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I’m glad the saga of Stephen Bonnet is over. Let’s clear the decks for the real action!
If they were trying to make him greyer in this episode by sharing his orphanhood, it was unsuccessful with me. They should have done that earlier. By the way, why do men like to dress women up before harming them? Is that a real thing or just a tv trope? You kidnapped me, but gave me this beautiful dress, so all is forgiven!
At the time, I was cringing when they didn’t kill him immediately. Our team never seems to learn lessons. Death by drowning seems a very James Bond Villain method...
I was ok with the end. I don’t think Roger was judging Brianna, but rather that he was genuinely curious.
The attempted murder of Jocasta shocked me. I was not accepting that. Yay, Ulysses! I was literally chanting his name as he came to the rescue. I was really worried that she would die and he would be accused of 2 murders.
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10 minutes ago, Alistaire said:
Anyone who still regards her as a heroine... may share more than a little of her personality disorder.Your analysis was interesting, but I found this part to be rather inappropriate.
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4 hours ago, RealReality said:
This. They are NEVER giving that blackbox to Carrie.
Isnt this how assets are recruited? First you're asked to just do something small, let's say....disable the system for two minutes so the Russian spy can do you a favor.
And so on and so forth, until Carrie is killing Saul for him.
Russians end up with a dead Saul and a turned US CIA agent with the identities of US assets. Once Carrie kills Saul why wouldn't they hold that over her head to get more information? It's what Carrie would do. And, throw in getting to sit on the sidelines while the US gets in a war with Pakistan.
There is a reason the last episode has as its title the name of the original series...and I think you just described it. Carrie turns into the monster she started the series trying to kill
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1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:
Carrie's attorney was a surprise. Pretty late in the game to bring in an actor of Chris Bauer's recognition just for a couple of scenes. Seems like a waste to me. But hey, True Blood reunion! Kinda.
Wait, who else was on True Blood? And I wonder if Chris Bauer is a fab and wanted a role before the show ended
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7 hours ago, surfer said:
And I guess Ben Savage is the go-to when shows need someone to play a young Mandy Patinkin. LOL. The dubbing was horrible though.
I thought the casting of Ben Savage as young Saul was inspired, but I did not realize it had happened before. They should have just let him speak, but perhaps he is not good with imitating voices.
I am actually pretty excited about how this will end. Will Saul sacrifice himself or will Carrie somehow do that? I have a hard time believing she will betray Saul, but I could be wrong. Their relationship represents her last connection to her humanity, since her child has been long forgotten.
My somewhat silly wishlist for finale:
Saul brings the English teacher to the US and they get married and live happily ever after.
Carrie is killed by Russians (a sacrifice for Saul and America)
Dana Brody, recently graduated from college, and gets hired as a CIA analyst . This could also work for Franny in time jump
Saul’s ex Mira turns out to be a Pakistani asset
A virus infects the world and makes all this spying moot
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1. Glad to see Fergus can still speak.
2. Very glad that someone remembered that Fergus lost a hand and has been very courageous about it. Someone should have mentioned that last week, along with his rape, but this is acceptable. Would have liked to see interaction between Jamie and Fergus, though.
3. Glad to see Jamie’s disdain for Roger appears to be finished.
4. I think this episode would have worked more for me if I believed for a second they would kill Jamie or make him lose a leg
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I enjoyed the show but found Stella insufferable. Forcing your husband to go into business with your lazy, drug dealer brother? Thinking you can support your family as a barista? This is not a knock on Lucy Hale, who was luminous and charming, as usual. I do think that the arrested development of Lucy due to her illness was to blame. And how can anyone possibly be attracted to Dr Grant, when he’s the type of man to insistently hit on a married woman? Diego and Peter were my faves, followed by Wes.
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I hope we get to see what became of the Brody family.
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47 minutes ago, BitterApple said:
Are we going to talk about how Jemmy is aging in dog years? Marsali is still pregnant but he's running and talking? Next episode he'll be married with kids.
I think that this is Marsali’s third pregnancy. We previously saw her second pregnancy
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17 minutes ago, Alistaire said:
I think this show is very much invested in talking out of both sides of its mouth. Do they want us to admire or hate the CIA? The answer is, They want both. And that's not fair. In fact, it's nuts.
I actually think it makes perfect sense to be conflicted about the CIA. Very rarely are institutions (or people) all good or all bad.
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I thought that this episode was well done. I literally cried during the suicide bombing sequence—very well directed IMO.
Glad to finally understand Yevgeny’s interest in Carrie—she is the only person on the planet to whom Saul would possibly reveal his source. Even if they captured Saul himself, he would probably withstand the torture and die before revealing his source. Carrie, however, is his weak link, and has been proven to be torturable. (I know that’s not a word)
I am assuming that the man to whom Saul was speaking is his mole.
Jenna is the worst and was clearly meeting the exchange to prevent a comment on record that might lead back to her. She really needs to have a heroic death to rehabilitate her character.
