Andiethewestie
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Season 33.E09: Semifinals
Andiethewestie replied to dancingdreamer's topic in Dancing With The Stars
I still have a strong opinion that Chandler was most vulnerable. Perhaps she got a rally of support after the hate fest on line last week. That would be great wherever she can find the support because the personal attacks have returned. Last week she had a bad vibe.Now she's a smug self entitled bitch that doesn't take criticism because they were confused by Carrie Ann's deduction. The confusion is warranted btw. In Dancesport unintentional lifts which this was, are not deducted from the score. But even if it's just Carrie Ann's rules she is inconsistent. Allen choreographed a lift for Ilona's Foxtrot and Witney choreographed an assisted lift on their Quickstep last week. So it's a bit exhausting I'm sure for this team to be nitpicked. Carrie Ann just won't give that gorgeous foxtrot a 10. It was danced right on the edge beautiful dance topline, and lovely over sway. I am as always disappointed in Carrie Ann. -
Just to confirm Production organized the dances for Danny and he accepted without complaint.
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So was looking at another message board. It seems a lot of fans were upset at how certain fans of other contestants went into Chandler's feed to leave untoward comments and she may have picked up support from the on-line community. I guess we will know tonight.
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From the New York Times: Producers learned that everything is content. These days on set, producers are focusing as much on shooting for other platforms as they do for TV. The “D.W.T.S.” social media team comes into rehearsals every day to capture content, like a behind the scenes blooper reel that currently has over 6 million views on the show’s official TikTok. Staffers also post videos and pictures to social media on show days to encourage fan voting. For the show’s 500th episode, which aired last week, two of the professional dancers who have been eliminated this season — Emma Slater and Ezra Sosa — went live on the official “D.W.T.S.” TikTok page during the second half of the episode, when they showed behind the scenes of couples rehearsing, reactions in the ballroom and live commentated on an instant dance challenge. Green sees the use of social media as a “virtuous circle”: Though each episode runs two hours, the dance performances are a minute long — about the average length of a TikTok video. Viral performance moments give a lift. This season’s unexpected front-runner pairing is Danny Amendola, the former New England Patriots receiver, and Witney Carson, a pro in her 13th season. The pair have gotten lots of praise from judges and viewers alike for their choreography, but their routines have a life outside the show, too. In Week 5, the duo performed a contemporary piece to “Unsteady” by X Ambassadors that became an instant sensation. In it, Amendola lifts Carson from the floor, pulling her up by an ankle. People tried to recreate the move in TikTok posts; on the dwtsofficial TikTok page, the video of the dance has over 12 million views. “We really didn’t know until we were scrolling on TikTok that everybody was doing it,” Carson said. The former “Bachelor” . And while these viral moments help the show, Carson said she doesn’t choreograph with that in mind. Instead, she tries to create “wow moments” in her dances, which become viral as a happy accident. “I’m thinking about the audience thinking ‘this could be a really great moment’ in every single routine that I do.”
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She has by far the most on line fans. It isn't even close I think there is always manipulation but this season it's helps a weak dancer who imho wouldn't have got to the semis without it.
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He didn't play Quarterback he caught balls from the GOAT Tom Brady, and did get an MVP award in one of the Patriots championship seasons. A little better than solid but not a superstar like Emmit Smith agreed. The favouritism stems from the viral TikTok that has exploded this season all those views and likes are unprecedented in the history of DWTS and has significantly increased viewership particularly amongst the youth demographic that the show has been chasing for years.Production wants to keep Danny for as long as possible, and I believe the rules have been bent to make sure that happens.
