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Wait, she writes out exclamation mark, but ends the actual sentence with a period. I clearly did not home school to the lofty levels of the Rods because I'm confused. Interrobang ‽

I think that's a level of evidence that you're unlikely to find. The context of the article seems to have been during the rise of the "Lost Cause" narrative which means it's not unlikely that a newspaper would be purposefully seeking out positive recollections of the period. Does that mean this formerly enslaved person was lying? Not at all. 60 years is a long time, as you said. That's long enough that rose-coloured glasses can get pretty thick. She might also have been aware that saying good things about her benefactor's ancestors was very much to her benefit and edited her recollections accordingly. It could also be that she was lucky and her experiences were just a huge exception to the way most enslaved people were treated by their enslavers. Why is it a problem to allow exceptions to hold equal weight with all of the narratives that do portray the antebellum period as one of extreme cruelty purely for the economic benefit of a relatively small number of people? Because while many people can see that the above analysis can still be true despite a small number of narratives from people who have a different, more positive, interpretation of their experiences, many hold up such narratives as "proof" that things were "not that bad" and a certain group "needs to get over it." I don't blame Dr Gates at all for presenting an interpretation that doesn't feed into the increasingly loud voices of the people who feel that way.

I have heard that he's very nice and I do enjoy his voice, he just wasn't on my list of celebrities I would enjoy seeing shirtless! That being said, even before I stumbled on that YouTube clip, he still would have ranked well above breakout star Jeremy.

Okay, I've travelled in an rv, it's basically one long hallway and the walls aren't (usually) well insulated. The tricky bit is having a conversation and not having everyone else overhear you. If you raise your voice slightly or leave a window open you can be heard outside just as easily. That Jill needed a bell is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard, and this is Jill, so the ridiculous bar is pretty dang high.

Leah was miserable and God gave her lots of babies (7) to cheer her up, so very quiverful. Rachel was infertile for a long time, but ended up with two sons who, of course, were Jacob's favourites. Leah's kids were pretty pissed by that and ended up selling their brother, Joseph, into slavery in Egypt as revenge. There was a happy ending for Joseph, though. He went on to star in Andrew Lloyd Webber's Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dream Coat! (Google "Close Every Door to Me" and you can see a shirtless Donny Osmond, which was way less disturbing than I would have thought, but I'm not posting it because we've already depleted the world supply of brain bleach!).

Poor kid probably heard a lot of Rod caterwauling in-utero. He may not know good music if it pinched his cute little cheek.

Aw, thanks! And you've uncovered my secret identity (not Bible teaching, but I am a teacher).

The way that people can talk out of both sides of their mouths without seeming aware of it will never cease to amaze me. Jill would have had the chance to take grinning selfies in front of both her mother and grandson's coffins in the past year if not for medical intervention and she makes major bank (or so she claims) selling a drink that's a colour that does not exist in nature, but Nurie (oh, and Kaylee) breast feeding is sooo much better/natural than you heathen, working, formula-using, sluttish women. If natural is so important, BME, wash your face, put the phone down, plant an actual food garden in your plant graveyard, ditch the plexus and, as always, feed your damn kids. Disclaimer: Not judging make-up use or any lack of gardening skills, just love calling Jill out on the hypocrisy.

My nice side wants to believe that the pastor's wife saw a young woman who's a bit of a lost soul and is trying to help. My cynical side says that Carlin ain't the only fundie mom who has a bad case of arrested development. Just because her new friend is 40, doesn't mean she's more mature.

You know, I do feel a little but sad for Carlin. So many of the things she's getting criticized for (indiscriminate spending, needing to have fun all. the. time., not having her priorities in the right place, ignoring things that could impact her health unless she gets attention from it) would be pretty normal if she wasn't the mom of 2 with a job (allegedly) and a mortgage. I think alternate-universe Carlin, newly graduated from college, in her first entry level job, single or living in a tiny apartment with Evan, would be a lot happier.

