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Becky slipped using the same alliance name with ADC as with Shelli/Clay/Vanessa (The Generals). There was no way Vanessa knew that and adding the fact that James realizes that Shelli will never let the Clay thing go - due to shirtgate - is what may ultimately save Vanessa for now. Shelli is also acting way too comfortable for being on the block. At least ADC realized that Shelli, John and Becky are potentially a group. Who knows though, it's a long way to Thursday and can change again. Thinking about it, Shelli and Clay both blew up their game over people not cheering for Clay when he won POV the week Jason was evicted and now a shirt. If Shelli gets evicted over these petty things I will laugh for days.

I'm a Vanessa fan and agree that Becky got her. I can't give her props though because it feels way more personal than a game move. I think James is already doubting Becky, out of ADC he can at least separate the emotions out of his game. One of the problems with Vanessa's alliance is no one stepped up to help her, she did most of the heavy lifting and Shelli and Clay were too busy working the middle. Once BOB ended, Vanessa should have stopped trying to appease everyone and pulled back. Social gaming worked for BOB since you have to work with another HOH but once the game reset she needed to regroup. Didn't help they had two endurance comps in a row and her alliance sucked at the comps. ETA: Austin and the twins are going to be in deep trouble with out Vanessa because she was truly loyal to them. Shelli and Steve are already exploring other options.

I think Vanessa was too loyal to her alliance to the detriment of her game. Austin first screwed Vanessa when he threw the veto competition to John and forced Vanessa to come up with a "reason" to nominate Jeff in first HOH. He did it for purely selfish reasons (Liz liked Jeff) and that was the first strike against her. Her alliance hasn't really done as much for her in return. Austin throw's HOH comps, Shelli and Clay never really gave her that same level of trust she gave them and Steve tried to blend into the background. To the outsiders it looks like Vanessa is an erratic flip-flopper floater, but she's been loyal to her allies. She went too far trying to save Shelli last week and that's going to bite her. I feel bad for Vanessa that her friends are going to let her be blindsided. A lot can happen in the big brother house, it's a long road to Thursday but if Becky or John make F2 I would sorely be disappointed in this season.

If Becky wants Vanessa out so badly she should just put up Vanessa and Shelli and take the chance with the veto. Either way you get one of them out. I don't know why Becky spilled her entire plan to Shelli, guess we'll see what happens there. The 6S has really had a bad streak - end of BOB and two endurance comps. Austin is so freaking useless, I will never be convinced he didn't throw that comp, they should have just let him be go when they had the chance. At least the summer camp crew are awake now and starting to play the game. There are so many things that can go wrong with Becky's plan. At least it'll be another intense week on the feeds.

Also to throw it out there, the DR from Steve a couple weeks ago regarding Becky was not out of left field. There is legitimate reason behind his dislike for her that if you didn't watch the feeds wouldn't get.

If Audrey hadn't spilled about the 6S the ADC would still be mostly clueless. It's week 6, why do they expect loyalty from people they never built relationships with? Austin needs to wake up because Becky and John are probably joing the ADC and it is going to be a split house no matter who they vote to keep. If it were me, I'd rather have a player like Shelli on my side who has shown game smarts and can win comps because now the 6S has no choice but to win each week. Austin is foolish to think once the ADC use him they are not going to put his behind on the block or vote out his precious Liz so he wants to leave too.

I do have to say, despite my dislike of seeing Austin on the feeds I am enjoying this season. It has it's flaws, but I'm entertained. Wouldn't mind the twins being behind getting Austin out in the Double Eviction.

Austin is being so dumb. It's frustrating to watch his stupidity. I wish the plan to get rid of him last week would have worked. I don't blame Vanessa for pushing so hard to keep Shelli. None of these other people are gamers. Vanessa will likely be the next to be evicted since her own alliance is talking about throwing HOH's when she's target #1.

Honestly, once Clay is out of the picture I don't see why Vanessa wouldn't want to go F2 with Shelli. If they can get out one of the other side this week, the majority of the jury would be full of Vanessa's people. Shelli has been tarnished to all these people. I think once Clay is gone, Shelli will be focused and she will win comps more than any of the others in the alliance. In fact I would not be surprised if it ended up as Vanessa/Shelli/Steve final 3 if they have luck and strategy on their side. I think the timing of when they win HOH will be a huge factor and Vanessa would need to win the final HOH as I think Shelli and Steve will know they can't beat Vanessa if it came to that.

I think it's headed for Vanessa vs.Shelli finale but I think they have actually played the game and it's too soon for it. The rest of the floaters and summer campers have played zero game and only just realized this week they were in the minority in the house. I would much prefer the non-players get booted first.

