GracieK

Victoria F has got to have massive amounts of Botox in her face. Her forehead and eyebrows do not move and she speaks as though she’s wearing a clay mask that won’t allow her to fully move her mouth. Her face has always looked strange to me but this rose ceremony where she was shown up close under bright light as she was speaking really made it noticeable. Her chin is oddly stretched too like she’s had a severe facelift.. it’s so weird.

I just started watching.. I had to laugh out loud at Peter asking what Hannah Ann’s goals are.. answer: I want to keep modeling.. because I want to go deep and not be superficial. Uhhhhh... The rest of that conversation was like a job interview between his calculated questions and her perfect responses complete with parroting back his questions in the form of an answer. Peter will give a rose to anyone who cries to him. Emotionally stable relationships are not in his future.

It’s like Peter is trying to convince Kelley to join a cult.. only he’s no Tom Cruise. I don’t know why Kelley accepted his rose.. she’s not even enjoying the vacation.

Victoria F is a total drip who provides nothing but whiny type of drama. I don’t understand his attraction to her.. if it’s just looks she’s got a great body but the face of a horse. If he didn’t have many other attractive women to choose from I would get the appeal more. Her comments to Alayah regarding her Chase Rice date “it was very personal to me”. Give me a break... Pretty sure she was a groupie who had a one night stand so stop trying to elevate your importance by pretending you had a relationship with a celeb. This confrontation has more to do with her fear that her non-relationship will be exposed to Peter than her personal indignation over having her date discussed with the other women. Victoria P - obviously and blatantly lied. Peter, no matter how much she makes you feel bad by crying about how you don’t trust her, you need to just come right out and admit that you don’t trust her.. for good reason. Alayah is obnoxious but guess what ladies.. you all are. The ganging up is simply deflection from your own obnoxious qualities. Shiann, he’s just not that into you. I can’t form more of an opinion on Kelsey because her nose is too distracting.

I’m also 42 and feeling the same way. They’re definitely 14. It’s them not us! 🤪

Yaaaassss!! I came here to post this same thing about Alayah... the proper response to his hmmming and hawing over whether he believes Sydney or not should be to say if you’re going to believe every bit of trash talk from a woman you don’t know any better than me right now, without getting to know me on your own then see ya later - walk out and show some dignity. Instead it’s this anxiety ridden drama fest over whether it’s ruined their relationship or not. And let’s face it she IS fake (like the rest of them) because she’s not crying over Peter.. she’s crying over missed Instagram dollars. I know that every year I watch this I get older but the girls stay the same age (alright, alright, alright) but this year in particular they all seem SO young and so immature. I wish there was a way to recruit women of actual substance instead of Instagram shilling wannabes.

The amount of times Kelsey says “it’s not fair!” is making my head explode. Grown ass adults who say that deserve to be slapped right across the face and forced to confront reality. It’s called life honey, and whoever told you it’s fair or that you are owed anything lied to you. I mean I don’t condone violence so not like a really hard slap or anything.

Maybe that's what she meant. It just seemed to me that she was caught in a lie and was extremely emotional and she was using overly dramatic language to express herself. In the context of what has happened to her in the past, however.. it just sounded wrong. I don't think any of us can understand what she has been through, and I'm sure it affects how she processes emotions. I hope she has a trusted professional she speaks with that helps her with coping mechanisms.

I thought it was really uncomfortable that Caelynn claimed she never felt so violated as she did when Blake released her texts. I mean she's been gang raped...

I didn't really take Clay as saying he wanted her to be at the gym with him for 4 hours a day. But I was multi-tasking during that convo. Wasn't he more saying she was welcome to come with him? Does she have a full time or traditional job that would preclude her from going with him on some days? I wouldn't want to spend hours on end at the gym either, but it just makes me wonder if it was a situation where she was complaining about the time he spent there and his response was well come with me. It was literally his job to be in the gym and training to get NFL ready. Angela expressed her desire to be a stay at home mom, and that didn't align with what Clay wanted in a relationship. I think it's ok for him to feel that way and to walk away from the relationship based on that. Quite frankly, I wouldn't want to marry a man whose goal was to be a stay at home dad. It's more mature to be honest and end it if that is a deal breaker, than hope she'll change her mind down the road when they actually have kids.

I feel like Matt hides behind his mom as an excuse to keep from admitting he doesn’t like kissing women.

Plus after a few weeks the Brazilian wax starts to come back in.

Yeah Demi nailed Connor's awful vocal fry.

Wasn't Tayshia married before? She's coming off like the scorned ex-wife projecting all of her failed relationships onto everyone else. I'm on my second marriage so I'm allowed to say that 🙂

JPJ is acting like a huge weirdo doofus, but I'm willing to bet that Derek did make some comment about coming onto the podcast because the ladies love it and you can have your pick of the groupies or something along those lines. I don't think JPJ is making that up.. I just think Derek assumed he was just "one of the guys" when he said that and never thought JPJ would have a meltdown over it and out the conversation. I'm sure these dorks have lots of conversations off camera about how to milk and exploit their "notoriety".

Hannah G looks like she’d rather be de-worming orphans in Somalia than be at this wedding next to Dylan.

Krystal actually has a normal speaking voice now

Apparently that Christian guy’s ex gf is accusing him of sleeping with her mother. It all sounds like something out of a telenovela https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7381545/Christian-Estrada-accused-sleeping-ex-girlfriends-Frida-Sofias-mother.html

I think the show was definitely testing Derek as a potential Bachelor with this storyline. I’m sure that he was in on it and that was dangled as the possibility if he played along.

😂 it’s just a thing from the show The League. It’s supposed to describe a mouth or lips that look like an anus.. I used to argue with my husband that they should be saying anus-like mouth not mouth-like anus.. you know the important debates in life.

He has a mouth like anus.. tm The League

I don’t think Caelynn has had lots of plastic surgery per se but I do think she uses fillers. I think her face looked swollen and rubbery the first night but it’s now starting to relax the further she gets from her last injection. If she makes it to the end she may even end up looking semi normal again.

But Hannah and Tayshia are supposedly friends.. they mentioned living together at some point although that may have been in reference to their season on the Bachelor. If they were friends since then in regular communication it seems odd that Hannah wouldn’t have told her that they went out and hooked up.

Ew did Nicole dive in for a kiss when what’s his face had a mouthful of food??

Jordan makes me legit LOL.. go buy a pair of espadrilles you *bleep*.. he’s so ridiculous!!