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3 Million views on Tik Tok in one week is definitely going to change the trajectory of the show. Even though this leg lift in Danny and Witney's contemporary is quite common in contemporary dancing and a version of it was done in Iman and Dani's astonishing contemporary two seasons ago, it has not got this kind of attention ever as an isolated movement. This kind of attention gives Danny not only a huge increase in his fandom which other fanbases envy, good for him, but more concerning for fans of ballroom dancing is an easy path to appear in command of his dancing. Production changed rules to suit an athlete who can lift or do tricks, instead of learn the techniques of 3 out of 5 Latin Ballroom dances. This has never been done in the history of the show. I believe the medical reasons is a distraction, so many contestants over the years even this year (See Eric Robert's Cha Cha) have danced injured, or with chronic osteo issues that affect range of motion that to think a medical pass is necessary for a guy who played football hurt or could manage a backflip in a Foxtrot almost comical. But just looking at amazing tricks, Dwight is better at it, however the show made sure he also got a mix of standard and rhythmic Latin which is what took him out. Danny is not getting this kind of scrutiny, and is only finally getting a social Latin Salsa at the semi finals which is not judged at the same level of technical specifics that a Cha Cha or a Rumba is. It appears the show is fine with phasing out dances that so many fans looked forward to. Social dances have come and went on DWTS, but now core Latin Ballroom is affected. Everyone who wasn't Chandler hated the Instant Challenge because they and their fans knew the challenge was too much for them. It significantly moved the needle in terms of their ranking. Before the challenge everyone but Dwight was within a 3 point margin that can easily overcome Chandler's fanbase. After the challenge the point margin increased by 5-9 points which is more than statistically significant when calculating the final number. Alarming for Chandler is that while she only needed to clear Dwight's numbers to advance, being in the bottom for the third time meant she barely did so. Then the huge backlash of racist and misogynistic comments reared its ugly head so much so that DWTS had to remove over a 1000 comments on Chandler's DWTS feed, unfortunately after Chandler saw it, which is history repeating itself from last season. So regardless if you think the Instant dance was there to help Chandler or not, I personally thought it was a challenge to balance out the trick based dancing - she hasn't had an easy ride.
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FWIW, I'm not seeing signs that the show is blatantly favoring Danny. It's not like "he should have been gone weeks ago, why is he still here?" Also, it's not true that Danny, Stephen, or Ilona can have good semis only at the expense of Chandler or Joey. My guess: The producers are well-situated. Not only are ABC/Disney affiliated stars Chandler and Joey the best dancers, they both made semis without massive help. There could have been a marathon dance or something The favouring of Danny is blatant. He is the first in the history of the show to take a pass on Latin Rhythmic dances. You cannot underestimate the power of getting placement of only those dances that aren't technically judged - contemporary, jazz, ( in a row mind you.which is quite rare, most contestants get one or the other lift heavy dance not both-plus Argentine Tango ) and an instant dance Jive for the third time, when he already danced it twice. Nobody else has got to compete with that kind of familiarity of one dance style. Carrie Ann miraculously dropping the marks off for any lifts in ballroom dances, why? A backflip in a Foxtrot would not have been something Len would have approved of. And yet if he wasn't called weeks ago there are those who agree he shouldn't still be there, but for the grace of viral TicTok. As for help for Chandler of course the Instant Dance helped her. When the judges wouldn't give others appropriate marks for their main dance, (Sharna re-cap judged Stephen at an 8 tops for example instead of wildly inflated 10's) The judges had to deduct for the rough instant dances, so that by the end of the night the one dancer who could actually improv part of the instant dance to new choreography and came out 5 points ahead of Joey, 6 points ahead of Stephen 8 points ahead of Ilona and 9 points ahead of Danny. With that kind of point spread she should've cleared the bottom easily. But still with the boost she hit bottom 3 for the third time along with Dwight who as we know didn't score well. Without the boost Chandler may well have went home ahead of Dwight, if Dwight scored an 8 instead of a 7. It's that tenuous.
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Frankie sorry about the spelling, I'm sorry didn't exactly do so great. But if you're into gold stars for participation I guess you'd love it. But my reason for going is I wanted to see the pros in action and if there was a good contestant with them all the better. That's why I thought it be fun to see Jordan, that hateful guy do his thing. I really don't know his personality but I love his dancing. See I'm not a personality hire kind of fan, I'm a dance fan and I root for those with training and those without when they really strived to do something extraordinary . And sure do I love going to Lincoln Centre to see New York City Ballet crush a Balanchine choreography or watching the Alvin Ailey dancers you betcha! But we don't get a lot of Ballroom shows around so it's nice when one comes along in my area. Since you're considering what my preference is, If I want to spend money on being entertained I prefer watching people regardless of dance background get as close to the standard idea of ballroom as they can. You know Len Goodman approved contestants who can give it some Welly. Certainly there are those who clamoured to see Harry Housey in action on tour such as it was last season. Hard pass for me. But I do wish I had the opportunity to see Iman Shumpert on tour. From the fan vids he looks like he crushed it.
