ImogenLeFay

Until we see any proof of this supposed darkness, I will assume that Robin has no idea what he's talking about. As far as we know, what was his darkness? Stealing, okay. But he was doing that in rebellion to a tyrant. That's grey at the most, and probably only a very light grey - with all his talk of honor and codes, I'd be very surprised if he killed the people he stole from, unless they were soldiers. The point is, that's not very dark. Definitely nothing even in the same area as Regina. She's a mass murderer, a rapist, she burnt countless villages, and for what? For an insane quest for revenge on a ten-year old. Even if we assumed Regina had a real redemption arc (which I do not buy, but not the point), there are tons of darkness, and that can't just be talked away. So Robin saying he has darkness in his past, even comparing that to Regina's past? It's absolutely ridiculous, it's insulting to her victims, it's insulting to the audience, and honestly, it's insulting to Regina and her perception of her own guilt. (Well, the one the show tells us she has. Works fine with my perception of her). I think Robin just talked about his own darkness to make Regina's past sound less bad, so he doesn't have to feel bad about wanting her. "Sure, she did bad things, I did bad things, now they'll be good together." At least that way he doesn't have to actually deal with the fact that he loves a woman who has done absolutely horrible things.

Fourth date. The girls were talking about Amy going on her third date with Dave and that it meant things were getting a bit serious. The third date was the one we saw where he started gushing over Sheldon, so this is the fourth.

I miss Snow White... In season one, she would have pulled that prisoner trick herself, only convincing. But I can't blame Zelena, I totally get where she's coming from. How come she was the most annoying person ever when she was the main villain, the most obnoxious plot twist when she was revealed to be Marian, and now that she's only a side character she's becoming one of the most entertaining characters on this show?

Do we even know if Emma is the one tree-ing people? I feel like that's been assumed but not actually confirmed, but I might have missed something.

Rumpel wasn't evil at the beginning of his own story, but he was definitely evil by the time Merlin in form of the hat entered his story.

When Merida was talking about how she was the queen, I thought "Kid, get off my screen. Elsa was a queen. You? You're a brat!" I honestly don't think Merida has brought much to the show (except for amazing hair). And now I miss Elsa again, she and Emma were great together.

I didn't mind the episode, though I'm not impressed by Merida or her storyline. But I mostly liked Belle apart from her "Emma and Rumpel are exactly the same - though that scene gave us everybody showing that absolutely nobody but Belle cares about Rumpel's fate. And I think in both past and present, Belle was the bigger hero, not Rumpel and definitely not the character from a movie called "Brave" that needed Belle to trick her into facing her fear... Regina being motivated by somebody doing something as horrible as ripping out hearts will never not be precious. And by that I mean nauseating. I actually loved the scene between Emma and Zelena. Didn't care much about all the "Emma, you're SOOO evil", but I liked their chemistry and banter. I wouldn't mind those two teaming up. But seriouly, show, stop telling me how Emma is so horribly evil. What has she done that we know of? She took Violet's heart, she took Merida's heart and controlled her, trying to have her kill Belle - make that fail at killing Belle, because she needed Rumpel to come to the rescue - and smoke-teleport around a lot. Sure, ripping out people's heart is bad, but nobody blinks an eye when Regina does it, so I don't see how that makes her so evil. I'd get that they don't want to show Emma do completely evil things so they can redeem her later. But then they need to stop talking about how she is so evil that she's rivalling the evillest characters ever. It's like when they sent Regina to pretend to be evil and join the QoD last season, and they're horrible horribleness was to do shots and play chicken on the rails.

Why? Regina has never had a problem with calling out other people. Only when it comes to her own actions it's always somebody else's fault, or because people have made her a "villain". And the comparison to Cora's actions isn't that stable either, is it? Emma didn't kill the girl. Rather, let's compare it to when Regina took Belle's heart last season. What Emma needed to do was to break Henry's heart - result was "Sorry, I don't really like you that way." All Regina had to do with Belle was to inform Rumpel that Belle is her hostage. Result? Rubbing Rumpel's face in the fact that Will Scarlet was a better kisser than him? Of course, Regina can do that and still be a hero. Emma? She's bascially Cora 2.0

When they first said they needed the tear of lost love, I was so sure they'd break out Lancelot and get him to cry over Guinevere. But sure, I guess a teenage crush works just as well. That makes total sense. Also, interesting that Regina still says Cora wanted to do what was best for her child, paralleling that with Emma using the same excuse. Emma didn't do it for the best of Henry, to try to scare of a girl she thought unsuitable. She did it for the greater good and to get Merlin out to save everybody - from herself. As for Cora? Does Regina still believe her mother did anything that wasn't 100% for the benefit of Cora? Perspective, woman. Get some.

I didn't think too much of it during the episode - I was actually too busy rolling my eyes at "Hero" Regina - but what I understood was that in the real world they'd need the blood of the savior gone dark, so maybe in bizarro world they need the blood of a villaine gone light? Of course, that doesn't make much sense either, that would have fit Lily much better than Regina (if Lily would have gone light in the AU). Or maybe I just made something up because it didn't make sense on the show. No idea.

It's pity Nealfire had to bring him back. I thought it was a really good end for Rumpel's story, redemption through death or whatever the trope name was. Since they brought him back, he's been such a mess, it's not even entertaining anymore.

Yeah, I'm not going to count on that again. I actually thought she was lying all the way back when she told Regina they were sisters - with everybody being related to everybody I was 100% sure she was just saying that to screw with Regina, and then it turned out she was lying. Not giving them the benefit of the doubt again. ...and I so called the pregnancy from the creepy meat loaf line.

I think if I still cared about this show, I'd be really pissed about this episode. The Cruella stuff was fun, yes, but the main cast is getting destroyed more and more. Even with the little amount I'm caring, I'm still really disappointed in the writing for Snowing. They may pay lip-service to the fact that the whole egg-thing was wrong and unheroic - then turn around and say it was totally worth it, they're actually completely fine with it and would do it again. And still they're upset Emma isn't forgiving them? Or maybe they think they didn't really do anything wrong, and the question isn't why Emma doesn't forgive them but rather why she's angry at all, because it was what they had to do at the moment. They can totally join with Regina and her "I don't regret my horrible deeds because they got me what I want" attitude. Then again, the whole plot is just so dumb, I can't even... At least Hook is still pretty. But I'm slowly running out of other reasons to watch this.

Sooo, I just remembered, Honorable And Good Robin Hood has the Dark One at his mercy and can bargain for whatever he wants in exchange for the heart potion thing... and all he can think of is "I want your son's apartment"?

I think I don't even want to comment on the episode, except it does feel like a retcon, and if it was planned, then they're really, really bad at their job. But apart from that, and I'm not sure if somebody asked about it, and I SO hope that I got this wrong.... But what was Zelena's comment about a pot roast in the oven? Please tell me that was meant literally, and not figuratively like "bun in the oven", because Zelena is annoying enough, but if there's another pregnancy, I'm out.