Vanessa gave Clelli a strategy of throwing Becky UTB who was not in the alliance. This has shown that neither are trustworthy and they still tried to ride the middle even up the veto ceremony. They chose John and Becky over their alliance, let whoever stays make a new alliance with them and see how far they get. This is going to get very interesting seeing how this all unfolds. That being said, they are better off voting out Clay because he already has factions salivating over who's going to scoop him up.

Shelli and Clay by refusing to do what Vanessa told them (throwing Becky OTB) just outed their entire alliance and put a giant target on Vanessa's back essentially blowing up her game. They sold out their alliance and Vanessa is pissed. The hours leading up to this veto ceremony is going to be intense.

James is waiting for them throw out Vanessa's name.

Why won't they throw Becky UTB! She's not in your alliance. Stop trying to ride middle, that is done for them. If Clelli survive 6S is still intact and in the majority and will likely win HOH next week. It's very clear to me that these two can't strategize properly.

Shelli was going to spill about the 6S but then realized she'd be killing the game of whoever was left behind of Clelli. I think Vanessa knows she has to appear to be trying her best to save Clelli because it's a precarious line for her, she knows they are not truly loyal to her anymore. Vanessa has suggested alternatives to them to get James to use the veto but it involves throwing Becky or John UTB and they refuse to do it. I think Vanessa knows she has to get Clay out. Shelli would be infinitely better for her game because at least Shelli has milliseconds of self awareness after she's been away from Clay's orbit. ETA: Finally James figured out that 6S is a real thing and Shelli and Clay won't spill. I think if they break and name Vanessa that is their only save.

I don't get how Liz tolerates Austin. He's always so clingy. He always has his paws on her like she's going to disappear. They are locked in a house for the summer cut off from society and he still he follows her around the house and never leaves her alone. It would drive me absolutely insane. Even if she was madly in love with him (which she's not) its too much! I can't even watch the feeds when they are the focus.

James gave up 5K for the veto. No matter what Shelli and Clay say he's not going to budge. His target may be Shelli but his end goal is to get one of them out. He's not Meg/Becky who are angling to keep Clay. They still don't get how their betrayal was the worst to the ADC crew.

I think this vote will the tipping point. If F&G vote to keep Shelli then Vanessa still has a hold over her alliance and can go far. If they vote out Shelli, Vanessa is in a tough spot and may be in danger during the Double Eviction.

I wonder if these people still think Vanessa is not in alliance. It's mind boggling to me. Meg just told the HOH room about Clelli's awesome plan to back door Steve...Vanessa immediately threw in, James gave up 5K and trip to win Veto. James said he's not using it no matter what.

The smart thing to me would be to keep noms the same and get rid of Clay. Except everyone has their own agenda so who even knows. I do believe, if Shelli stays and Clay goes that is the best for Vanessa's game. Shelli and Vanessa teamed up is a powerful twosome, they balance each other out. Shelli would be focused on the game and they work well together. A Shelli and Vanessa F2 would be ok with me. They've both played hard and did the work.

Oy these pawns not thinking 2 moves ahead like they should be. Becky is playing with fire right now.

Becky throwing Vanessa UTB to Shelli and Clay. Vanessa trying to save them by getting Becky on the block. This week is entertaining. ETA: I hope Shelli and Clay mess up and turn Vanessa against them again. The worst thing that will happen is James will put Vanessa on the block when she should not have stuck her neck out. Shelli and Clay are still delusional they shouldn't have been blamed for Jason getting evicted.

This week is going to be so entertaining. I actually liked Vanessa's and Shelli's talk. Vanessa always has the ability to talk Shelli down from the ledge. Shelli winning no sympathy saying that you shouldn't evict couples before jury to Jackie. She is too much. Meg and Jackie determined to send Shelli out over Clay. ETA: Shelli would have such a better game without Clay. Ditch the boytoy and play for 500K. I can't wait to watch the show on Sunday. That ceremony is going to so good.

I'm wondering if Vanessa dropped a seed about not respecting rats in the game when talking to Meg earlier. I think she may have did this ahead of Shelli or Clay throwing possibly Johnny or Becky UTB and as well as themselves to get the rat label. Keep a moving target in the house everyone can get behind.

Meg and James laid out the reason they blame Shay and Shelli the most and are not mad at Vanessa. It's a very valid reason, Vanessa never pretended to be their friend and be in alliance with them. Dark Moon doesn't really count. Meg understand why she was loyal to Austin over Jason. Meg said it's not about who said put up Jason. It's that Shelli and Clay voted him out in the first place then lied.