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Just spitballing -Latin Ballroom would be risk he didn't want. He wanted insurance to make sure he's final 3. So the better gamble is to get a favourable judgement going head to head against Chandler's Salsa proving he can hang with the dancers . Possibly a top placement gets him something even more lucrative than the payday and the cereal endorsement. Since social media and viral moments are a recent phenomenon it obvious the show wants to capitalize on every occurrence. He also was a good player in the Brady era, just got inducted into the Patriots HOF
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Interesting he seemed to have a lot of fans never hit bottom and swept season 25 pretty easily. The only time I ever had a notion to see a Tour show is when he was on it. He was very good. Frankie Nunez was also there.and he wasn't so great. I'm sure he's a nice guy but I'd never buy a ticket to see him dance
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With respect, ridiculous. Some of the best Sambas on this show were achieved by so called non ringers. Apolo Ohno anyone? Hines Ward, Stacey Kiebler who had ballet training like Chandler turned out one of the best Sambas in the history of the show. But the kicker is Brandon wanted Samba, which means they have tried something in rehearsal and he liked what he saw. Instead we get a faux match up against Danny with a social Salsa that he can easily get a high score because it doesn't have the needed technicality to differentiate between the contestants. Another free pass for a weak dancer instead of a real challenge. Effectively erasing a beloved dance from the line up because the majority of the remaining contestants can't do it is pathetic and production putting the thumb on the scale is off putting
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This show is now beyond ridiculous. Danny is being set up by production for a Win. That viral leg yank got the attention of Frosted Flakes and they put a picture of the Yank on a cereal box. Sorry Witney you have been replaced by Tony the Tiger's tail. Make of that what you will. Danny gets a pass from Rumba Cha Cha Samba any technical rhythmic Latin Ballroom in favour of a trick heavy social Salsa. This is the only guy who just got lifts both contemporary and jazz and an awkward jive and a backflip in a Foxtrot. No hip action required! Now I get why Reggie and Eric had to do a Cha Cha instead of a 40 year old who played hurt in the NFL but gets a pass for the extreme difficulty of moving his hips. Give me a break. I also get why instead of getting Samba that dance fans look forward to, they give him trick heavy Salsa, and they do Chandler and Brandon dirty by giving them Salsa as a comparison. This is utter bs. Instead of assessing dance ability we get Danny showing how high he can toss Witney. I also think it was advantageous for Danny that Dwight is gone because he's the only one who did better on his fork lift duties. So when Chandler gets the boot she will never had the opportunity to show us what she can do with the most challenging Latin dance -Samba because the show wants rotting teeth cereal money. In fact the show dismissed Samba almost exclusively which is such a huge loss to the dance line up. my prediction Chandler is eliminated and this horseshit is the reason why. I hope I'm not correct, but if I am when you know you know.
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And yet all those plates allowed him to do a flip in an early Foxtrot instead of learning proper technique. 🙄Danny is a cop out. Ty Murray had a shit load of surgeries from bull riding and James Hinchcliffe had a hunk of racing car metal inpaled in his pelvis so neither of them could do rhythmic dances well but they tried. This guy gets to duck them all because......????? Bone spurs?
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Then I just wouldn't bother because the calibre is far below any sort of enjoyment I get as a viewer. I can barely watch the other 5 because they are making the same mistakes over and over and not making a real effort to correct their technique. Len would have scolded them to get practising. I just find it rather tiresome but at least there's Chandler working her butt off to put out a good product, so I will watch for her until the big fanbases get rid of her so they can stop worrying about having black women in contention. I stopped watching after season 25 because I was not impressed with the show anymore, it ran its course and if you think talented Disney kids are annoying, I just cringe at the next Bachelor nation being cast and I gave up.. I came back Season 30 after watching the first episode with a dynamic pair who Len gave a 4 and I was hooked because he had insane rhythm to Hey Ya. I thought maybe a basketball player can win this. I watch for good dancing and someone who can wow me. The show has been holding back on giving Chandler a perfect score, I thought her first Cha Cha should have scored higher and her Paso Doble was worth more. You've got Carrie Ann all over the place with this team. Not giving feedback when Chandler pleaded with her to help her get better. Len would have been more consistent, but this show is so worried about offending the Olympics or the NFL or the Bachelor franchise that they are basically controlling the narrative now more than ever. We are now at the semi finals and Danny who hasn't danced much all season will get a Salsa so another lift heavy dance. He never got a Rumba or a Samba or a Cha Cha all season. That's not cricket. He should do at least one rhythmic dance. Stephen didn't get Rumba or Samba either but at least he's got Cha Cha this time to show if he can move his hips. Dibs on awkwardly. They gave Chandler a Salsa while okay but I really wanted to see her get Samba because I know it would be an excellent showcase for her skill, and apparently Brandon wanted Samba. It just sucks we had only one Samba from a Joey that needed a lot of improvement. The Final show is scheduled for 3 hours. Maybe they can fill it with the Redemption Dance, the Freestyle and how about a Samba Dance off for points? If it keeps Chandler around I'm all for it. We have been deprived of Samba this season.