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Book readers, I am annoyed by the fact that Fergus has barely said a word in season 5 and has had no plot development for a couple of seasons. Does he do anything in the books? No need to go into a lot of detail, but I am trying to decide if I want to continue the watching and this particular issue is really annoying me. I am wondering if the reason is that he is not actually in Book 5.
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On 3/14/2020 at 9:04 PM, Jammy said:
Why does claire forgive Jamie in 2x07 Faith?
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When Claire is telling Jamie about her experiences during and after the birth of Faith, Claire describes the baby and how it was taken away from her for burial. She states 'yes I did hated you' then proceeds on blaming no one else but herself for the death of her child and Jamie says that he forgives her. But I honestly dont blame Claire for all of it. Jamie made a promise and broke it how was it Claire's fault the death of their child?
Not Claire’s fault in my opinion but perhaps it refers to taking risks during her pregnancy and not listening to Jamie when he asked her to be more cautious
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I hated the silent picture device!
I hate the way they are treating Fergus. I actually might not continue to next season because of it. Why not just kill him if they won’t give him any lines? It’s even worse now that Ian is back. They could have easily had him say something at dinner . Plus his history of having been raped and had his hand cut off would have been useful in this discussion of trauma. I am actually quite annoyed by this situation.
Sophie Skelton has a lovely voice. is this the first time we’ve heard her sing?
Nice to see Ian. I am guessing he witnessed some sort of massacre by his Mohawk family.
Kinda tactless of Marsali to continue tarot after getting the hanged man.
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1 hour ago, dwmarch said:
I am sure there was more wood involved than just the birch trees.
I am going to steal this phrase and find a way to use it in a casual conversation.
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7 hours ago, Alistaire said:
I do wish early commenters wouldn’t give away the plot.
Anyway, Jenna became interesting. Maybe Yevgeny has other surprises in store. The last scene was not necessary (not spoiling here). He could have dealt with the consequences in other ways.
I am curious—do you come here before watching the show? If so, why?
Meh episode. I was mainly wondering if those ladies in burkas were somehow protected from COVID 19 by their veils.
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Late to the party with this show but glad someone good came from COVID-19.
Love this show, especially Janet and Gill. I appreciate Janet’s interview methods and I think I can apply them in my own work. I hated how she repeatedly gave up chances for promotion, but that is very realistic unfortunately. I appreciate how Gill did not hesitate to hold people accountable, but was also genuinely interested in them.
Rachel is insufferable IMO, and I think Nick was right about her drinking and hygiene. However, she does have a charm about her too, mostly from her competence. She is dreadfully immature, though, and I laughed at her outrage at the ribbing she received as a new Sergeant. She wasn’t exactly respectful to Rob when he joined the team. She did get a personality transplant before season 5, so that was helpful.speaking of Rob, I wish they had developed him more. I do think the show portrays almost all men and idiots or jerks, and Rob and Sean were few exceptions. I liked Andy was disappointed when he went south. He and Janet had great chemistry, which isn’t always true with real-life couples. It is realistic though that some men refuse to take no for an answer, and allow it to interfere with professional relationships. I would have liked to see Kevin mature in his personality and some of the others in their capability, even if the leads remained the strongest detectives.
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6 hours ago, HerkyJerky said:
Just curious, who was that on what show?
In spoilers in case other people watch it
SpoilerMax on Homeland
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1 hour ago, Utpe said:
I was half-expecting Haissam Haqqani to stand up for the third time in a row. The guy can sure take several bullets to the chest and abdomen.
I was actually reminded of Will Ferrell’s character in the Austin Powers movie in which he has to be “killed” multiple times and suffers an agonizing death
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Birthday scene and subsequent shirtless Jamie felt gratuitous...and underlined the fact that Sam looks too young.
Of course, Roger is not dead. Bet that Morag’s husband or one of his cronies stole his nice coat. But I found the episode title to be too ironic for my taste, given that they kept Roger out of the battle.
RIP Murtagh. I am glad we had you for as long as we did. This will be the trigger for Jamie and Claire to lead the American Revolution. They will be the new George and Martha Washington.
I guess we knew this was coming after scene with Jocasta, but he’s my second fave character to die today (referring to another show) so I am a little sad.Glad Bree brought up the potential impact to America if the Regulators succeed. Also, since Sophie gets bashed quite regularly on this forum, I am going to go on record as saying I like her In this role.
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Just watched On Demand with Verizon.
How does the president not know that Max is CIA embedded with the troop deployed to get to Warner’s crash site? Just an adventurer? That was a fail on Saul’s part if he didn’t let president know about that much. I get not letting him know about the black box until they had it.
RIP, Max, you deserved better than this world gave you. I did appreciate Carrie’s recognition of her selfishness. I bet she couldn’t say a single personal thing about Max— she only knows what he did for her.
So Jalal’s only taking credit for the attack? Interesting...
I was hoping for Carrie and Saul against the world, but I guess that is not happening.
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On 3/22/2020 at 4:32 PM, preeya said:
I think (pure speculation) they didn't get the memo at the time of the encounter.
I think more likely they are Jalal’s peeps. However, Jalal’s question for Max about who shot down the plane surprised me. Does he really not know?