Hey, there's biblical precedent. Leah and Rachel did it! For those who don't want to Google, Jacob was a guy who was in love with Rachel. Her dad said she could marry him if Jacob worked for him for 7 years. Jacob does, but the dad pulls a switcheroo on the wedding night and J. ends up married to Rachel's older sister, Leah. Once J. agrees to do another seven years of work, the dad lets him marry Rachel too (Woot! bigamy! So wholesome!). Jacob and Rachel were the parents of Joseph with the fancy coat. Jacob and Leah were the parents of all his meanie brothers.

If Anna is fighting with JB, I think it's likely one of 2 possibilities, 1- JB realizes that if he's going to be the father of a Golden Boy, he's going to have to lie low and cut off public support for FF. Everything the Duggars do, especially since the trial and the doc, is being seen through the lens of "The family that raised the perv" which means Jed! will be in the used car business forever unless JB can somehow change the narrative (I doubt he can since Jed! is such a little twerp, but that's another story). If Anna is one of the last True Believers in Josh-u-a's persecution, that would royally piss her off. 2- The opposite, Anna has finally realized what life is like as a single mom (the horror!) with a large family. She wants to cut ties but JB won't let her. With everything we've heard, I'd say 1 is more likely than 2. I also agree with Gee Golly, though, getting Anna out of the TTH and off to Texas is probably an option that works well for Anna and JB.

I think it does depend a bit. Darlene a few weeks ago could be really aggressive (yelling at just about everybody) but she struck me more as incredibly exhausting, needy and demanding rather than nasty like Marjory.

It's the hypocrisy of the system. By this point in andKaylee's life Jill should be just a model of godly motherhood for her perfectly trained daughters... and if you believe that I have a lovely palace in central London up for sale. That's why I'm so reluctant to let Jill, Michelle, Kelly and the rest off the hook. There's no way that guys like DBD, JB etc have the wherewithal to control that many people without 100% buy in from their allegedly submissive wives (especially if said wives get to be the power behind the godly throne).

Praise his soapy name!

All I can say is Free Irv! Not only is the house physically impossible for a person with Parkinson's, there's no possible way that the empress of Passive Aggressivia is going to be able to bring the kind of patience and kindness you need to care for someone with a neuro-digenerative illness. Thank you

I think she must be, it could be the editing, but Dr T came In much harder than usual and now seems to have disappeared (after Marjorie accused him of being insecure, to quote M. herself "Oh, Honey"). The always used salad bowl/dog bowl with the packing slip still inside was pretty spectacular, though.

Aww, there's a reason that Dr Tolin's my favourite (besides his blue eyes). OMG the jello salad.

She's blaming it on the job loss (but I went to wipe down the counters and might have missed something). Another one of the "I am a super generous person who is collecting my hoard for the good of others" type hoarders. Sigh, refugees want better than your icky hoard staff, Marjorie.

Catching up on Darlene and not sure if I'm going to make it through to the end. I tend to classify Hoarders less by the size and ick of the hoard and more by how they act. There's the mean (sadly, the biggest category), the overwhelmed (their life has legit been awful and although there is some pushback, you can't help feeling for them) and the nuttier than a fruitcake (that would be Darlene). Maybe a big reveal is coming, but I can't help feeling like there's something more than the Hoarding and cPTSD going on. The high speed talking is...a lot...

Tell me when he gets to the Song of Solomon and I will bring the popcorn.

Jill doesn't seem to give the boys much attention at all other than occasional praise for their (ugh) academics (algebra-math) and preaching ambitions. I think the waifs came because a. there is a legit lack of chicken legs, especially when DBD "dips up" first so they were scruffier and waifier anyway and b. Jill the grifter realized there were richer pickings when you pull up with a rv full of extras from a Dickens movie than when you show up with a very pathetic version of the VonTraps.

One interesting thing about this is that the Duggars and close-to Duggars have done a much better job of disguising their attitudes towards racism than, say, the Bateses. I've always inferred that they are, because that's the circles they run in, but in the TLC days they managed plausible deniability. I'm almost glad the ugly is showing now.

Ooh, someone got wind of the rumours of the falling out with Joy Baptist. Hi there, Jill! (Mathew 7: 1 and Matthew 6:5)

Uhh, Mr Keller, Frederick Douglas and Harriet Tubman (among many, many others) want a word with you...