promo for next week suggests that at least some things will be returning to normal next week.

No, I agree. I think I'm just looking for reasons to be suspicious of her, because while she seemed genuine, there's something about her character that screams "stop! it's a trap!" I couldn't stop looking for signs. Here's a giant logistical issue: if you're going to build a zombie homeland, would you really choose an island in the middle of Puget Sound? These people are supposed to be expert military types. I realize that being on an island would at least protect them from land invasions, but being on an island situated in an inland sea that's still completely surrounded by the United States seems like a horrible plan. If you're going to build a zombie homeland, shouldn't it at least be somewhere into international waters?

Soooooo happy that iZombie is back! The past year has been interminable. When the series finale aired last year I had no idea it was going to be a full 49 weeks until the show came back. So cruel! So, what does everyone else think about the Fillmore Graves gal? I don't know if I'm just primed to think she's a villain after how we ended the finale last year, but part of me is wondering if she had Wally's family killed in order to give him the motivation to side with Team Z.

It makes sense that he has unusual social skills, it does not make sense that he's so naive and idiotic. He may have grown up in a monastery, but he grew up in one that trained children to be hardened warriors. If all of the children raised by the monastery are as wide-eyed and trusting as Danny is (which, we know isn't the case), K'un Lun would be in a lot of trouble every 15 years.

Maybe the Hand isn't the only thing it needs guarding from? While we know K'un Lun is only open to Earth once every 15 years, we don't know anything about the 15 years where it's closed. It could be exposed to other sources of danger in that time. Maybe even from the dragon the Iron Fist has to fight in order to score the position.

No Madame Gao osn't filling out missing persons reports, but she likely wouldn't have to. In both Daredevil and Iron Fist, The Hand is portrayed as having people planted inside hospitals. It's not a big stretch to think that they could have people inside the police department or the medical examiner's office as well. Might as well take extra precautions where you can.

They were cremating Harold's body. I don't think we actually saw David Wenham in there so for all we know Harold's resurrected himself and stuck a new corpse in his place, but Ward, Danny and Hogarth were there for the purpose of burning his remains.