On 3/22/2020 at 5:03 PM, scrb said:Eventually Carrie will save the day and become vindicated right? Because right now she's suppose to turn herself in to the FBI.
Tasneem says she's for peace now. She was pouting when it seemed like there was a big peace deal coming.
To prove how much she's for peace, she shows the judge the attempted assassination of Haqqani that she had ordered.
WTF?
She was smirking and taunting Saul and Carrie when they first encountered her but now she wants to back Saul.
Isn't she the one who picked up Jalal, who may be the one leading this insurrection?
Doesn't matter in this world a 2-bit Afghan general is calling all the shots after he gaslit the US president in like 2 minutes.
Tasneem always wanted peace but resented being left out of the process.
On 3/23/2020 at 9:12 AM, Pallas said:Kate Burton as President Warner's widow Doris: it seems unlikely she was brought on for a one-scene, two-line cameo. Unless she has a strong connection to the show or its producers, and wanted to appear.
The only problem is that now I am confusing her previous plot lines from Scandal with Homeland! 🤣 I’m not even joking.
On 3/27/2020 at 12:33 AM, Ursula Parrott said:What body? They’re pretending there’s a corpse for the optics?
I think it’s not super unusual to have a funeral with an empty casket if the body is irretrievable (e.g., drowning) since it’s more for the grieving folks anyway.
I do like that the new Prez called out David Wellington. Finally showing backbone.
I am kind of hoping Carrie sacrifices herself for Max or Saul. Just did a rewatch of S1E1 and she was kind of a jerk to them.
I like the idea of Hugh Dancy being on his wife’s show for the final few episodes.
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8 hours ago, ferjy said:
Very emotional scene with Murtagh and Jocasta and superb acting from Maria Doyle Kennedy. It was interest seeing some of Jocasta’s backstory.
Back to rutting from Jamie and Claire. Sorry, I’d rather see more of the healing (and I really dislike Caitriona Balfe’s angry face 😛 ).
Nice to see Lord John Grey, if only briefly.
I don’t know the actor playing Wylie, but he was brilliantly smarmy. I kinda wanted to see more of him!
Not enough scenes with Fergus and Marsali. They need to write in some lengthy dialogue for Fergus. He’s being resigned to giving us short side (though appreciably smouldering) glances. We need to see more of this gorgeous man. And I like the character. Young Romann Berrux played him so well, but we’ve barely been given a chance to see César Domboy use his acting chops. I hope they expand his role eventually.
Agree with everything you said.
Gods of casting, can you please give Maria Doyle Kennedy a role where she gets to be happy? Catherine of Aragon, Mrs. Bates, Jocasta...all suffering and unhappy. But I wept during her monologue. And the death of Morna was terribly tragic too. (She mentioned that her daughters died in a fire. To what was she referring?) She is truly an underrated actress.
Sex scene of Jamie Claire was tedious, not hot at all. I actually could live without sex scenes in the show, though I enjoyed season 1 a lot. The issue between them seemed contrived.
Glad Roger got a win! And he shared credit. Sweet!
My dream ending is if they somehow pass Bonnet off as Murtagh and get him executed and Murtagh gets to come out of hiding.
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On 3/15/2020 at 8:41 AM, ElectricBoogaloo said:
Oh, Jenna. I knew Carrie wasn't actually just going to quietly acquiesce and fly back to Berlin. I laughed so hard when she cut a hard right on the jetway and ran off.
Ben sucks. The look on David's face as G'ulom started lulling Ben over to his line of logic was the perfect combination of "is he really falling for his?" and "we're fucked."
How has Jenna not been fired? Unless the station chief Mike is a double agent who deliberately placed his least competent person on Carrie so Yevgeny can do his job. But why put the person who JUST LOST Carrie on the job to escort her out of town? Unless you secretly want Carrie to remain active...
I don’t know if Ben was fooled; rather G’ulom was voicing what Ben wanted to do all along...so it made it easy for him to ignore his (or rather the previous POTUS’s) peeps.
On 3/15/2020 at 10:18 PM, TVbitch said:Um....
Carrie, Carrie, Carrie.... it's always been your way or rogue. I was so proud of Saul taking a hard stand against her, but then, seriously, they have the girl who couldn't even keep tabs on Carrie inside the building escort her to the plane. ?!
I was proud of Saul too.
On 3/16/2020 at 9:12 AM, Msample said:Earlier this season there was speculation Jenna was a double agent. If so, she may be the most incompetent one ever.
Unless her job is to let Carrie remain at play...
So here is my theory but I will put it in spoiler tags so that my speculation can be ignored
SpoilerThe last episode is entitled Prisoners of war, which is the name of the original Israeli series on which Homeland is based. My theory is that Carrie returns to US a heroine for saving the world from war. However, she is really a double agent for Russia. Jenna is the only one who doesn’t trust her, and is therefore the new Carrie.
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S08.E11: The English Teacher
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Love ❤️ both of these ideas. You need to be stunt writer who parachutes in to fix lame plot lines!